Paleo and primal

[Daughteroughter]

I have been reading about paleo and primal diets has anyone tried them?

Yy to the bone broth, you know some butchers give them away free as "dog bones", or for 50p... Means they don't have to pay to dispose of them.

Ooh...yes. Straight to bed with lots of strong beef tea .

What's the deal with the bone broth? Does it have some kind of magical salubrious powers?

More or less magical yes! If you cook bones for a long, long time (many many hours in slow cooker or at a low simmer), the minerals leach out of the bones, the marrow, the gelatine too- all full of good stuff!

Well, my compounded misery might make you smile/despise me more. Went to a friends for dinner, naturally arguments break out between her and her boyfriend, i leave to walk home. Fall down a massive bank and cannot find glasses/shoes plus. Refuse ambulance. Police drive me home, I am so ashamed.

Stuffez You poor love. Want some beef tea?

And I've just figured out how to do flowers so have some of those too.

Thank you building, you are lovely.
I am an idiot so don't deserve flowers. I was penniless yesterday so hadnt eaten all day. Went to my friend's house -'she had done a beautiful veg-packed curry - and I drank too much. Well, it hit me like a train and the falling was totally my fault. I am DYING of shame this morning. I literally couldn't move at the bottom of this bank - I am scratched to fuck all over. Thanks for the beef tea, whatever that is, it sounds lovely. Retreats under duvet.

Beef tea...read up thread.

Sounds like you need a fry up. Hope you recover soon.

Oh, Stuffez, what a crappy day! If it makes you feel even slightly better I'm suffering this morning too - completely self-induced by waaaaaay too much red wine at a friends house last night; I feel like death.

Hope your scratches heal and your weekend improves!

stuff you party animal! In time you'll laugh about last night - I hope! I over indulged last night too - feel rough as guts this morning....only have had water and black coffee so far. Everyone else has had homemade sausage with bacon and eggs.

Trying out some rib eye steak from Abel & cole for dinner tonight, might try and get some sweet potatoes to accompany. Dcs are still in two minds about them so I'm slipping one or two onto their plates along with white potato chips. All cooked in lard.

Dh has tried the jerky from Laverstoke Park farm and he wasn't keen on the texture - too tough, he likes the M&S one, but it's loaded with sugar. Was quite tempted by the nitrate free bacon - it's expensive though, especially with nearly £5 postage.

Feeling a bit better now; made some roasted cauliflower soup for lunch followed by a little bit of coconut-sweetened dark choc, so that hit the spot pretty well! Just back from Aldi with almond flour so might try to make onion bhajis tonight to go with our takeout curry... And have also topped up my vitamin D with a walk in our very sunny local park - drew the line at going barefoot just yet but hopefully it won't be long, once the ground has dried out a bit. Love going barefoot!

Stuffez, , you are really having a hard time of it! Hopefully next week will be a better one .

I have (very loosely primal!) protein cupcakes in the oven

Thanks, kind people, I've stopped pity partying now! (Glad others were also suffering this morning!)
Have not used it as an excuse to eat shit though - am currently roasting a chicken with chilli oil and going to have it with some roasted broccoli and cauliflower - yum!
tea it's been quite a revelation to me to learn there are all these different kinds of flours - it definitely opens up a lot more cooking possibilities.
I also bought an ill-deserved treat for my breakfast tomorrow - kippers! Haven't had them for years!
snow your rib eye will be delicious! And what is lard like to fry chips in? It's so weird to read about weight-losing people using lard!

Mmmm...kippers. Lovely. We can't get them here .

Can't get kippers?? That's rubbish! God I'm looking forward to them already!

Lard is the business when it comes to crisp chips, goose fat and duck fat work well too. Damned ribeye is cut on the wonk - doesn't say much for Able&Cole, how on earth do they consider that good butchery, turns out the steak was pretty tasteless, having a proper hoke through the veg box, the carrots are horrid - dried up, bendy and old, tomatoes are past their best....this is why I stopped using them 7 years ago, of course they will refund and replace but who wants to complain every week.

