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2023 Low Carb Bootcamp - THE PREP THREAD

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BIWI · 02/01/2023 14:53

Happy New Year everyone! So far, we have 119 people signed up, so I think it's going to be a busy one.

As ever, I'm starting the prep thread a week in advance, to give you all the information you'll need to get started. If low carbing/Bootcamp is new to you, it's really important that you read all this. Even if you've done it before, it's a good idea to re-read!

I'm going to tag everyone, to ensure that people get good notice to come over to this thread. Previous experience tells me that trying to tag everyone in one go just won't work, so I'm doing it in groups of 20.

Here we go:

@Janieread
@Skiphopbump
@Henowner
@ZiggZagg
@TidyDancer
@Comfortablylesslumpy
@Cleanthatup
@Passtheturkey
@Lucienandjean
@Smorgs
@FinallyHere
@EmergentThoughts
@pinknsparkly
@baystard
@SpottyBumPony
@Eanair23
@Potas
@ThistlyPerf
@ListenLinda

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@wrongwayupandbacktofront
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BIWI · 02/01/2023 14:55

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BIWI · 02/01/2023 15:02

First, a little bit about Bootcamp, for those who don't know the history.

Back in 2011/2012 I was on a series of low carb threads, but was getting disenchanted with my own commitment, and lack of progress. I decided I needed something a bit stricter and more structured, so I came up with the 10 Bootcamp rules.

For me, the key was to make it as easy as possible to follow - albeit within fairly strict guidelines. And that mean no counting of carbs, or calories. Bootcamp rules have therefore been created with this in mind - based on the idea that if you just follow the rules, that you should lose weight.

Second, as well as wanting to lose weight, I also wanted to ensure that Bootcamp was about eating good, healthy and satisfying food. Too many times, on previous diets, I've sat with a plate of only boiled celery, because that was all the calories I had left for the day, or horribly artificial 'foods' like instant soups or Muller Lights. I didn't want weight loss to be at the expense of health.

And this is why one of the rules of Bootcamp is that the majority of your carbs should come from vegetables and salad.

I started the very first Bootcamp thread asking if anyone wanted to join me, and was gobsmacked when 80 people signed up Smile Shock At that point, I hadn't thought any further than the rules, and had no idea how it was going to work/be run.

But we quickly settled into a routine, with Bootcamps running initially for 10 weeks at a time - we've now reduced this to 8, to ensure that we keep levels of enthusiasm/compliance up.

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BIWI · 02/01/2023 15:12

As well as following the rules, you need to know which foods you won't be eating during Bootcamp. These are:

  • pasta/rice (of any colour or type)
  • bread, in any form
  • pastry
  • biscuits/crackers
  • sugar (which also includes honey, agave syrup and fruit sugar)
  • flour
  • cakes
  • full sugar fizzy drinks, and squash/cordial
  • fruit juice
  • potatoes, sweet potatoes, sweetcorn, beetroot
  • balsamic vinegar (all other vinegars are fine)
  • grains/pulses/legumes (which includes peas)
  • sweets

For the first two weeks of Bootcamp, you must also exclude:

  • all fruit
  • nuts/seeds*
  • all chocolate
  • all alcohol

*if you're a vegetarian there are different rules for you, and you can include nuts and seeds - in moderation, being careful which ones you choose - from the start

After the first two, strict weeks of Bootcamp, you can add in:

  • some fruit - berries are the best
  • some nuts/seeds - in moderation, and choosing them carefully as the carb counts can vary dramatically
  • some chocolate - dark, high cocoa-content chocolate only
  • some alcohol - dry wines, clear spirits and only occasionally!
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BIWI · 02/01/2023 15:14

Foods you can eat and enjoy:

In the main, things you generally can't eat on any other diet! Low carb means high fat, so you will be able to enjoy things like:

  • butter
  • cream
  • cheese
  • mayonnaise
  • full fat yoghurt

No light/lite or low fat anything

  • all meat/fish/seafood (although keep processed options to a minimum); fattier cuts/types of fish are encouraged
  • eggs (no restriction on how many per day/week)
  • oily dressings (especially using extra virgin olive oil/avocado oil)
  • lard/coconut oil (as well as butter) for frying food
  • LOTS of vegetables and salad
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BIWI · 02/01/2023 15:21

