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Talk to other Mumsnetters who are considering a career change or are mature students.

Mid-forties and totally lost career-wise...

27 replies

newnamenellie · 25/01/2022 12:14

So, I'm 47 and live with my DP and our two DDs who are both at secondary school (16 and 11).

I have an undergraduate degree, a PGCE and an MSc which I completed in 2020 - so lots of qualifications but no idea where to go with them now.

I worked as a teacher for a few years before my older DD was born and absolutely loved it. I'd say it was the only time in my working life that I felt satisfied and respected. When my daughter was born, we moved from London (had lived there for around 8 years) back up North to be nearer to family and to buy a house! I became a SAHM (my choice, I absolutely wanted to be there for my daughter and so in effect, gave up my teaching career). I had hoped that at some point when she was nearer school age, I would be able to get a part time teaching job, but that just never happened as there is lots of competition for teaching jobs in the city where we live and very few PT opportunities. In order to use my teaching skills, I went down the childcare route instead and have worked PT as a pre school practitioner for the last 14 years (gulp!). In that time, we had our second daughter and the flexibility and working hours of my job continued to be very suited to family life (always there when they're home from school, school holidays off etc...). These benefits have kept me in the job for longer than I should have stayed really. The pay in childcare is appallingly low and there is a lack of respect for staff I find.

My undergraduate degree was in a a very academic subject that has no real career path apart from one or two very specific and quite boring ones and I have no interest in pursuing it any further.

My MSc is in Psychology and I did it partly because I am fascinated by the subject and partly with a view to maybe effecting a career change. Having now completed the degree, I don't feel that I have the necessary drive or motivation to enter what is an extremely competitive area of work/expertise. And this is the problem essentially. Over the years, I have lost a lot of confidence in my own abilities and lost my identity too to an extent. I don't regret the choice I made with regard to being there for my children BUT now they are getting older I definitely feel at a disadvantage and just generally depressed about my prospects.

I'm lucky in that DP has a decent job and we have a comfortable life. My small salary allows for the little extras and we would miss it but still manage if it wasn't there.

I've spent the last few years wondering what the hell I could do, coming up with ideas only to dismiss them. I feel totally stuck.

I enjoy working with other people and that is one of the things I really like about my pre school job, so I think any new career would need an element of interacting with others. I would love to do something creative but have always felt/been told that I'm no good at that sort of thing so have never really tried anything, even as a hobby. I keep coming back to the idea of floristry but wonder if it's viable. I love the idea of a little lifestyle business of some sort but in my head, that's something other people do.

I think I would benefit from some sort of coaching/counselling to help me to evaluate my situation and gain some focus.

Apologies for the long ramble, I would love to know if anyone else feels the same...

OP posts:
Hairyfairy01 · 27/01/2022 18:38

Have you looked into occupational therapy? It kind of links your teaching and psychology background with your creative streak quite well. So many different areas that you can specialise in once you become an OT as well x

MrsKDB · 27/01/2022 18:43

Definitely get a coaching session. Find a reputable one with lots of varied / positive reviews. They’ll help refocus , identify skills / skill gaps to fill etc.

itsme7 · 27/01/2022 18:47

Coaching sounds like a great ideas, but with your teaching experience and psychology qualification it might be worth exploring being a specialist dyslexia coach? I was recently researching it from a user perspective and it struck me what a fantastically rewarding it could be. You need a certain amount of teaching experience etc. just thought I’d mention it - they work with children and adults so lots of social interaction with others. Good luck!

itsme7 · 27/01/2022 18:48

Excuse typos - cooking and typing! Rewarding career in case that wasn’t clear!

RonCarlos · 27/01/2022 18:50

Yes, get a coaching session. Or come and join local government with all of the rest of us who feel like this Wink

On a serious note, I have a friend who studied floristry at FE college and is a florist. She loves it. However it's really full on work (early mornings, Saturdays, weddings, brides crying) and she doesn't own the business.

losingmymindiam · 27/01/2022 19:05

Have you thought about being an ALevel Psychology teacher? I am primary trained but made the move and we tend to be in demand!

DaisyTheUnicorn · 27/01/2022 19:18

Ive got a similarish record and would love to do OT but can't do full time retraining! I wish Id done ed psych/OT pre kids...

Hairyfairy01 · 27/01/2022 19:24

Some courses are part time daisy, over 4 years.

MsMeNz · 27/01/2022 19:28

The world is crying out for child psychologists and therapists etc, so hard to get hold of that would combine your enjoyment of working with kids and your MSc, although you maybe have to do a bit more study, you could make many kids lives better and make a real difference in the world.

