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Join discussions about low-carb bootcamp plans, meals and progress. Consider speaking to a medical professional before starting any diet.

Summer 2023 Boot Camp, Week 1: Here we go!

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prettybird · 18/06/2023 22:54

19 June is just about upon us and here we are at Week 1 of a 8 week Boot Camp. Are you ready? Smile I'm posting this on the Sunday so that those of you who are early risers can get stuck right in Grin

I'll start a new thread every week.

It will take me a few posts as I blatantly copy across from @BIWI ‘s excellent introductory posts and I’m doing this on the app which makes it more award.

First off the major caveat: I am not a doctor, nor a dietican. This Way of Eating works for me and has done for many others. I’ve followed BIWI on these Boot Camps for many years and there is a lot of support but if you have any medical issues or concerns, you need to make your own choices. You need to be particularly careful if you are pregnant or breastfeeding (in which case follow Boot Camp Light), diabetic or if you are taking any medication, as you may need to liaise with your doctor regarding dosage. I'll post a follow up post with more details.

The Spreadsheet of Fabulousness is here @FinallyHere is Spreadsheet Monitor and most weeks will post the link in one of the following posts after my OP as I usually post via the App and links can be a bit hit or miss. I'll do a link but it might not work for everyone Confused also, if you experience any problems with the Spreadsheet, tag @FinallyHere and she will work her magic on it! Grin

And so to the rules. These are the rules for the first two weeks. After that, we do relax things a little:

1. Eat three proper meals a day

You must eat breakfast. It doesn’t have to be a lot, and it doesn’t have to be absolutely first thing, but you must have something. For the rest of the day, if you’re eating enough food and especially enough fat, you shouldn’t be hungry between meals. But if you are hungry, eat something. (Hard boiled eggs make a great snack). After the first two weeks of Bootcamp we will relax this, but these two weeks are critical in terms of helping you switch easily to a low carb way of eating - and if you start to feel hungry, it makes things much harder! Eating this way will ensure that your blood sugar levels are kept stable, which will mean that you are much less likely to experience hunger. A typical high carbohydrate diet can mean that snacking is a routine part of your day. Once your blood sugar levels are stable, by eating low carb, you should find that you no longer want to snack. But the rule of thumb here is ‘if you are hungry, eat!’. (Just make sure you are only choosing low carb snacks, of course!)

Experienced Boot Campers may follow intermittent fasting (IF) (16:8 or similar) and therefore not have breakfast or another meal but if you’re new to this Way of Eating, wait until you’ve got used to it before starting on IF.

2. Avoid processed foods

Focus on pure, natural protein as the basis for your meals - meat/fish/eggs. Things like sausages, ham, bacon, pre-prepared burgers etc should be avoided as much as possible. You can have them, but just not at every meal, every day.

3. Eat lots of fat

Eating fat will not make you fat. Honestly! But it will keep your appetite satisfied, and it sustains your body’s energy requirements perfectly. Fat does not provoke an insulin spike, unlike carbs which do (a lot) and protein (a little).

Fry in butter, add butter to vegetables, eat salad with a home-made vinaigrette dressing (not made with balsamic vinegar though, as this is too sweet), add mayonnaise where you can (just check the carb count on your mayo first). Eat fattier cuts of meat – e.g. pork belly, roast chicken with the skin on and/or eat the fat off your lamb chops. Absolutely no low fat/light/’Lite’ foods of any kind!

4. Make sure you are eating vegetables and salads with your food

This is where your carbs should come from, and this is non-negotiable. But choose only those vegetables that are on the allowed list, which you'll find on the spreadsheet.

Make sure that you focus on eating those vegetables that are under 5g carb per 100g, and this will ensure that your carb counts are kept low. You don’t have to weigh/count carbs – this is one of the great joys of this WOE (way of eating), but if you’re new to low carbing it can be helpful to weigh your portions of veg in the early days, just so that you know how many carbs are in the sort of portions that you like to eat.

The vegetable carb counter is helpfully colour-coded into green (eat freely), amber (go easy) and red (best avoided as much as possible), which will help you to make your choices.

5. Be careful about dairy (apart from butter, which is unlimited)

Dairy can impede weight loss for some people. If you are drinking tea/coffee with milk or cream, try to restrict yourself to max 2 cups per day. There are a lot of carbs in milk, so if you are having several cups of tea/coffee per day, you will quickly rack up your daily carb count (e.g. 1 medium latte contains more than 12g carbs!)

