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Eff off everyone and everything *sorry long rant*

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smileandactnice · 09/01/2022 19:26

Unless you're also going through this and if you are, of course don't eff off, grab a cuppa and something tasty and have a massive-arse rant too. There is no one else I can talk to or tell my true feelings to. I tell my husband some things but you will see from the ensuing purge, much of it is unsuitable for his or anyone close to me's ears. This post contains very long detailed ranting and should be avoided if you are sensitive to ranting in general.

I hate everyone. I hate everything. I'm going to be 45 soon and I'm counting down the days when I can book a birthday appointment on that magical day and be able to ask for HRT without being told to go away with a script for anti depressants - HAHA. I'm dreading it, because I have a feeling that I'm going to have to argue and I'm feeling extremely stabby so we'll see how that goes. Maybe the stupid female docs at the surgery I have the misfortune to be at, will see the murderous look in my eye and will actually follow the NICE guidlines I quote. Maybe not - ultimately only they can choose their destiny.

I've been feeling wonky since I was 37. I've been told I have subclinical hypothyroidism/Hashimotos - my TSH is always between 5 and 7 but not over 10, which would trigger medication by NHS standards. My free T4 is always on the low end but not out of range so far. My antibodies are always consistently high. I have 6 monthly blood tests and have been told that's all they can do for now. Incidentally my FSH has been elevated and elevating for a year now, my periods are very erratic with bouts of heavy bleeding which they gave me Norethisterone 30mg on occasion, feeling hot in the day, very bloated stomach, tiredness and some nightsweats, but still not enough to convince GPs to consider that I might not actually just be mental - I might also be SHOCK perimenopausal.

I had my children at 18 and 22, was a SAHM with a very low income husband. I also had suffered with PTSD and chronic social anxiety from past partner abuse, so took on all the household duties and house admin and childcare. That was my choice because I didn't know any better and didn't think I could do any better with my MH. Husband was nice but drippy and didn't have as much ambition as me. We found out later that he had ADD which really affected his confidence.

I had to do everything, all the organising, all the everything while he worked and didn't have to think about anything or worry about anything. All the thinking and worrying was down to me. He is a minimal converser. Talking with him is painful at times. Redeeming qualities to him is that he was faithful and we had good sex, but it was infrequent and always initiated by me. Later he admitted to wanking alot when he could have been shagging me but apparently I was too stressed when the kids were small. I might have been less stressed if I'd have had more support from him and more shagging but hey-ho, can't change the past now can we? There is so much water under the bridge in this marriage I can't even get into it on here, it would fill the whole effing internet.

To say I felt trapped many times and frustrated would be an understatement. However, I love my daughters and made sure I was there for them, cared for them, always have their back no matter what and still do now.

After the lockdowns I never felt more trapped and depressed in my life and when my youngest moved away for work (to the same area as my eldest who had gone there for Uni and stayed), it just hammered home how much of my identity was a Mum and nothing else. It hammered home how much of a failure as a person I am . No income of my own, no 'real' career. It hammered home that I am stuck with a bellend, who - I might add - had THE AUDACITY to also 'decide' he was going to have fucking performance anxiety erectile dyfunction from February 2020 ongoing.
Just when the only thing that made me happy and took my mind off existential crises and thoughts of impending doom, becoming older and worrying about death - was sexy time. It's like he thought, 'Oh she's not happy, I know what'll fucking tip her over the edge completely - I'll give her my LIMP DICK and my poor-man hurt feelings and shitty shouting at her and punching holes in doors to deal with too.'

Of course I'm being harsh. He's not abusive is he? I mean he only shouts in my face when his dick is limp, so he can't be a totally bad person can he? His father died the year before the pandemic. After he died, my husband had an increased interest in sex briefly but then fell off a sex cliff and didn't go near me for ages. It felt like I'd lost my husband too and he was perpetually worried about his mother and felt like he had to keep going to see if she was alright. I get it, but she has a daughter too. Living further away, presumably his sister was allowed to grieve without having her marriage completely taken over, who knows?