And so to the rules. These are the rules for the first two weeks. After that, we do relax things a little:

1. Eat three proper meals a day

You must eat breakfast. It doesn’t have to be a lot, and it doesn’t have to be absolutely first thing, but you must have something. For the rest of the day, if you’re eating enough food and especially enough fat, you shouldn’t be hungry between meals. But if you are hungry, eat something. (Hard boiled eggs make a great snack). After the first two weeks of Bootcamp we will relax this, but these two weeks are critical in terms of helping you switch easily to a low carb way of eating - and if you start to feel hungry, it makes things much harder! Eating this way will ensure that your blood sugar levels are kept stable, which will mean that you are much less likely to experience hunger. A typical high carbohydrate diet can mean that snacking is a routine part of your day. Once your blood sugar levels are stable, by eating low carb, you should find that you no longer want to snack. But the rule of thumb here is ‘if you are hungry, eat!’. (Just make sure you are only choosing low carb snacks, of course!)

2. Avoid processed foods

Focus on pure, natural protein as the basis for your meals - meat/fish/eggs. Things like sausages, ham, bacon, pre-prepared burgers etc should be avoided as much as possible. You can have them, but just not at every meal, every day.

3. Eat lots of fat

Eating fat will not make you fat. Honestly! But it will keep your appetite satisfied, and it sustains your body’s energy requirements perfectly. Fat does not provoke an insulin spike, unlike carbs which do (a lot) and protein (a little).

Fry in butter, add butter to vegetables, eat salad with a home-made vinaigrette dressing (not made with balsamic vinegar though, as this is too sweet), add mayonnaise where you can (just check the carb count on your mayo first). Eat fattier cuts of meat – e.g. pork belly, roast chicken with the skin on and/or eat the fat off your lamb chops. Absolutely no low fat/light/’Lite’ foods of any kind!

4. Make sure you are eating vegetables and salads with your food

This is where your carbs should come from, and this is non-negotiable. But choose only those vegetables that are on the allowed list, which you'll find on the spreadsheet.

Make sure that you focus on eating those vegetables that are under 5g carb per 100g, and this will ensure that your carb counts are kept low. You don’t have to weigh/count carbs – this is one of the great joys of this WOE (way of eating), but if you’re new to low carbing it can be helpful to weigh your portions of veg in the early days, just so that you know how many carbs are in the sort of portions that you like to eat.

The vegetable carb counter is helpfully colour-coded into green (eat freely), amber (go easy) and red (best avoided as much as possible), which will help you to make your choices.

5. Be careful about dairy (apart from butter, which is unlimited)

Dairy can impede weight loss for some people. If you are drinking tea/coffee with milk or cream, try to restrict yourself to max 2 cups per day. There are a lot of carbs in milk, so if you are having several cups of tea/coffee per day, you will quickly rack up your daily carb count (e.g. 1 medium latte contains more than 12g carbs!)

You may eat cheese but again, don't overdo it. Full fat yoghurt is the best way to include dairy in your diet - but beware, it does contain carbs. You should choose one that’s 10% fat – most of the supermarkets have a Greek yoghurt in their premium ranges with this amount of fat.

6. You must drink a minimum of 2 litres of water per day

The more weight you have to lose, the more water you should drink.

This is from www.low-carbdiet.co.uk/:

Water is essential to weight loss for those who follow a low carb way of eating. The minimum consumed in a day should be:

Your Weight----Litres
140lbs-----2.5
160lbs-----3.0
180lbs-----3.0
200lbs-----3.5
220lbs-----3.5
240lbs-----4.0
260lbs-----4.5
280lbs-----4.5
300lbs-----5.0
320lbs-----5.5
340lbs-----5.5
360lbs-----6.0
380lbs-----6.5
400lbs-----6.5

High levels of ketones in the blood stream can lead to a reduction in ketone production, therefore being well hydrated could aid in keeping the levels low and ketone production ongoing. Consuming enough water can have many other positive side effects, e.g. it aids your kidneys with the processing of protein, reduces the retention of water, helps with preventing constipation, and reduces the levels of ketones released by your breath, which in-turn will reduce breath odour.