You may eat cheese but again, don't overdo it. Full fat yoghurt is the best way to include dairy in your diet - but beware, it does contain carbs. You should choose one that’s 10% fat – most of the supermarkets have a Greek yoghurt in their premium ranges with this amount of fat.

6. You must drink a minimum of 2 litres of water per day

The more weight you have to lose, the more water you should drink.

This originally came from www.low-carbdiet.co.uk/ but although the site is now defunct, there are other sources which advise similar quantities of water.

It does of course go without saying not to drink the entire amount in one go: you should spread it out over the day.

Water is essential to weight loss for those who follow a low carb way of eating. The minimum consumed in a day should be:

Your Weight - Litres
140lbs - 2.5
160lbs - 3.0
180lbs - 3.0
200lbs - 3.5
220lbs - 3.5
240lbs - 4.0
260lbs - 4.5
280lbs - 4.5
300lbs - 5.0
320lbs - 5.5
340lbs - 5.5
360lbs - 6.0
380lbs - 6.5
400lbs - 6.5

High levels of ketones in the blood stream can lead to a reduction in ketone production, therefore being well hydrated could aid in keeping the levels low and ketone production ongoing. Consuming enough water can have many other positive side effects, e.g. it aids your kidneys with the processing of protein, reduces the retention of water, helps with preventing constipation, and reduces the levels of ketones released by your breath, which in-turn will reduce breath odour.

However, drinking a lot of water can mean that you also need to keep an eye on your electrolyte balance. You need to make sure that you are consuming sufficient sodium and potassium. On a low carb way of eating, we should eat more salt, so make sure that you are cooking with salt and adding salt to food, if you like it.

Good, low carb, sources of potassium are spinach (raw), avocado, mushrooms, courgettes and asparagus, as well as salmon and yoghurt.

The water is really important - any time I’ve noticed myself stalling, I’ve noticed that my water consumption had dipped. I like to think of it as helping to pee the fat away Wink

7. No alcohol

Alcohol is the easiest source of fuel for the body to burn, so it will always use this first before it starts to burn any fat - which is why you need to restrict it, especially in the first two weeks of Bootcamp, when we are encouraging the body to stop using carbs for its source of fuel and turn to fat-burning instead.

If you really can't do this - at least try and restrict it to the weekend. Vodka with soda is the best thing to drink. Or Champagne, red wine or dry white wine.

8. No fruit

Really. Seriously. Honestly. None at all. Zilch. Nada. After the first two weeks of Bootcamp you will be able to introduce certain fruits, in moderation, but at this stage fruit is simply too carby. We are also trying to break the addiction to sweet things, so cutting fruit out is part of this process. If you are getting all your carbs from vegetables and salad, you will be getting all the nutrients and fibre that you need.

9. No nuts/seeds

Although they are a good source of nutrition and contain lots of fat – which is great for us – they also contain carbohydrate and, because they’re so moreish, you can quickly end up eating a lot of carbs.

When we move to Bootcamp Light, after the first two weeks, you can re-introduce these, but be careful and go easy. On the spreadsheet, you'll find a nut carb counter, which illustrates just how much they vary in terms of their carb counts.

10. No sugar or artificial sweeteners

Sugar is an obvious ‘no no’, but artificial sweeteners are also an issue. One of the aims of this way of eating is to eat pure and natural foods, so including sweeteners is not recommended. Some people find that artificial sweeteners can impede their weight loss, and there is some suggestion that your body can respond to sweeteners as if they were sugar, by releasing more insulin - and therefore laying down fat.

Given that the aim of Bootcamp is to help us lose our sweet tooth and addiction to sweet things, then it is a good idea to avoid sweeteners altogether in this first two weeks.

That's us off and running. I'll follow up with a few Housekeeping posts but I think that's plenty to get started with. Grin

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TheOnlyMrsW · 24/06/2023 16:18

Looking forward to the dresses, I put a dress on earlier that I haven't worn since pre-lockdown and was pleased with how it looks, I'm certain that my tummy has shrunk this week but don't own a tape measure so didn't take "before" measurements on Monday.

Still have the ghost of a headache, after gym had eggs scrambled in butter with broccoli and a piece of ham and just had a small bowl of ffgy with a splash of cream as feeling v hungry. Already had 2l of water and a flat white 😢.