And then all of a sudden he acted like he was alright. Sex returned, we started to heal abit and started connecting sexually on a better level than we had ever connected before. To be honest it was the best sex of my life.

AND THEN THE PANDEMIC HIT and he worked in food retail so had to cope with the new restrictions and extra strains that entailed - it wasn't pleasant at all is an understatement.

I get it. I do. But I am SICK OF IT. In this time, I have lost my daughters (empty nest), my identity, my sexlife, my husband. My sanity. I've lost my ability to not scream into my pillow multiple times a week. The only things I've gained is weight and depression. And a fervant hate for everyone and everything.

The mother in law has started knocking on the door unannounced, husband has not told her this is inappropriate, because, well he's a fucking drip. We are TRYING to save our marriage but it feels hopeless and since the kids have left home, both his mother and my parents think we should be over it and available to them now. They are elderly but all have given me shit over the years. The only parent I will be upset when they die is my Mum, but she's prioritised my overbearing bully know-it-all shithead father over me, but still I am not a total monster, I will miss her. And I will grieve the lovely mother/daughter relationship HE never let us have.

See I worry about all this too. I'm terrified of being trapped further with elderly caring duties with people who didn't have to do any of that themselves back when they were my age. The last thing I need in the middle of a marriage crisis and let's face in midlife shithole crisis, is a needy mother in law or troublesome sick parents.
And if my mother in law and sister in law turn up at my house unannounced again (was actually trying to have some romantic rekindling with said hubby with viagra and sexy playsuit at the time), I think I will be arrested for a crime I cannot be wholly responsible for. She doesn't know it yet but I've gone NC with her. Blocked her everywhere I can. Won't answer the door to her. I can't bear to hear her whiney annoying voice right now.

I'm anxious and worry endlessly that my husband is going to die of some terrible illness. Even though he's a dipshit, I love him and therefore am worrying incessantly and am convinced his mother putting extra strain on him is going to make him have a heart attack.

I cry alot too. Whole hours are wasted sobbing or masturbating and sometimes crying and masturbating because I can't have decent sex with someone who fucking wants the fucking sex with me. Inbetween that I'm making creative work I hate. And I literally see no one. Except for the postman and ladies who run charity shops and my youngest every fortnight or so, my eldest - hmmm when she feels like it. However I am grateful for all these people. I don't hate these ones. They are my lifeline.

Now I've realised that I'm in the grip of the 'sex-surge' which I am not allowed to enjoy because of husband's insecurities which I'VE TRIED TO BE NICE AND PATIENT ABOUT but I am too tired to care about his problem anymore. Now said husband really only fancies 'it' when porn is on or I'm trussed up to the nines in the filthiest outfits. I'm tired. What's wrong with nice cuddly sex that doesn't NEED a pill, or this sham shit-show of a porn routine I'm trying to emulate just to get him 'into' it? Of course he says he never watches it without me. Of COURSE he says he never wanks. Of course he says he fancies me and doesn't want younger women. COURSE YOU DON'T MATE.

I just want the connected sex we started having. I just want an identity. I just want to not want to feel like either killing myself or running away and never coming back.

I'd give my right hand, well, maybe not my right hand...my high teeth to meet a nice understanding woman who will cuddle me and tell me it's alright and maybe - have some 'fun' with as well. OFFICIAL BISEXUAL ALERT. I feel so utterly lonely.

I would LTB but I'm not in a financial position to. Trying to move to a cheaper place and get more work in self employed for myself, but that takes time. I know I'm wingeing, I just have no one to talk to in real life.

I think that's the gist of it. How are you doing? And I'm really very sorry if this has depressed or angered or triggered anyone in anyway, it's just a shitshow I know. But thank you for letting me vent and having the patience to read or even comment. I'm scared I'll get flamed but I'll assume the flamer is not perimenopausal, or had one of those 'breezy' menopauses where she just fanny-farted and the whole thing was done with, or that they're a bloke.

Maybe I should print this out for my doctor when I go on my 45th birthday, but I'm going to have to just stick to mentioning the nightsweats, wonky periods and vaguely mention being 'moody' I expect.