DaisyTheUnicorn · 27/01/2022 19:30

Yup 3 years fulltime doctorate for child psych. V hard to get into and v intense! Its such a pain.

I've not seen a PT OT course, not even a postgrad course here just the 3year undergrad one!

Orangesandlemons77 · 27/01/2022 19:33

Art therapy?

Luredbyapomegranate · 27/01/2022 19:38

Career shifters is a good organisation, with lots of peer support. I did use a coach I thought was good so if you’d like their contacts PM me - for coaches do talk to at least 3 people and see who you like and will change you. Good ones are invaluable but it’s an unregulated industry.

hidinginthegarden · 27/01/2022 20:18

What about a Guidance teacher in a secondary school? You sound ideal and that would use the teaching and the psychology and experience with your DDs. And I don't think you get the homework marking to deal with.

Mackmama · 27/01/2022 20:28

@RonCarlos yes, I think a lot of us who don’t quite know what we want to do and haven’t found our niche end up in jobs like mine in local government where I’m a bit of a Jack of all trades. That said I’ve always quite liked my job and it’s been great while I’ve had young kids but I’m in a situation like the OP now where I’m not sure what to do next. I asked for opinions on here about applying for a new job and got the thumbs up but I still haven’t done it so I should get off mumsnet and go and do it now!

DaisyTheUnicorn · 27/01/2022 20:48

Ooh what do you do in local govt?

What's a guidance teacher? I know of careers advisors or patsoral workers . Pastoral workers are usually paid a fair bit less (which isn't fair!.)

Southtrainer · 27/01/2022 20:50

Educational psychologist?

chillied · 27/01/2022 22:08

why not get back into teaching? maybe there will be vacancies now, I hear lots of teachers are leaving...

Babiesandboardgames · 27/01/2022 22:35

What about teaching at a sen school? You have the psychology background and there is definitely a shortage

DaisyTheUnicorn · 28/01/2022 10:02

Teaching feels such a trap.... they say transferable skills etc but often people just suggest more teaching when you try to escape!

newnamenellie · 31/01/2022 14:42

Thank you all for taking the time to respond and apologies for the delay in getting back on here.

It's comforting to know that others feel the same. I've just been on to the Career Shifters website and I think it looks like a good place to get inspiration and advice.

I think ultimately I want to move away from teaching because I no longer have the enthusiasm for it. Educational/child psychology are areas that interest me, but as someone pointed out, these require doctorate level degrees and are extremely hard courses to get on to. Having a psychology degree is a funny one, it's nothing more than a stepping stone to a psychology career as most roles require further study. I think that ship has sailed!

Anyway, I'm going to look at career coaches and see if they can help. I'll let you know the outcome!

OP posts:
DaisyTheUnicorn · 31/01/2022 15:03

I'd love to hear how you get on. On one hand I see proper graduate professional careers I wish Id retrained in prekids/younger (OT/ psych etc) on the other hand I see £10 hour jobs advertised locally. And not much in between...

newnamenellie · 31/01/2022 17:27

@DaisyTheUnicorn you’re so right, those are the job options it seems 😬…

OP posts:
catsharingmychair · 01/02/2022 09:14

If anyone wishes to find a qualified, registered, Careers Coach for adults or young people, please do consider using the Professional Register of the professional body that governs Careers Guidance in the UK. You can't be on here without appropriate qualifications:

www.thecdi.net/find-a-professional?SearchUnits=m&InclusiveSearch=false&SearchRadius=5

TheDaydreamBelievers · 01/02/2022 09:20

Unfortunately I agree that it would be an intense further road to work as a psychologist. In your position I would be looking at secondary psychology teaching, at pastoral care roles, ASN roles, specific learning difficulty support eg Dyslexia as someone mentioned above

trumpisagit · 16/02/2022 18:46

I feel a little as you do OP.
Batchelor's Degree in not very useful subject, some great working years in interesting support roles pre kids and a pgce and a years teaching, which I really didn't enjoy. Last job pre kids as a mentor in a FE college, which was brilliant but intense.
I have 2 secondary kids, a couple of part time jobs that fit around our lives, and a lovely job.
I feel I need a post kids career, but also feels a bit late, and I am fairly unmotivated.
I have been considering a MA in Creative Writing (one of my part time jobs in writing for industry but not very creatively), but not sure I can justify the expense.
I wish I had chose a degree with a career path, rather than an interesting one.