Dinner is planned as tapas - chicken and chorizo pan-fried with peppers and sun-dried tomatoes, spiced chicken wings, pork pinchos and salad. DH will also have the rest of the Jersey Royals roasted. Have some nice cheese if we feel like it too.......

EvenmoreDisorganised · 24/06/2023 16:37

Gorgeous cat @prettybird - one of mine does that to me on a regular basis the other wouldn't deign to give me the pleasure.

I think I'm a bit carb-fluey today, which would tie in with my sudden water-loss whoosh. I may not have been totally adherent earlier in the week but didn't want to derail the thread so I will leave that there and move on. Tired, mild headache. It might just be the heat though. The thing I usually notice in keto is getting slightly light-headed going upstairs and a bit of muscle fatigue in my legs but I take electrolyte drops if it happens which soon sorts it.

ListenLinda · 24/06/2023 17:47

What a day. Woke up to find there had been a power cut over night, and our cooking facilities are all electric. So went to mcdonalds for breakfast & coffee.
i ordered a double sausage and egg mcmuffin, took the muffin off and ate the rest. 😂
lunch was a meh meal but the electric is back on so we are having pork gyros tonight.
i’m skipping the flat bread and have done a huge salad with sliced avo and gonna throw some olivies in, that come with a chilli oil and cubes of cheese.

been extra thirsty today, i’ve definately had all my water today!

venusandmars · 24/06/2023 17:48

@FinallyHere you were in Scotland? You should have let us Scotties know and we could have crashed your meetings!

My sister lives in SE England. Visiting her is the only time I drink bottled water.

I've lost 3 or so lbs this week. Already I feel myself less bloated and more motivated. But also I'm starting to do the mental gymnastics of weight loss. Getting to my starting point was into a stone bracket (maybe I should have eaten something prior to recording my weight to get me to xxx.1 so I could have had an early win) Grin. I've got 0.3lb to go to get me to the 140s rather than the 150s. I switch between stones and pounds, just pounds, and kg, to pick up any close target. I look at BMI (not as an ideal but as a motivating point when it is relevant). I also have magical numbers e.g. being lower in kg than my age (warning this does not work if you are not in your 60s), or a number that matches my dcs birthdays e.g. 16th July = 167

I do all this to try to create tiny and achievable goals. Sometimes even half a pound off in a week makes a magical difference. Slow and steady wins the race.

I do also have a pair of dream shorts. I'm nowhere near trying them now because that would demotivate me, but perhaps as September looms...

onthecoast · 24/06/2023 18:25

Okaygoahead · 23/06/2023 09:49

Hmmm. I went ahead with the psyllium because the package I had listed its carbohydrate content as very low/nil. But I’ve just now read that there are over 6 grams in a tablespoon 😳so that sounds high! However, the same site then goes on to say: “Since our body does not digest the carbohydrate in psyllium husk, it contains zero ‘net carbs’ (total carbohydrate minus fiber) per serving.” Not sure what it would do to blood sugar? Perhaps I’ll leave it aside for now to be sure, although it has so many benefit!

I take psyllium husk, around a teaspoon every 2 days on average. For me at least, it’s the best possible antidote to low-carb constipation.

HappiDaze · 24/06/2023 18:31

I used to buy the big tubs of 'Regucol' psyllium husk powder from Holland & Barrett because it's meant to good for fatty organs. I just kind of stopped using it. They've sold out but I might try and get hold of some.

pangolinfan · 24/06/2023 19:00

Hi all, really enjoying this marvellously supportive and enthusiastic thread. Previous bootcamper here, but haven't done one properly for two years and the weight has crept back on. Started 6 weeks ago (so was thrilled to find a new bootcamp - thankyou @prettybird !) Like @venusandmars I am all about the small, achievable goals and NSVs. Doing well this week, but the weekend always trickier because of the snacking opportunities. Had an urge for something deeply salty and savoury tonight, but didn't want to faff about, so made an anchovy-laden salsa verde (Jamie Oliver recipe) on a pile of tender stem broccoli with some ham on the side. Really hit the spot.