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thatsnotabadger · 09/01/2022 19:37

I don't have any advice for you about the menopause but I couldn't read this and say nothing. It sounds like you have spent lots of your life giving your all to others, and that you're not getting much back in return. I know how frustrating that feels. Take care and be kind to yourself.

smileandactnice · 09/01/2022 19:38

thankyou for answering so quickly, I really appreciate it . Yes I can see that xxx

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Usernameucreate · 09/01/2022 19:41

Hi. I think it is good for you to write it all down. I don’t have any advice. However, I am 46, and my P.M.D.D. has really escalated recently. I felt like I was losing the plot this week. Crying, anxiety, suicidal thoughts ( wouldn’t act on them ). I tried HRT but didn’t feel it had much effect ( other than making the area around my eyes swell ). I think I will have to go back to the Dr.’s for another consultation.

Usernameucreate · 09/01/2022 19:43

I mean to give HRT another go

bluejelly · 09/01/2022 19:43

I've been on antidepressants and HRT. Both have been immensely helpful at different times in my life. My advice is not to rule out ADs. They could really help. As could counselling. Definitely speak to your doctor.

bluejelly · 09/01/2022 19:45

NB one thing that stood out to me from your post - the fact that your DH punches doors. That's really not OK. No wonder you feel stressed and trapped. It's abusive.

Usernameucreate · 09/01/2022 19:48

Also - official bisexual alert from me too. Grin

smileandactnice · 09/01/2022 19:52

@Usernameucreate - :D haha shoutouts for the bi alerts :D thankyou I hope trying HRT again will help you, I can't wait to try something - anything actually, so yes I won't be ruling out anti-d's @bluejelly :) and yes I know, it's not regular, but very triggering as I've been there with a past partner and it's terrifying :(

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MarshmallowFondant · 09/01/2022 19:54

You poor cow. Seriously.

I can totally relate. My thyroid started packing up in my late 30s too, it just sort of creeps up on you doesn't it, with the feeling crappy and always dog tired and all the other symptoms. Mine was only picked up when I went to the GP about my horrendous periods and she ordered a whole lot of blood tests which showed it was "borderline". Since then it's properly packed up and i'm on 125mcg of thyroxine a day which helps.

Because of the horrendous periods I had a hysterectomy and am now well into the menopause. Again, the symptoms come and go. But this last month has been awful, a combination of stress and christmas and studying for a postgrad, and ill parents and just everyday shite. One of the GPs at my practice is rubbish and wouldn't recommend anything apart from the Headspace app. Hmm Spoke to the other and he has prescribed a low dose oestrogen patch, started them on Thursday. Too early to say if they are helping, boobs are sore but tbh I can put up with that if it sorts out my horrendous mood, anxiety and hot flushes.

Other things I find help is getting out in the fresh air for a walk, yoga, mindfulness and cutting out caffeine entirely.

The whole relationship thing sounds... difficult. But sort out your hormones with HRT or thyroxine - or both - and get yourself in a better position to think about next steps.

And feel free to vent. Menopause sucks.

smileandactnice · 09/01/2022 20:01

@MarshmallowFondant :) yep, I know, I think everything has gone well and truly tits up and the hormones are just highlighting like a huge neon sign many things that I've been putting up with over the years. I'm going to start looking ater myself and stop worrying about everyone else all the time and if things don't improve and I can get out of this situation I will. Sorry to hear about your hysterectomy, I hope your new HRT works really well for you. It's a huge relief to actually get this off my chest, thank you

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travailtotravel · 09/01/2022 20:03

Hugs don't work but sending them anywhere. Could have written parts of your post. Just started HRT. I did at one point actually say i's it wise to withhold the drugs that will help from the angry irrational lady'. The gp had the sense to agree and write the script.

AlbertBridge · 09/01/2022 20:48

I'm sure my advice will feel inadequate- but have you tried Menopace vitamins? Only I'm sending a lot of rage in your post! And Menopace 100% cured my menopause rage. The non-stop anger is exhausting.

Honestly, try them. Just the £5 ones. Boots, Amazon or Tesco. I can't live without them.

