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The Menopause. How HRT Saved My Life

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PasturesN3w · 10/02/2021 15:22

In 2015 I was 48 years old and peri-menopausal. My periods had slowed down and become a bit erratic, but I didn't think much of this at the time, until everything began to be affected adversely, even my sense of self.

I was working a 50-60 hour week in a teaching role. I had become insomniac and had started to feel anxious all the time. After 2 years of not sleeping much at all, working long hours and drinking coffee to get through the day, I started to break-down. I don't mean I went loco and weird, but that my body started to react adversely. My eyesight became clouded and distorted at the edges, and my hearing became impaired. I'd hear what my students were saying, but on a 3 second delay - I'd see their lips move but no sound was coming out; it was really scary.

At about this time, I went on a much needed holiday alone to gather my thoughts. On the third night away, I couldn't sleep and I heard a noise in the street outside my room. I got up and looked out of the window to see a fight had broken out between 3 men. Oddly there was no shouting, just punches being swung. It escalated rapidly, and two of the men began to beat-up the lone guy, who fell to the ground as they continued to hit him. The two men ran off, leaving the third man for dead. I put on my shoes and a sweater and ran outside. The man was unconscious, barely breathing and in a very bad way. His face was a mass of blood and it was extremely distressing. I think it was 'the straw that broke the camel's back' moment for me. I actually felt something snap inside myself. I managed to alert the night reception staff, and an ambulance was called for the man. In the morning I had to answer some questions, then I cut my holiday short and went home early.

I was in a daze for weeks after and I couldn't teach. I told the school I'd 'hit a wall with teaching', said I was anxious all the time and reluctantly left mid term. I spent the rest of the academic year feeling really guilty to my students. I wasn't earning, so relying on my partners income and my anxiety got very much worse. I'd begun to totally lose all confidence in myself and to feel that I was a bad person: a bad friend and a very bad mother to my teenage children. I felt that no one liked me and I didn't deserve to be liked. My insomnia was though the roof, so I went to the doctors and was immediately prescribed anti-depressants and I got some taking therapies. My condition worsened, I had chronically bad driving anxiety and was sleeping for a few broken and torturous hours a night. I had begun to think, that perhaps it would be better if I wasn't around.

My partner was not helpful, disinterested even, and our marriage wasn't going well. He reluctantly let me use his private healthcare and I got more focussed help, and became a day-patient at a private psychiatric hospital. I was soon told I had PTSD and needed treatment for anxiety and depression. About this time, my 17 year old daughter was diagnosed with an eating disorder and my own treatment was put on hold as my partner and I dealt with that. Over the next year she gradually got well, thankfully. My own condition got a little better as I was able to be useful, and helped ferry her to various hospital appointments and she made a full recovery.

By now it was 2017. I'd come off the anti-depressants as I didn't feel they were doing much, but the low mood continued and I was still having negative thoughts. My periods had stopped completely, and I went back to the doctors and asked for HRT to deal with the sweats, which were becoming bad. I was prescribed Femoston pills and within 3 weeks everything had changed.

As those wonderful replacement hormones kicked-in, I got my life back. Actually it was more than that, I got ME back. The negative thoughts stopped and I could balance my feelings for the first time in many months. My shortcomings weren't dominating my every single thought now. I stopped looking inward and begun to focus on friends again; to be able to help my teens with Uni applications etc. Most importantly, I begun to feel happy again, which was a huge relief. I realised I had not been at all happy for about 4 years. I moved onto Evorel Conti HRT patches after a while, and continued to feel better and better. I began to be the person I had been before the menopause had started.

Later, I talked to many girlfriends about how the menopause was for them. I asked if they took HRT and if not, why not. I had at least 3 friends burst into tears on my shoulder telling me they'd been so low for many months and anxious all the time. They thought that everyone hated them and that their relationships had deteriorated, that they were not good people....sound familiar? I continued to gather anecdotal stories about women's experience of menopause and I suggested they speak with their doctor about HRT. Those that did go for it are in total agreement that it changed their lives for the better.