Summer 2023 Boot Camp, Week 1: Here we go!
Jenasaurus · 24/06/2023 19:12

Thank you so much for everyone that has been kind and offered support and constructive advice, I would thank you individually but due to being a little emotional today having found out a family member is terminally ill with ovarian cancer that has spread, she has hours rather than days/weeks my head is all over the place. I am going to sign off for a while but wanted to thank you for the support, what a lovely little community, I am so grateful and wish you all well on your journey xx

EvenmoreDisorganised · 24/06/2023 19:14

I'm sorry to hear that @Jenasaurus and thank you for coming back to tell us Flowers

Stokey · 24/06/2023 19:54

@Jenasaurus Flowers sorry to hear that, wishing you well.

We live in London and the water is pretty awful. When we go and stay at my in laws in Worcestershire, my DC rave about the delicious country water. @Random789 I got a soda stream last year, game changer for on tap fizzy water.

Love the cat snap @prettybird . Have attached similar from the hammock this afternoon. I didn't really need additional heat!

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HappiDaze · 24/06/2023 20:25

@Jenasaurus we'll be thinking of you and looking forward to hearing from you when you feel ready to join us again 

@Stokey that looks so relaxing Smile although she looks almost as big as you or you look as small as her

I made a load of ratatouille earlier today which has been very enjoyable to eat. I baked some chicken breasts in a Maggi paprika bag, I love how juicy they come out and then you just bung any leftovers in the fridge for salads etc

B - coffee FFGY
L - ratatouille, 2 x boiled eggs
D - chicken breast and basic salad

I'm actually really full at the moment. I've had a lot of water and tea today. A really nice rose petal tea without milk just now.

I think my car alarm is going off

Okaygoahead · 24/06/2023 20:33

I have 20+ of my husband's cousins arriving tomorrow for lunch, so it's been a bit of a madhouse. Have made plenty of carby things for them, and regret to report I snuck one (half) potato from the new potato salad on the grounds that I had to test it. But otherwise have prepared cold poached salmon, ratatouille and we have beef skewers, spicy chicken drumsticks and sausages for the barbecue, etc etc so I won't starve and neither will anyone else!

Lucienandjean · 24/06/2023 21:29

@Jenasaurus so sorry to hear your family's news. Much strength to you all. Flowers

Struggling a bit today with the heat and humidity.

Today's food

B: low carb toast and butter, marmite, coffee
L: scrambled egg, avocado, sausage
D: creamy chicken curry made with coconut milk, salad.

I just realised as I typed that that coconut is a nut! Is it forbidden on BC? Oh well, too late now.

All the 💦 water. At least it's easy to drink plenty of water when the weather is so hot.

venusandmars · 24/06/2023 23:30

@Lucienandjean I don't really know where we are on coconut milk as part of a curry. I think, in general, that one of the challenges about nuts is that they are very dense sources of nutrients and fat, and that it is very easy to over-eat them and consume a lot of calories. We don't weigh things or count calories here (thank goodness!), so avoiding nuts in the first 2 weeks seems like very good advice - rather than allowing '4 almonds and 2 macademias per serving'

Also different nuts have very different amounts of carbs: pecans and brasils have 4g carb / 100g, pistachios and cashews have 15-22 Shock chart here

Having said that, your coconut milk or coconut cream will have standard nutrient info so you can see what's in it. And a can of coconut milk split between several portions...

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MilsonandJim · 24/06/2023 23:39

venusandmars · 24/06/2023 10:16

That is a very relaxed cat @prettybird - what a great way to start the day.

I'm heading to the beach later for a wedding. Will have creamy scrambled eggs with smoked salmon before I go. And I think dinner will be baked ham with rattatouille, and veg in cheese sauce.

Almost missed this. Thank you for your encouragement. Coincidentally I had a tuna spinach salad for lunch! Have had very little dairy today and am feeling much better for it.

Andi2020 · 25/06/2023 00:08

@Jenasaurus thinking on you takecare.
@prettybird hope the repairs go well have leak in my house ongoing with insurance since Goid Friday can't put heat on incase bust boiler and need it to heat water every week its another excuse as there is 2 leaks gave to do it separately they wanted bathroom ripped out fir photos of leak before they pay and I only gave 1 bathroom so stressful.

