I need to help myself now

[ElephantsandTigers]

Definitely feel like I'm leading up to the menopause if not peri-m especially after reading an article in the paper today. I'd put the symptoms down to other things. Anxiety, exhaustion, feeling very low, bleeding out of time, early/late period, lasting longer, being shorter. I already know my oestrogen levels are zilch.

GP referring me to a HRT specialist. Has put me on mirtazapine and I take 1/2 a tablet.

Are there any supplements or food stuff I could take to help me before I see the specialist please?

Ok, I guess that's is hard for you to cope with all these. I had brain fog due to oestrogen deficiency, tiredness and depressive mood. I couldn't understand the cause and I had great difficulty to function. HRT helps me to function and "clear" my mind. Psychotherapy is a way for you to cope with your psychological issues and maybe you ll need antidepressants too. HRT will help according my personal view, the hormonal and the physical state more. And it takes a little time...but it ll be ok! :)

Yes, I took meno mood (the supplement you said in your OP) and found it helpful, but I wouldn't take it with Mirtazipine, because of the st john's wort in it . Good luck with everything - my GP gave me a lecture this week about 'Oestrogen not being able to solve everything' and not to expect to feel any better. Like you, I think it is probably mostly meno affecting my moods, but could be other stuff not helping.

Can I just add, finally, Elephants that no one needs 'qualifications' to post what I have to try to help you. It's all in the NICE guidelines. These were published Nov2015, are online , and there is a long version and a shorter version if you prefer not to wade through lots of pages. Nothing I post here is really my opinion- I'm just reporting information that is out there anyway, which anyone can find by searching. I also mentioned the research published by the RCOG on alternatives to HRT (herbs etc) which I don't have time to link to (again) but is easily found through google.
I'm leaving your thread now, and wish you well. I've also decided to step right back from this forum and not post so much or at all, because although I enjoy sharing information I've learned, there are times when posters don't like my style (which can be a bit blunt as I'm posting during my busy day and supporting my family etc) which is hurtful when I've given up my time.

I'm sure everyone appreciate your giving up your time PollyPerky and I thank you. What I personally find off is your criticism of people's opinions and feelings and I really got the feeling you expected me to go back to the doctor that second. There was no time allowed between you posting the advice and me being able to act on it. Being pushed for time doesn't excuse bluntness that borders on bossiness.

I trust my doctor is trying to help me. I do think I need HRT and will ask for it in a couple of weeks but with respect, the GP knows more about what has gone on in my personal life than you and I expect that's why she's done what she has done.

Emerald13 -thank you. I feel a need a bit of everything to help me tbh.

Jasminedes - thank you to you too. I'll be wary of expecting a quick fix.

well, if you are going to be so blunt yourself, can I off load too? I'm saying this kindly, and appreciate you are not in a good place emotionally, (but we all have stresses in our lives that we don't necessarily talk about) ...

I felt really frustrated trying to help you. I didn't read any 'thanks' or 'what a good idea, i wasn't aware of that' or any acknowledgement of the relevant info about searching for the RCOG Alternatives to HRT - which is what you wanted.

I felt I was posting into a void because at no point did you show any gratitude or connect with me directly, other than to repeat that you had confidence in your GP (when everything you posted showed she doesn't have a clue about HRT.)

Is it any wonder I came over as 'bossy'?

I wish you well and hope you get some answers.

Elephants, I have had some success with Premensil double strength plus a Kalms tablet to aid with sleep.

I am not anti HRT but wanted to increase the natural oestrogen in my diet and supplement to see how things went. I am now 53.

PP I didn't say thank you until I felt I had something to thank you for. Becoming bossy because someone doesn't say thanks smacks of not wanting to genuinel help that poster but more to make yourself feel good. Putting things in brackets just comes across as sneery and I don't need telling that everyone has difficulties. We all know that already. Bossing someone who is already feeling fragile is just cruel.

Abra1d - I'll have a look at Premensil. I have tried Kalms but didn't find they helped. I've slept better since I started on the ADs. Thank you.

Hi everyone,

I think everyone on this thread wants the best for OP and each other.
It would be awful to think that by coming on this thread people are feeling worse.

Elephant - i really don'y kno if i have depression/anxiety or if it is jsut hormonal imbalance but i do know i am peri menopausal so i am happy to try HRT for 6 months and hope that it helps. If i still feel terrible i am going ot seek other help.

I wish you all the best, let us know how you get on.

And Polly thank you for all the info it has been invaluable to me on your other posts.

x