SueSaid · 11/01/2022 11:16

Oh op. Where to start? I hope you are accessing counselling because with so many issues you really do need some support. Yes peri will exacerbate many issues but it does sound like some are long standing and hrt just won't fix it all. I'm just saying this so so don't pin all your hopes on it.

Ask you gp for cbt and/or counselling to try to work through some of your issues and hopefully if you do start hrt you may feel some improvement in coping mechanisms. Good luck Flowers.

Fwiw I don't think GPs are stupid and maybe your mil is genuinely trying to help? Maybe try and reconnect with your mum too.

secretsevenclub · 11/01/2022 16:06

Op how you doing?

I found myself nodding away to many aspects of your post. Including caring responsibilities, lack of social life, questioning identity, porn (him not me), relationship issues, anxiety the list goes on. I am a similar age to you.

I could do with a good rant myself but like you I don't have anyone in real life - at least anyone I feel comfortable enough to have a rant to. I've had therapy but don't think I've been able to articulate what you've managed to by writing it down.

A bit cliche but I found starting a grateful journal really helped...just small things - it helped me to underpin my identity a bit too, mentioning the things I like in it. I've also started working on trying to gain a greater sense of identity as this seemed the easiest place to start and my next focus in therapy. Trying to sort out relationships (of various natures seem so much more complicated and out of my control (largely). I think we do really start to question who we are and what we want. Admittedly, I still have children at home to focus on and I am still throwing energy this way but I know that if dcs moved away, I would be feeling similar to you.

No other advice to give but you aren't alone if it is any comfort whatsoever.

BigbreastsBiggerbeard · 12/01/2022 12:13

There's a lot going on there - not surprised you're going crazy and want to scream and stab. Nothing useful to at all to add, but I hope you don't have to fight with the GP to get HRT if that's what you want. Good luck!

RJnomore1 · 12/01/2022 12:22

Crikey. I’m 45 too and all I can say is, I don’t think HRT will help with any of this except your last sentence about the night sweats etc…

You’ve got 25 years plus of frustration built up and that’s because of circumstances. You’re still young; what are you thinking of doing for the next 25 years? I need a plan to feel in control, you have so many possibilities in front of you…

Wombat98 · 12/01/2022 12:22

They should trial thyroid meds if you are between 4 & 10 & have symptoms. Nice guidance.

Will help.

speedycouchpotato · 12/01/2022 12:59

Solidarity. A lot of your post resonates with me.

I started HRT for peri menopause and it was life changing.

I do think it's time to put yourself first and consider a different future.

In 5 years time do you want things to be as they are now, better or worse. All of these are open to you.

I've realised that my life now doesn't have to be forever and it's liberating.

Opentooffers · 12/01/2022 20:29

Shit phases happen, hang in there. Imagine having your job entirely change during covid, having to gown up, tight mask, full PPE, then watch person after person come in breathing, get to know them over a couple of days, then see them ventilated and die over the next few weeks - 80%of the time initially. Then add that you are approaching 50, you get covid yourself from work, feel knackered after, you get hot flushes while in that gear, moodiness on top of stress, periods get closer together, heavier and more painful, your TSH is 7.6, your knackered all the time and your dealing with daily death and 12hour shifts, you work through a raging UTI needing antibiotics. You get a clap at the end of the week during the first wave, but you've done 2 or 3 waves since then and the appreciation has worn off, nobody claps anymore.
2 years later, periods back to 28-30 days, less hot flushes (only after coffee, I'll take that, I'm not giving up coffee) less people dying, mainly unvaccinated, you've binned the shit relationship you've had during covid - it was ok to have the company and someone to sound off at, but he was never one to rely on - and you've just met a marvelous new chap where chemistry is off the scale 😁.
Things will improve in time, ups and downs of life have been more extreme lately. Tbh though, although my sex drive is just fine I think, ( I might get to test it again soon, will have to see) I really could not be arsed, and would not ever, wear silly outfits for anyone in the name of a shag - won't the Viagra do? Hmm. For the in-laws , there's social services or nursing homes or your DH - not your job at all, so keep away and feel no guilt.

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