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Husband seeking insights into the menopause

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Perichoresis · 22/08/2020 14:41

Good afternoon.

I fully realise it might come across badly for a man to be posting in this forum on this subject. I can assure you my intentions are honest, and I am simply seeking some help..

All I can say, is that I've struggled to find a constructive way forward with my wife in regard to her menopause, but it's become increasingly difficult. She simply doesn't want to talk about it with me anymore, and I totally respect that.

My goal in coming on here was to be able to chat in an informal and anonymous context, in the hope it'd give me some insights I'd otherwise never be able to get.

My wife's menopause started in earnest four years ago, and without resorting to hyperbole, it's fair to say it has ravaged her. She has suffered crippling headaches, increased pain and flow during her periods, a hatred of her body, removal of all libido, and a crushing sense that it'll never go away.

She's often exhausted and exasperated with the whole experience, and quite rightly says I have no way of relating to what she's going through.

My question is this - if you're a woman who has experienced, or is currently experiencing, menopause - what would you like to say to a man in order to help him understand what you're going through?

Further, are there any big 'dos and don'ts' you'd want to tell him, in terms of what he says and does? Is there any advice you'd like to give, so he can better support and stand with you?

As I said at the beginning, I fully understand that what I am asking might be construed negatively, but I am desperate to not cause my wife any more pain than she's already suffering, and sometimes I seem to do that without realising why.

This is utterly heart-breaking, and so, in a spirit of mutual understanding and support, can any of you please help me?

Thank you, in advance, for anything you might be able to offer - I am all ears...

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DiscontentedWoman · 23/08/2020 08:13

Some reading material - Oestrogen Matters by Avrum Bluming and Carol Tavris.
@JinglingHellsBells has pointed you in the direction of the Liz Earle podcast with Kirsty Lang. Another interesting Liz Earle podcast with Dr Tina Peers, ostensibly about histamine intolerance but again it covers HRT and breast cancer towards the end of the recording.
www.menopausedoctor.co.uk/podcasts for more information, including plenty of excellent wellbeing advice regarding exercise, eating well, etc.

Perichoresis · 23/08/2020 09:31

@Elieza

OP that’s great your wife is considering acupuncture.

It’s good there is only one professional body so you don’t need multiple websites.

Like all things in life; hairdressers, joiners, cooks, there are good ones and not so good ones. All qualified. Just some better than others!

Hence try and check out reviews or phone and ask them themselves what results they have had with menopausal patients.

Mine is near Glasgow.

I went to her as she’s a nutritionist, counsellor and acupuncturist. So she gets the full picture of all my mind and body problems and recommends dietary choices I can consider to support me at my age.

I take it that Glasgows no use to you?

Hi Elieza

Yes, I am afraid Glasgow is rather too far for us, but my wife has booked someone just a few miles away, and is going to see them next week.

Thank you SO much for giving the advice - she's really excited about following this route.

Have a great day...

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Perichoresis · 23/08/2020 09:35

@Steppingonrakes

I really feel for both your wife and for you.

I used to roll my eyes when I saw women fanning themselves with bits of paper, menus etc. When I started with night sweats and constant flushes throughout the day I realised just how the menopause can totally mess up the quality of your life.

I went on HRT but that isn’t an option for your wife. I don’t agree theres a perfect type of HRT for each women either after the one i took with no problem stopped being manufactured. Since then every one (I’m up to the fifth one now) has caused bleeds and severe pmt symptoms. I’m waiting for an appointment at a menopause clinic at the moment.

It must be so hard to support your wife through this. All I can advise is to follow her lead and acknowledge what she is going through is awful and don’t try to come up with solutions.

Thanks for this empathetic, encouraging and helpful post.

Comments like yours confirm I was right to come on here...

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JinglingHellsBells · 23/08/2020 09:44

Acupuncture has been used for menstrual problems for ages @Perichoresis. I'm really surprised no one has suggested it to your wife before. It's quite mainstream, and my own consultant recommends it to women where appropriate.