I went back to that same doctor who had prescribed the anti- depressants months before. I told her that in reality it was not the talking therapies or the anti-depressant I had needed, it was hormone replacement therapy. I asked her why she hadn't thought of this herself (she is my age after all) and we had a good chat about it. I tentatively suggested that next time a very weepy, depressed and anxious woman in her late 40s / early 50's presented, she might try to look into HRT first?

What I have realised is this: Menopause can alter a woman's sense of herself fundamentally. It seems to affect a significant proportion of women very adversely indeed, causing: chronic insomnia, day and night sweats, loss of libido, anxiety, depression and a sense that all relationships are doomed, and all thoughts are self-critical. Yes some women are unaffected, they have few of these symptoms. Or the symptoms they do have are manageable. In my case, I also had PTSD to deal with which made things much worse. I was over-worked, my marriage was breaking down and I had my daughter's illness to contend with. Out of all these pressures, it was the loss of my sense of self that made me feel utterly hopeless. HRT changed all this. It gave me back my personality, I became the person I had been before. I realised I really liked this new me.

I have a family background of heart attacks and thrombosis. HRT probably isn't great for someone with this history long term. So, I have myself checked out, they look for lipids in the blood, and monitor my cholesterol levels and they check-out my heart regularly. All drugs are a risk, and if you are someone who can't take HRT for health reasons and you have the bad affects the menopause can bring, I sincerely hope you have found some other way of coping and managing these debilitating symptoms. In my case, I'd rather be the rounded confident me, taking the risk of having HRT, than being miserable and living a tortured anxious life, doubting friendships and my sense of self.

Sadly, I wasn't able to save my marriage and we have divorced. The teens are at Uni and I live alone now. It's a whole new world for me, but I am mentally well, despite lockdowns and isolation. Some old married friends have fallen by the way-side unfortunately, but I don't blame myself for this like I used to. I'm still happy with who I am, even if I am a little lonesome at present and I will continue to live life and take HRT for as long as I can safely can do so.

OP posts:
JinglingHellsBells · 10/02/2021 15:38

That's a really honest account and I'm sure it will help lots of women who may feel as you did.

Just one point- HRT is actually beneficial to the arteries and it's one reason why women with an early menopause are advised to use it. Post-menopause, women's risk of heart disease increases to the same as men's, due to loss of estrogen.

There's a lot online about this if you want to read up.
One very long trial showed that build up of plaque in the arteries is reduced by 50% in women using HRT.

Hope you carry on feeling good!

PasturesN3w · 10/02/2021 17:02

Thanks Jingling. Good to know, Mumsnet menopause talk really helped me go for HRT actually.

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BillieSpain · 10/02/2021 20:22

What a fabulous post, thank you!

I hope many read it.
I've never heard anyone say they doubted their friendships before, I did exactly that too, anxiety through the roof.

So glad you feel better Flowers

celticmissey · 10/02/2021 20:45

Brilliant post OP! I know exactly what you mean about the anxiety and self doubt. I turned into someone I didnt recognise! I was advised against HRT due to their being breast cancer in my family but I may have another chat with the GP about the risk.

daisie30 · 11/02/2021 14:24

What a brilliant post! I felt exactly as you have described down to the insecurities around relationships / no sleep etc etc.

After my own research into HRT ..reading jinglings advice here & the menopause matters site (invaluable help), felt equipped enough to ask my GP for hrt.

My first symptoms kicked off at 40 and I spent years thinking it was just stress and went to my GP several times with non-stop bleeding period probs, and not once did my doc say that this could be peri/hormone related & looking back now it very obviously was.

I started HRT 3 years ago, at 49, and haven't looked backSmile

Thank you for writing such an insightful post!

rosie39forever · 11/02/2021 18:17

Thanks so much for that, HRT has changed my life in many ways and I intend to use it for as long as possible, it's such a travesty that millions of women have it drummed into them that menopause is natural and therefore something that we must 'get through' and 'put up with'. We only get one life and I'm damned if I'm going through mine drenched in sweat and hallucinating through insomnia.

