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Reduced Utrogestan users please help!

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KaliforniaDreamz · 07/06/2019 10:19

I hope someone can advise..
i am using gel 2xpumps everyday and utrogestan for 7 days. i was struggling with low mood and with GP consent switched from 12 days to 7. however i am not sure how to take - do i count a 28 day cycle and take for 7 days from day 15 as i did before i reduced?

i am aware this sound very dim.

Also. I also recently had a scan reealing adonemyosis - does anyone think this is HRT related? DO i need to worry? my GP as VERY offhand about it.

I have a docs appt booked but it's ages away....

anyone had similar? Thanks for any help...

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Barracker · 07/06/2019 11:12

Did you take the utrogestan orally or vaginally?
I know that isn't what you ask, but I take it both ways and this may be a solution you haven't tried?

Barracker · 07/06/2019 11:18

To answer your timing question, I tend to take mine using a calendar month rather than 28 days cycle, and I begin on the 1st of the month, for as many days as required. In effect, the taking of progesterone is day 1, which makes it easier to keep track of the cycle.
I take utrogestan from the 1st to the 12th of every month.
This is the best way for me to maintain compliance.

But in your case, if you prefer to take it at the end of the cycle, you would take it on the last 7 days:
Days 22,23,24,25,26,27,28.

Barracker · 07/06/2019 11:20

Last bit of advice - have you ever been to a menopause clinic? Better advice than a GP.

Also, the menopausematters.co.uk forum is brilliantly helpful on this.

KaliforniaDreamz · 07/06/2019 12:12

Thanks for your replies Barracker
My pending appt. is actually with a proper clinic so i am hoping they will look after me a bit better than my GP has.
I take orally. Hadn't considered that vaginally may work better for me.
I have been on HRT for almost 2 years and it works brilliantly for a while then i need to tweak my regime. I am getting disheartened that i may always get very low for some part of the cycle. Really rather now.

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KaliforniaDreamz · 07/06/2019 12:12

*not

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JinglingHellsBells · 07/06/2019 12:47

Last bit of advice - have you ever been to a menopause clinic. Better advice than a GP.

There are very few around. I've also read some terrible tales on M Matters forum where menopause clinics have been useless and the drs no better than a GP.

If you use it vaginally, it will bypass the liver and you may get fewer symptoms. It depends. I find using it that way means I don't get gastro issues, but I absorb more and feel more tired.

Count your cycle the way the PP described- do for the last 7 days of 28 rather than mid month.

It's not critical.

Adenomyosis is like endometriosis. I was shown to have /had this by a scan a while back. Not linked to HRT- something you would be born with or had developed at some point of your fertile life. It's the womb lining being found in the muscle of the womb and can lead to painful periods.

Barracker · 07/06/2019 13:18

There are few around, it's true. I travel quite a distance to get to mine. That's bad news though about bad experiences, I hadn't heard anything other than brilliant feedback about the clinics. My own experience has been fantastic, perhaps because the senior nurse is so dedicated, well informed, sympathetic and committed to excellence in menopause care.
I can highly recommend Birmingham, if that's within reach. It's excellent, really excellent.

KaliforniaDreamz consider vaginally. You may find you don't get the same effect.
I don't experience any side effects from this method. When I take it orally it makes me very dizzy within half an hour of taking it. It took me a while to realise because I always took it before bed. I only realised the effect when I got up shortly after taking it. It's quite striking, I wouldn't want to drive after taking it orally.
This doesn't happen vaginally.
I still use both methods, depending on whether I feel I want to have more pg in my bloodstream, or direct to uterus instead.

JinglingHellsBells · 07/06/2019 13:31

When I take it orally it makes me very dizzy within half an hour of taking it. It took me a while to realise because I always took it before bed

This is a known and listed side effect which is why the instructions say take at bedtime. I experienced it once when I took it at bedtime and got delayed going to bed- kicked in about an hour later.
No one should be using it orally during the day for that reason.

KaliforniaDreamz · 07/06/2019 13:43

Thanks both. x

i am so sick of this low i get.
It is so debilitating.

I had read somewhere (sorry, i cannot remember where) that increased oestrogen could lead to adeno, it has never been mentioned before at any preious scan. I don't get painful periods tho so maybe i should not worry about it.

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JinglingHellsBells · 07/06/2019 13:48

I had read somewhere (sorry, i cannot remember where) that increased oestrogen could lead to adeno

No, incorrect.

Like endo, endometrial tissue in the wrong place, responds to estrogen and 'bleeds' during a period which is why it's painful as it cannot escape like normal endometrium tissue.

Adeno is endometrial tissue in the actual muscle of the uterine walls. When you have a period it tries to bleed and this causes bad muscle cramps. You either have it or you don't and if you do, periods give the pain.

KaliforniaDreamz · 07/06/2019 13:55

Ok thanks Jingle was getting a little health paranoia there....

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