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Mature study and retraining

Talk to other Mumsnetters who are considering a career change or are mature students.

Have I missed my chance to change career?

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YellowDahlia · 05/05/2022 10:48

I work in communications, am mid-40s, had a part-time role up until the end of last year, but took on a new full-time job in December. It's public sector, the money is good, good pension, the role is pretty good, with opportunities for progression etc ...but I feel like I'm looking down the barrel of 20 more years stuck indoors, in front of a laptop, becoming increasingly fed up with corporate bullshit (I'm pretty tolerant atm but suspect this will wear me down over the years!)

When I was PT I used some of my time to begin qualifications in horticulture but convinced myself that this was probably a bit of dead end, and if I wanted security, decent pay etc that I should stick with comms. Now I'm wondering if I wasted the opportunity to finish my studies and build up some actual work in eg garden design. I don't believe in such a thing as a 'dream job' - I think every job has its negative sides - but this is the closest thing I can think of for me. I think the chance to work with plants and gardens for a living would be wonderful. I love creating new garden borders, selecting plants, advising others on that sort of thing and I love being outdoors.

I realise it's very definitely Not A Problem to have a good, well paying job, especially in the current times, and maybe I'm overthinking this but it's important to me how I spend my days and I'm finding it really hard to engage with my job at the moment and settle into full-time office-based (mainly wfh) life. But walking away to retrain is definitely not an option financially and now I feel like I'd struggle to find the time to do it outside of working hours.

Has anyone successfully career changed like this without significantly dropping their income and/or burning out in the process?? Or is this just another confusing phase of my perimenopausal existential life crisis?? 😣 Maybe I need to suck it up, realise the benefits of my current career and stick to gardening as a hobby...

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Edmontine · 05/05/2022 20:47

Well, there are only 24 hours in a day - so either you fit gardening into your current working life, or you change your working life to find the time. But you’re barely six months into your new full time role - it may be that once you’re more acclimatised you’ll find it less time or energy consuming.

Do you commute? If so that’s time you could use for gardening theory. What about weekends? Or your annual leave?

On the other hand, yes, it may be that the gardening ‘dream’ seems suddenly urgently attractive because you’re now required to give your full attention to work. Only you will know which it is.

I’m sure there are people who maintain a full time salary while transitioning to another area of work. But they’re much cleverer than I am, so I have no advice to offer.

NellesVilla · 05/05/2022 20:53

Life’s too short, OP. Do what you want to do. Can you work on part time horticultural projects voluntarily first, perhaps get some experience with the National Trust or RHS first? As an adult a few years’ younger than you, I worked for free for a dog groomer for experience.

As for making a permanent change, I know a man in his late 40s who trained as a solicitor, then as a teacher and now is a landscape gardener. He’s never been happier. I also know another man who retained as a solicitor in his early 40s, working alongside much younger colleagues at the start of his career. I’m also hoping to move into dental hygienist work as I feel I have nearly 3 decades’ worth of work ahead of me!

Edmontine · 06/05/2022 08:47

Retraining in middle or even old age isn’t unusual - as this board testifies - but doing so without any salary loss must be pretty rare.

I’d love to know if anyone here has managed that.

YellowDahlia · 06/05/2022 15:03

That's exactly the thing @Edmontine - I feel like now I'm earning more it will be so difficult to give that up. Not that I'm getting used to splashing the cash, more that it might be unfair on the family, as we're now more able to save more, afford better holidays etc. But I guess I might have to consider it at some point, even if I'm able to retrain and/or start a side project while still working FT - there will always be a risk of lower earnings with this kind of self-employment, which I suppose is one of the reasons I have previously rejected the idea. Maybe as you say it's an attractive alternative because I'm finding it difficult to settle into my new job - that's definitely a possibility! I'm wfh so am finding it a bit lonely/isolating - and therefore also no learning time, I'd have to study during evenings or weekends.

@NellesVilla am in Scotland so National Trust and RHS opportunities are few and far between, and the issue is also having the time to give to volunteering - but it's worth considering. And yes I agree life is too short - I suppose I feel a certain amount of pressure (self-inflicted!) to find a job I really love, and I'm not sure I'm currently in it...

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coconuthead · 10/05/2022 09:44

I work in communications and have just gone from civil service to a law firm. It's so soul destroyingly dull and corporate, and full of insufferable people, but I am paid well and so I'm in a similar position to you. Spend my days dreaming of more fulfilling work but would probably have to half my salary to do that.

I know a lot of people would probably say I'm lucky but I honestly feel dead inside some days.

No advice but I get it OP!

YellowDahlia · 11/05/2022 20:41

@coconuthead sorry to hear that, and thanks for the sympathy. I've begun making a plan in the past few days, to at least try and feel like I'm doing something about it. I'm going to start studying again for the second half of the qualification I started, with the aim of hopefully doing some garden consultancy/design work on the side.

If this seems to be a goer I could ask to reduce my hours at work and if it's really successful perhaps it could be a full-time occupation some day. It still feels like a long-shot but I do feel a bit better taking action of some kind to change things. And I'm also preparing myself mentally, considering how bad would it be, really, if I did earn a bit less - and actually I think it would be worth it if I was doing something I loved, for at least part of the week.

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coconuthead · 11/05/2022 20:44

Absolutely! I'm so glad you're taking steps to change your situation. Mine is difficult because we aren't yet on the housing ladder and we can only really save for a deposit in a realistic time frame if I earn what I do and contribute. But, I will do the same once we have bought a house!

coconuthead · 11/05/2022 20:45

That was in response to @YellowDahlia of course

YellowDahlia · 11/05/2022 21:08

Thanks @coconuthead! Good luck with your house search, hopefully the right time to change your circumstances will come along very soon 🙂

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coconuthead · 11/05/2022 21:09

@YellowDahlia thank you and good luck to you! Life is toooooo short! 😊

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