ChocolateTruffleCake · 12/02/2021 02:31

I am very glad that you've had such a great response to HRT @PasturesN3w! It is so sad that menopause is not treated properly by doctors, and that so many women continue to suffer needlessly.

I am still looking for the right dosage for me. It's been a long road. Started out last July on 2 pumps Estrogel, increased to 3 pumps and then 4 pumps (along with 200mg Prometrium). Continued to have night sweats, brain fog, irrational irritability, insomnia etc.

Now my ob/gyne has me trying 75mcg Estradot patch with 200 mg Prometrium. That's not working either. I don't know what to do!

Any advice, ladies?

DramaAlpaca · 12/02/2021 02:39

I'm one of those women who's pretty much sailed through the menopause and haven't felt the need to take HRT, but it's been really interesting to read your post, OP. Thank you.

TheresAwholeWideWorld · 12/02/2021 03:43

Thanks for your honest account OP. It's so helpful to read stories like yours although I am sorry for what you have been through.

I'm in peri-menopause (hard to tell when it turns into the menopause as I don't have periods due to the Mirena coil) but I really suffer with hot flushes, especially at night and insomnia, my GP did a blood test and thinks I am peri. I'm 45 so the thing putting me off HRT is I'm (relatively) young and am concerned how long I can be on it for. If I start now, will I have to come off it when I still need it?

JinglingHellsBells · 12/02/2021 07:35

I'm 45 so the thing putting me off HRT is I'm (relatively) young and am concerned how long I can be on it for. If I start now, will I have to come off it when I still need it?

The advice from NICE is women use it when they need to - 45 isn't that young really for it.

You can use it for life- no time limit and no one can 'make ' you come off it unless there is a good medical reason for you to stop,
If drs say 'time to stop' it needs discussing as both NICE and the British Menopause Society have consensus statements which say there is no time limit- it's about individual risks/ benefits and personal choice.

There are women in their 80s and 90s still on HRT.

tawnytowel · 12/02/2021 07:41

I think thus might be me, thank you

ScrapThatThen · 12/02/2021 07:46

My symptoms were mainly emotional. I kept bursting into tears at work - because I work for CAMHS my GP felt it must be work stress. I just knew 'this wasn't me'. Luckily I had the classic hot flushes so started oestrogen (as I have had a partial hysterectomy). Once we tweaked the dose I was symptom free. The table of risk factors for me shows some benefits and minimal risks. Human biology is evil to women.

mrsnw · 14/02/2021 12:14

Yep, I could have written that post too. I felt like the old me was walking alongside the anxious, deranged, depressed me that's was almost suicidal me saying stop, this isn't normal. The whole emotional rollercoaster is way beyond our control until you get treatment. I ran out of Tesco crying because I couldn't choose a deodorant, everything overwhelmed me. That was my breaking point and I booked to see a doctor. One year on and I'm much happier. Yes, there are side effects but I'm willing to take the risk. I couldn't go on living like I was!

effieochondriac · 18/02/2021 22:19

I am on Femoston too. I have a lifelong depressive illness which is very hard to treat, but HRT has taken the roughest edge off my moods, and stopped the really horrible physical symptoms, like flushes and insomnia and burning eyes! I sometimes think my response can be patchy though - transdermal must be a better way of getting it in! Glad all goes well with you. Menopause sucks and it's a very long journey without help.

bert3400 · 18/02/2021 22:34

Thank you for your post. Your story is very similar to mine regarding emotions and worthlessness. I've now been on HRT for 4 years. It was trial and error for the first 2 years but finally found one that's fits me, and I'm never stopping . My family have all benefited from me taking HRT. I am now a pretty nice human to be around Grin

OnlyTeaForMe · 19/02/2021 18:24

I could have written a post similar to yours, except for me it coincided with the death of my father, so for a long time I just thought I was grieving.
I discussed HRT with friends, but a well-meaning friend (of the "I sailed through menopause without any problems" type) kept persuading me it would be a bad idea. Eventually, when I wasn't sleeping more than 2-3 hours a night and was taking painkillers every night for terrible restless leg pains, I broke down at my GP surgery and asked to try HRT. About 4 days in, I woke up one morning crying, and when DH asked what was wrong, I said "I slept for 8 hours straight" for the first time in 3 years!

