Constant need to wee during the night

[NotOnTheBench]

Along with never knowing whether to wear pyjamas, put the winter or summer duvet on, or how to get to sleep with DHs constant snoring like a lawnmower - I have recently started needing to get up so many times at night to wee.

Not just a little bit, as if I have a UTI, but every half hour last night, from 11pm to about 4am, I was up to wee - loads! When I wake I try to check if I really need to go and yes I really do!

WTAF? I had about 2 hours continuous sleep last night and as a result, I have to drag myself into work and am not concentrating fully. I don't drink tha much coffee/tea. Last night my last drink was a cuppa at about 8pm and a glass of water after a run at 7pm. I feel thirsty and dehydrated when I wake up as I try not to drink anything during the night. How can I be peeing so much and still feel thirsty?

I had a diabetes test a couple of weeks back as I was concerned, but it was negative.

Is it just another f'g thing I have to tolerate as "it's the menopause daahling"? I can't use HRT as I have a history of breast cancer.

You mean a family history of breat cancer or you having had it?

Sadly the need to go to the toilet at night is another lovely symptom of the menopause. It was one I escaped until my cardiologist told me I needed to drink much more to help my low blood pressure and heart rate and now I've joined the 'I need the toilet NOW' day and night group.

I read a professional expert saying that it was actually a natural process that was a positive thing as as we get older, we are more at risk of uti and flushing at night is actually good for the body. The issue is therefore how it affects out sleep. I used to stress about it, but then through dealing with my poor sleep and the stress related to its impact on my day, I realised that I could get back to sleep quickly and even better trick my mind thinking I was just starting the night and getting back into deep sleep so actually overall sleep better.

Every two hours is a bit much though. I thought I wasn't drinking much caffeine either but my consultant said I needed to cut it all together, so now only have one cup of tea first thing in the morning and after that only decaf and no fizzy drinks at all.

Like you, I exercise after work, so need to rehydrate afterwards, which doesn't help. Do you drink as you run? The consultant said its much better to drink more before and during rather than afterwards.

I had BC myself and just lost an Aunty to secondary BC.

I don't drink during runs as I don't go out for more than 45mins unless I'm running a 10K 'race' every couple of months.

Re the low BP - I have very low bp/pulse but never heard advice to drink more water to counteract it?

You should be able to use vaginal estrogen creams even having had BC.
There are women on other forums using this who had BC. It's a very very weak estrogen and is absorbed mainly in the vagina.

ALSO the whole 'No HRT/ Breast cancer debate is being re-thought. My own consultant (menopause specialist ) tells me they have women on HRT who have had BC .

There was also a very interesting discussion on Womans Hour last week about the dr and author Avrum Bluming of a new book Estrogen Matters, who is certain that estrogen does not cause BC (another thing my own dr has said to me.)

This is the link if it works. It's the same episode as the interview with Darcy Bussell.

www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m0000yjx

I missed saying that what you have sounds like vaginal atrophy which affects the bladder too so it's more sensitive and can't hold as much.

I am in my second week of using Vagifem and am amazed how I am now sleeping through the night without having to get up two or three times for a wee. The difference is staggering! Much more refreshed in the morning!

Ok so I've just gone to book a GP appt which I have an online account for, only for it to say that I can't make an appt until I have attended in person to confirm who I am. Even though I have attended the surgery several times this year including 2 appts I booked online! My next appt is for a coil check which is scheduled for 5 minutes so how the f am I supposed to discuss any other issues in that time?! My surgery is simply appalling to get an appt for.

Also fed up of never having a good night's sleep. With the weeing, DH snoring, and this morning my back has gone into spasm. On top of all this, I've been getting odd stabbing pains in one toe that make me scream! Apparently yet another menopausal symptom (gout?). Oh the joys of being XX

Been there done that very common symptom of fluctuating hormones I usually get it before my period which could come at any time these days
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Ok so I've just gone to book a GP appt which I have an online account for, only for it to say that I can't make an appt until I have attended in person to confirm who I am.

I get the same online error with my surgery's booking system and it's because you already have one appt booked online. The system prevents you from booking another online appt until you attend the one you already have booked. I guess it's a "feature".

Have you been checked for diabetes, OP? Being thirsty, tired, up to the loo at night, UTI's, thrush can all be symptoms.