Paleo and primal

[Daughteroughter]

I have been reading about paleo and primal diets has anyone tried them?

I buy pouches of coconut milk - brand name is Thai taste, from Waitrose £1 for 200ml.

Made some fabulous Paleo bread this morning - a muffin in a minute type, best I've had yet. Will post recipe if anyone feels like some baked goods.

Just had a look, snow, that looks much better, just coconut and water.

Unfortunately I don't have a Waitrose anywhere near me :-(

misscph, what sort of kefir grains do you buy? I've just had a look and there are milk ones, mushroom ones and water kefir! Help!

I don't think Thai taste is exclusive to Waitrose, I'm sure the other supermarkets sell it too.

Another lurker looking to join in. Started LC a couple of months ago but didn't want to lose weight so started reading around and came across paleo. I'm not strict but work on the 80/20 principle and feel much better as a result!

I struggle with cutting dairy so keep some as t doesn't seem to cause me any problems but do wonder if I'm eating enough protein. Am tempted to have lots of veg and limit the meat a bit but I don't think that's true paleo.

The snacks list from nappyaddict was great - I still like an occasional treat when the kids are eating fruit or biscuits!

I'll have a look, I get my online shopping from Asda and they don't have it, neither do my local Sainsburys or Tescos :-(

Where do people get almond flour from? I can't find it in any of our supermarkets or in the local organic food shop.

For things like nut flours, nut butters, raw coconut oil etc which I can't get locally, I use goodnessdirect, online grocery store- there are plenty of online shops, that one is good, reliable IME, and if you order over a certain amount, delivery is free (so I order once every few months, use-by dates are always at least 6 months ahead).

Thanks Macaroon. Will have a look.

You can buy blanched (without skin) ground almonds in most supermarkets. Ground almonds are fine for a lot of recipes but for some you may need a finer texture. You can grind the ground almonds down further using a blender - do it too long and you will make almond butter - not a bad thing either! I have only found one source of properly finely milled almond flour in the UK it's from www.realfoodsource.co.uk , if you buy in bulk, you can get it for quite a good price.

Thebestpossibletaste, re coconut milk, at any large tescos... Ignore the main store "Chinese/Thai", noodle and sauce isle (where the blue dragon stuff will be) and head to the "ethnic" food isle, where they have proper (ie not mainstream UK brands) oriental, Jamaican and Eastern European foods... There you will find a couple of varieties of coconut milk with no nasties in, and its cheaper too. Chaokoh is the brand currently stocked in my nearest couple of tescos , ingredients are coconut, water and citric acid.

I buy almond flour from the local asian supermarket.

Coconut milk: I actually prefer the Blue Dragon brand, but perhaps I should check out other available brands.

Kefir: Get the milk kefir grains. Full instructions here: www.thepaleomom.com/2012/04/recipe-coconut-milk-kefir-yogurt.html

Pate recipe is so easy:

500 g liver
100 g butter
100 g lard
4 eggs
1-2 tsp salt
Pepper
Big splash of fish sauce (can be left out)

Whizz it all in blender, pour in to ramekins, silicone muffin cases or whatever (small bread tin, but then cook longer) and bake at 175 c for 15-20 min. Freezes well!

I serve with butter fried mushrooms, crispy bacon rashers and cocktail gherkins.

You could also serve with seed crackers:

1 cup pumpkin seeds
1 cup sunflower seeds
1 cup sesame seeds
1 cup flax seed
1 cup water
2 large egg
1-2 tsp salt

Mix and let sit for 1 hour and spread over baking paper on a baking tray )perhaps x 2). Bake for 2 hours at 100 c. Break up and enjoy! Keeps well, good in lunch boxes.

Miscph- I have never tried making pâté - that looks easy, and paleo/primal do encourage eating more organ meats... But, question, does it make the house pong of pâté?

Pate!

Hi everyone, can I join? I have been following the pale diet for two weeks now. Last week was great, I didn't crave sugar or carbs but the last two days have been horrific and I can't understand why. Has anyone else found the same? Also how do you find your weight loss? I only want to loose about 8 lbs but even after two weeks I am only 1 down.

Puffle - what have you been eating? As you only have a little weight to lose, you may need to cut carbs to quite low levels. Hunger usually means not enough fat/protein or too much carb(especially high gi).

Hi pufflemum. My weightloss is definitely slower than when I was following 'pure' low carb. However, I think when you only have a few pounds to go, it does slow down quite considerably anyway.

Re: feeling bad, have you significantly cut carbs/sugar from what you were eating before? It's not unusual to get a bit of 'withdrawal' a few days in. Or you could just be poorly - it might not have anything to do with your diet! What are you eating on a daily basis?

Welcome to the Thread pufflemum Hope you feel better soon. I haven't weighed myself in ages - just want to eat healthily & get really fit....and hopefully get more sleep.

Inspired by a strawberry jam recipe on civilised caveman, I bought some Pectin which gels without sugar - made some blueberry & cinnamon freezer jam this afternoon for ds, who likes to eat jam in rather large spoonfuls with his porridge....at least now it's mostly fruit and it was really easy.

Is very easy to make paté! The paté cooking is not particularly smelly, but blending the liver is something you need to get used to, it looks quite awful ;) I forgot to add that you should melt butter/lard before adding to blender/food processor, but I don't really think it matters much. I have been told that making paté with half liver and half heart is also very nice, although I have not tried it myself. I love calf's hearts in cream, but the rest of the family doesn't like it so we never have it :(

pufflemum, it is quite common to suffer from "carb flu" when you make the change, even after starting off with no problems in the first week. Try some bone broth or just dissolve a stock cube (Kallo's is gluten free and organic) in hot water, it is very soothing, this really helped my dh when he made the change, he had quite bad carb flu (or was it man flu?). Also keep up the fat intake, you might need more than you expect in the beginning.

Lol, I can imagine it does look awful! I'm going to give it a go though.

Thanks for the support everyone. Typically in a day I eat, two eggs for breakfast, tuna and salad for lunch then meat or fish with veggies for dinner. In between I may have a few brazil nuts and fruit. I do work out hard now that the kids have gone back to school, so somedays I spin then do a body pump class , but then I am so hungry.

What do you get your fats from now that you are not eating dairy? I'm not a huge meat eater so would struggle with offal and the like.

Fats from- butter(ie cook mushrooms in it), plenty of butter! Also raw coconut oil, and avocados. Some double cream for coffee... Dairy fats are better tolerated by most people than milk products.

Paleo/primal/lchf... Some advocate butter/cream, some don't. Some advocate raw cheese and even raw milk, but usually after you have stopped eating them for at least a few weeks so you can see clearly if you tolerate it well.

Olive oil is fine on Paleo too. And clarified butter is better tolerated than butter as it contains less casein.