Food
B Eggs Mushrooms water tea
L Greek yogurt Coffee water
D Chicken Broccoli green beans water
Few cups Ginger tea and water

Goodiewhemper · 25/06/2023 07:14

@pprettybird hope your leak is now resolved. We had a tank overflow leak a few months back and a little water did quite a bit of damage. It is so frustrating. Almost as frustrating as my dinner yesterday evening when I made a cauliflower base pizza (Saturday is pizza night in our house). I had to take a phone call so was late sitting down and the rest of the family had finished. I put the pizza on the table, went to the fridge to get some chilled water and my very naughty dog scoffed it down in the 30 seconds I had my back turned. I really wanted to cry as I was starving and I had put a bit of effort into making the base. Luckily I had also made a fresh batch of cloud bread so I just made a sandwich with gorgonzola and peppers instead with a salad of rocket and three cherry tomatoes.

On the plus side, I didn't have my usual Saturday night beer or the M&S truffle crisps we usually share on a Saturday evening. So yesterday I had:
B - FFGY with a half spoon protein powder and a coffee with cream. I had a second coffee with cream mid morning.
L - half avocado with tomato and cucumber, egg with peppers and grated cheese
D - cloud bread sandwich with gorgonzola and peppers on oil. Rocket and tomato salad.
I have started carrying a water bottle around with me but am probably still not drinking quite enough.

YappyCamper · 25/06/2023 07:27

I had a day of major DIY and chores in the heat yesterday so I'm shattered this morning. I find it harder to remember all the water when I'm not sitting at my desk all day so weekends present BC challenges for me.

My dad invites us round for hotdogs regularly, it's his thing. He is simultaneously obsessed with his own weight (he's very slim) and also with feeding others. He won't eat the bloody hotdogs, just claims to have eaten earlier and sits and watches the rest of us eat - it's so weird. Anyway, I don't get into conversations with him about weight loss or diet because it will become the only thing he talks to me about so I haven't mentioned BC. In the past I've always just tried to limit the amount of bread/carbs I eat there (almost everything he provides is cheap carby crap) but today i had a bit of a breakthrough and just decided I was only eating the sausage. When questioned I said I'm trying not to eat bread as it makes me feel bloated - I feel better when I don't eat bread so I'm not eating it. He accepted that and told me he never eats bread. It feels like a very small victory for me, just to be assertive and not ashamed about making changes. I've always hated talking about my weight. I've lost and gained plenty in the past and hate people commenting on my weight loss and that feeling that they're watching what I eat (probably total paranoia apart from in the case of my dad!).

We are also eating the contents of the freezer this weekend as it's going tomorrow so meals have been a bit random. Kids eating a lot of beige stuff with oven chips and my food yesterday was:

B: Greek yoghurt with double cream
L: 2 spicy sausages at my dads
T: chicken thigh fillets with mash made from celeriac and leeks

Snacked on a bit of cheese mid afternoon - I can't remember which poster recommended this but I find cheese much more appealing with a bit of butter on it so did that.

I did also snaffle a couple of oven chips while cooking. That is totally mindless for me, they're in my mouth before I even realise so need to work on that - open to suggestions if anyone has ways to beat that? It's so bloody instinctive to me.

Need to crack on with all the WATER. I know I've not cracked it yet as I'm still getting up to pee in the night so my body's not properly adapted to all the water. Not much on today apart from laundry and continued emptying of the freezer so I will focus on water today. Anyone else waiting for a storm?? The heat and humidity is really horrible now, I've had enough.

YappyCamper · 25/06/2023 07:28

@Goodiewhemper you took that well, I would have been absolutely devastated!!

YappyCamper · 25/06/2023 07:29

Can you share your cauliflower base recipe please? I've done meatza a few times but never managed to make a decent cauliflower base.

I'm going to make a cheeseburger pie this afternoon with some turkey mince that is lurking in the freezer that I'm emptying. Will see how that turns out

Random789 · 25/06/2023 08:07

Oh, @Goodiewhemper how annoying. Bad, BAD dog. I, too, would love to read that cauliflower base recepe.
Good job it wasn't the cloud bread that was snaffled. That sounded wonderful when I read about it in an earlier post so I googled it and was a bit abashed by the amount of effort involved in making it.
@YappyCamper , brilliant that you found a way of countering your dad's feeding compulsion without feeling that you owed him a conversation that would have been exasperating for you.