Better experience on a trip to our new Morrisons - the veg was amazing, we picked up some strange fruits and a very pretty Roman cauliflower - great place to bring the kids and get them enthused about veg...need to figure out how to put together an interesting dish to go with jerk chicken today - might even do the jerk on the BBQ.

Fry up for breakfast with some lovely king oyster mushrooms.

Really fancy kippers too, maybe next weekend....

I've suddenly twigged today that I'm hoiking up my bloody trousers all the time recently. Even though the weight doesn't appear to be coming off yet, I can feel changes happening, particularly in my stomach area. My scales are ancient though and cost about 14 pence so maybe not the most reliable...
Hope everyone's had a nice weekend.

Thanks for the thoughts on supplements and shakes - sort of ties in with my thinking. If you're eating a varied, natural diet, why would you need or want to get a load of processed shakes down you?

Stuffez, hopefully next week will be better!

Snow, I too found Able and Cole underwhelming but have found Riverford consistently good over the years.

I might try Riverford - last time I used them I found that they delivered too many brassicas but we seem to be eating loads of the green stuff now, so maybe it might fit with our diet now.

Hello all

Must admit that this weekend has seen rather too much indulgence on the red wine front... Though am just keeping my mind in all the reservatrol (sp?) I must be ingesting! Got some sunshine and barefoot walking in today which was lovely - do and I headed up to the North Downs and sunbathed with the papers and kicked off our shoes... Feels like spring!

Dinner tonight is low-carb sausages with sweet potato 'chips' (oven baked with coconut oil and paprika) and buttered sautéed courgette. And maybe some 85% choc to finish off the weekend!

Sounds great tea we had planned sweet potato chips with our steak last night but they were sadly neglected and burned to a crisp! Dinner this evening was jerk chicken with salad and homemade grain free cookie dough ice cream with strawberries and some lovely honey to finish. Was worried about the cookie dough as it's dd's favourite ice cream - Ben & Jerrys, that is but she loved it - really surprised she didn't have a hairy fit over the coconut taste, the teenage years are closer than i want to believe, that recipe will be a definite on the repeat list.

Meringues with chocolate ganache for next Sunday's treat, I have too many egg whites in the freezer.

Just got some lovely beef to do a beef casserole with. Will be having with sweet potato mash. Managing to eat more this week, I've found I need to distract myself when eating so I watch tv or come on here! And that way I can sort of mindlessly shovel food in. Aware that goes against most diets but otherwise I am eating two meals a day and only child size portions

I think I've converted my dad too. He was moaning about being fed up of toast and cereal and asked what I eat for breakfast. Got a phone call today off him "I've had steak, eggs and veg for breakfast!! And I'm still full"
Apparently my mother thinks he's gone insane but he is planning omelette for tomorrow's breakfast

Right, am going to have a little rant now, so brace yourselves

I am working in a large south London hospital today, spending time with some of my students who are in placement. I forgot to bring any lunch with me, so tripped off to the hospital shop to get something (the one and only canteen is on the other side of the site and I didn't have time to get there). My choice for lunch was: roll, sandwich, toastie, baguette or soup with roll. Except they didn't have the soup. When I asked if they had any fruit or salad I was met with a blank look.

What there was, in abundance, was sugar. Ross and rows and rows of 'grab bags' of sweets (I.e. twice as much as a 'normal' bag. Rows and rows and rows of chocolate, biscuits, snack bars, 'healthy bars' with the first three ingredients some sort of sugar. The drinks on offer were twenty different types of fizzy crap, with a few bottles of plain water at the bottom. If you wanted a coffee, you could get a pastry for just a quid. You could buy 10 different types of crisps. But could you get a fucking apple??

I know I've just been reading Robert Lustig so I'm probably hyper aware of all this. But oh my god, it's terrifying. It's a hospital ffs. And you literally couldn't buy a damn thing in there that wouldn't give you diabetes. It makes me want to scream.