Looks as if she's sorted now.

Maybe she can re-think MN- we aren't all 'Karens' you know! (Apologies to anyone called Karen. I hate this labelling, by the way )

Craftycorvid · 23/08/2020 09:46

Wishing you and your wife well. You sound lovely, and for me your willingness to listen and be supportive are the most important things. Stepping aside from menopause for a moment, our 40s/50s can be a harsh time generally, often with older parents to worry about and, in your wife’s case, serious illness. From your comments, I wonder if she’s feeling depressed? I’m pleased she’s found an acupuncturist. It helped me with many of the emotional and physical symptoms. If you check the person is registered with the British Acupuncture Council, that’s assurance they have undergone thorough training. Might she think about finding a good counsellor too? My personal experience of menopause was that all my unfinished business decided to get up and bite me simultaneously. I’m slowly working my way out the other side with the support of a therapist (who is male. He said ‘this is something I’ve obviously never experienced,’ and I replied ‘well I’ve never been here before either’). All the best to you both.

Elieza · 23/08/2020 11:31

Great OP.

Stick with it for at least three periods worth. As often as you can afford for the first few weeks to work on all the issues.

I was there weekly for a while, now toned down to monthly (mostly but I’d anything crops up I just get more if I can afford it).

And don’t be surprised if your wife sometimes feel worse after a session. That’s because the bad stuff needs to be shifted in and then the good stuff can take it’s place. (Can’t remember the correct terminology). So it won’t be a miracle in the first session. Keep with it. It’s got a cumulative effect on me. And the lighter periods are so much less fatiguing alone!

You could back here to show others that it works. There’s a lot of people think it’s ‘woo’ but now there is sufficient evidence of its effectiveness that it’s about to be written into the NICE guidelines for various illnesses so that’s great.

Perichoresis · 23/08/2020 13:40

@Craftycorvid

Wishing you and your wife well. You sound lovely, and for me your willingness to listen and be supportive are the most important things. Stepping aside from menopause for a moment, our 40s/50s can be a harsh time generally, often with older parents to worry about and, in your wife’s case, serious illness. From your comments, I wonder if she’s feeling depressed? I’m pleased she’s found an acupuncturist. It helped me with many of the emotional and physical symptoms. If you check the person is registered with the British Acupuncture Council, that’s assurance they have undergone thorough training. Might she think about finding a good counsellor too? My personal experience of menopause was that all my unfinished business decided to get up and bite me simultaneously. I’m slowly working my way out the other side with the support of a therapist (who is male. He said ‘this is something I’ve obviously never experienced,’ and I replied ‘well I’ve never been here before either’). All the best to you both.
Thanks for your lovely, affirming message, and your comments resonated with us.

Thanks for sharing your own experiences, and I wish you and yours well too...

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Perichoresis · 23/08/2020 13:43

@Elieza

Great OP.

Stick with it for at least three periods worth. As often as you can afford for the first few weeks to work on all the issues.

I was there weekly for a while, now toned down to monthly (mostly but I’d anything crops up I just get more if I can afford it).

And don’t be surprised if your wife sometimes feel worse after a session. That’s because the bad stuff needs to be shifted in and then the good stuff can take it’s place. (Can’t remember the correct terminology). So it won’t be a miracle in the first session. Keep with it. It’s got a cumulative effect on me. And the lighter periods are so much less fatiguing alone!

You could back here to show others that it works. There’s a lot of people think it’s ‘woo’ but now there is sufficient evidence of its effectiveness that it’s about to be written into the NICE guidelines for various illnesses so that’s great.

We really appreciate your input, and for your compassionate and empathetic vibe.

The truth, is we're feeling rather excited about seeing how this line of treatment will help.

I was hesitant to come onto a public-forum, having never done it before, but input like yours has confirmed it's a helpful/worthwhile thing to do...

Onwards and upwards, eh?

Have a great week.

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