Random789 · 25/06/2023 08:11

I am going to go for a run this morning in all the mad heat. It might kill me, but if I live I will have a wonderful feeling of inviolable virtue (and mild nausea) that will keep me from overeating in the miserable Sunday march towards the grimness of Monday morning

OldandTired66 · 25/06/2023 08:31

So sorry to hear your news @Jenasaurus, take care 💐.
Bike ride this morning so hope forecast thunder holds off til I get home. Spent yesterday battling wildest section of the garden and am now covered in bites - no shortage of wildlife there! Today's plan; boiled egg for breakfast, picky lunch of chicken, cheese, crispy bacon, olives when I get back from ride, bbq steak and salad that we were going to have yesterday but didn't (yesterday dinner was gammon, coleslaw and salad). Lots of water. Confessions: son made chocolate brownies for a party. I had a tiny chunk about the size of my thumbnail. And ate a few raspberries from the garden, not strictly allowed this week.

venusandmars · 25/06/2023 09:28

I've rolled into Sunday without a meal plan for today. There are things in the fridge and cupboards from which I can make good choices, and I have to make a trip to M&S later so that will be dinner sorted but having no plan is a risky moment for me going off-piste.

I know there is courgette, smoked salmon, cream, so I'll maybe do a courgetti things for lunch.

But first a big glass of water.

prettybird · 25/06/2023 09:38

@Random789 and @HappiDaze great that you're now able to avoid the physical cravings and resist temptation Flowers

One of the reasons why I haven't perhaps got the Big Stick out as often as BIWI is that this particular Boot Camp, every time someone has broken The Rules, they've recognised it themselves and have worked out what is required not do so again. StarFlowers

I'll get the Big Stick out though if people start complaining about lack of progress and they have been transgressing Grin

@TheOnlyMrsW - the other way to take measurements in the absence of a tape measure is to use a piece of string. You can mark it with market pen as your measure gets smaller so that you've got a visual incentive.

@EvenmoreDisorganised - hope the Carb Flu dissipates. One way to help thole it is that it's evidence that your body is adapting. Wink

@ListenLinda Congratulations for coping with the power cut and drinking all the water.

@venusandmars - I too try and give myself different mini goals but yours are much more imaginative than mine. I may need to try one of them as it would appear that I've had my whoosh (to be fair, it was 8lb over about 10 days or so ) and so far have only lost 1/2lb this week. Which means that it's going to take longer --than I would like to meet my stated mini goal of getting below 12st

@HappiDaze - I got my psyllium husk from Amazon. Holland & Barrett is awkward for me to get to.

@pangolinfan - welcome back.

@Jenasaurus - Flowers SadI'll do a separate post to you rather than one in this long catch up post. --

@Okaygoahead Big Stick twitches Wink Hope the big lunch goes well. At least as you're catering, you can make sure that there are plenty of tasty low carb options for you Smile

@Lucienandjean - don't worry. Although coconut has "nut" in its name, it's not actually a nut Confused Apparently technically it's a drupe - but we only eat part of it. Coconut milk is actually very low carb - but just check the carb counts on the tin/carton as quite often they're sweetened Hmm. The cans I bought in Lidl on Friday (in preparation for making Golden Egg Curry ) are really low carb (off the top of my head I can't remember the figures but I'll look them up later)

@Andi2020 - what a nightmare Shock. Do they really want to add to the cost of the claim by having to make good the bathroom? Plus having a bathroom is a legal requirement isn't it for a house to be habitable, so they'd have to put you up. HmmConfused

@Goodiewhemper Roofer says that dh's "dam" of old sofa cushions and towels is the right thing to do - it just means that he has to crawl into the eaves and him needing a hip replacement too Sadevery time there is a biblical deluge to check until we can get the extra downpipes sorted.

Sorry about your pizza but congratulations on changing your habits. Smile

@YappyCamper - here's to small victories, telling your dad you don't eat bread. Halo

I have confidence that you'll break the habit of snaffling oven chips. It really is just that - a habit It will get easier as the carbs in the potatoes get less attractive to you and it just becomes routine for your to bake the oven chips for others and serving them up. For the moment, you've recognised it so it shouldn't be mindless any more.

@Random789 and @OldandTired66 - hope your run and cycle respectively go well today. @OldandTired66 - our raspberries have started to ripen. I picked a handful a few days ago and gave them to dh Halo I'm going to pick some more today and have them with the keto lemon posset I've made for tonight (I'm now officially off the 1st 2 weeks Strict Boot Camp, having started 2 weeks ago yesterday)

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