I haven't felt so sharp and healthy since my 20s. I've now gone back to university in my 50s and am studying for another qualification.

effieochondriac · 19/02/2021 18:27

@OnlyTeaForMe, what type of HRT are you using?

SewingWarriorQueen76 · 19/02/2021 19:28

Thank you for honesty. I have only just started the patches and even if it is psychosomatic, as I only started them on Tuesday. I know what you mean.

I used to have an amazing memory, mine disappeared. Dry skin, putting on weight, absolutely no libido & I put that and about 20 minor niggles down to being at home, covid etc.

I think having to email the GP with a list of symptoms, rather than speaking, actually helped them listen. I had 1 blood test, I 'm 44 and they gave me the combined patch.

Already my brain feels better, libido now exists, rather than absent. If I had left it, I don't know how close to the OP, I might have got. I will be nagging all my female friends to pursue blood tests. Everyone else said, oh your a bit young but I knew when my sleep was disturbed something was up. I could even sleep through DD waking as a baby.

Good for you OP

OnlyTeaForMe · 19/02/2021 20:47

[quote effieochondriac]@OnlyTeaForMe, what type of HRT are you using?[/quote]
Novofem (1mg) which is a low dose sequential HRT (tablets).

I know there is a lot of support for transdermal HRT via patches or gel on MN, and I tried that at one point, but I found I couldn't tolerate the Utrogestan - it gave me the most terrible migraines and blurred vision.

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Tinty · 19/02/2021 21:46

Can anyone help me. I have for the last 4 years been losing words, can’t think of the word to say in the middle of a conversation. I had high blood pressure so the GP put me on tablets which help. But I feel the losing words is getting worse again. I have no other symptoms and GP did blood tests and said I’m not even peri menopausal yet.

All the things I have read about menopause mention brain fog. I also read if you do the blood test after 45 it is too late. I am nearly 50.

Still having periods as I am on the pill, but they only last 2 to 3 really light days. Could this be menopause?

effieochondriac · 20/02/2021 09:01

@Tinty I am a bit confused about why you are on the Pill at nearly 50 with high blood pressure? Is this not a contraindication? I'd look into that with a family planning clinic if I were you.

As far as I know, doctors are meant to diagnose menopause through symptoms, not blood tests. The obvious ones are hot flushes, joint pains and fatigue, also the mood/memory ones. Could it be that the dose of hormones you are getting via the Pill is masking the physicai symptoms?

zafferana · 20/02/2021 09:26

@Tinty loss of words/memory is definitely a symptom of peri/menopause and I had the same thing before I started HRT at 46. Blood tests should NOT be used to diagnose menopause as hormone levels fluctuate throughout the month and so only ever give a snapshot. Diagnosis should be due to symptoms. Check the list of symptoms on Menopause Matters or The Menopause Doctor websites and see how many you can tick, then contact your doctor. I would also question why you're on the pill at 50 when you have HBP.

Tinty · 20/02/2021 09:36

Hello thank you for your replies @zafferana and @effiochondrac. My blood pressure is the only contraindication for my pill which is for acne as well as contraception. My blood pressure is not massively high but a bit elevated (a lot of stress in my life). I am on it blood pressure tablets at a lower pressure than most women would be put on them because I have slight kidney problems, (birth defects), and higher blood pressure is bad for kidneys. I am checked regularly and my kidneys are fine. I do wonder if being on the pill is masking other symptoms, but it does stop my terrible acne. It will be a problem I will have to sort out by apparently having to see a dermatologist at the grand old age of 50!

effieochondriac · 20/02/2021 10:18

I would wonder as well, @Tinty, if the blood test results were distorted by your contraceptive hormones. You might be producing very little natural oestrogen - it would be unusual at the age of nearly fifty not to show some signs of perimenopause, at least a slight rise in FSH.

If the Pill is keeping your acne in check, then HRT might do the same, plus relieve your other symptoms.

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