However, drinking a lot of water can mean that you also need to keep an eye on your electrolyte balance. You need to make sure that you are consuming sufficient sodium and potassium. On a low carb way of eating, we should eat more salt, so make sure that you are cooking with salt and adding salt to food, if you like it.

Good, low carb, sources of potassium are spinach (raw), avocado, mushrooms, courgettes and asparagus, as well as salmon and yoghurt.

7. No alcohol

Alcohol is the easiest source of fuel for the body to burn, so it will always use this first before it starts to burn any fat - which is why you need to restrict it, especially in the first two weeks of Bootcamp, when we are encouraging the body to stop using carbs for its source of fuel and turn to fat-burning instead.

If you really can't do this - at least try and restrict it to the weekend. Vodka with soda is the best thing to drink. Or Champagne, red wine or dry white wine.

8. No fruit

Really. Seriously. Honestly. None at all. Zilch. Nada. After the first two weeks of Bootcamp you will be able to introduce certain fruits, in moderation, but at this stage fruit is simply too carby. We are also trying to break the addiction to sweet things, so cutting fruit out is part of this process. If you are getting all your carbs from vegetables and salad, you will be getting all the nutrients and fibre that you need.

9. No nuts/seeds

Although they are a good source of nutrition and contain lots of fat – which is great for us – they also contain carbohydrate and, because they’re so moreish, you can quickly end up eating a lot of carbs.

When we move to Bootcamp Light, after the first two weeks, you can re-introduce these, but be careful and go easy. On the spreadsheet, you'll find a nut carb counter, which illustrates just how much they vary in terms of their carb counts.

10. No sugar or artificial sweeteners

Sugar is an obvious ‘no no’, but artificial sweeteners are also an issue. One of the aims of this way of eating is to eat pure and natural foods, so including sweeteners is not recommended. Some people find that artificial sweeteners can impede their weight loss, and there is some suggestion that your body can respond to sweeteners as if they were sugar, by releasing more insulin - and therefore laying down fat.

Given that the aim of Bootcamp is to help us lose our sweet tooth and addiction to sweet things, then it is a good idea to avoid sweeteners altogether in this first two weeks.

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BIWI · 02/01/2023 15:25

Over the years we've collected and created loads of low carb recipes, which are grouped by ingredient type. They're supposed to be stickied, but they keep losing your stickies and, since MN re-platformed, if you have an adblocker installed, stickies don't work anyway! So here's a helpful link to the threads

They're definitely worth browsing, if you need inspiration!

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BIWI · 02/01/2023 15:26

And finally - for now anyway! - here's a thread of FAQs, which is really worth reading too

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BIWI · 02/01/2023 16:34

@DryWhiteagainW here's the prep thread as well

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TidyDancer · 02/01/2023 17:02

Thanks as always for this @BIWI!

Just a heads up, I'm not sure the tagging is working because I didn't get a notification. Happily found this thread through the sign up thread message!

Can't wait to get started now!

poorbuthappy · 02/01/2023 17:08

Thanks BIWI! I'm not on the list as my phone is not playing ball but I'm in. I've started today purely because if I leave it another week I will easily add another 10lbs to lose.
I lost 20lbs over 2 bootcamps 2020/21 and kept it off until a medical issue this year which resulted in a hysterectomy in sept. So yeah not quite back where I was but let's say I'm aiming for 10lbs off .
I'm looking forward to this!

BIWI · 02/01/2023 17:14

Thanks for letting me know @TidyDancer! I think it's because I've c+p a list and that seems to prevent the tagging formatting for some reason Confused

@poorbuthappy I'll add you to the list

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BIWI · 02/01/2023 17:16

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@Lucienandjean
@Smorgs
@FinallyHere
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BIWI · 02/01/2023 17:17

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BIWI · 02/01/2023 17:22

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BIWI · 02/01/2023 17:22

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TidyDancer · 02/01/2023 17:25

BIWI · 02/01/2023 17:14

Thanks for letting me know @TidyDancer! I think it's because I've c+p a list and that seems to prevent the tagging formatting for some reason Confused

@poorbuthappy I'll add you to the list

I got it this time so I think that's worked!

Thank you!

BIWI · 02/01/2023 17:27

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BIWI · 02/01/2023 17:28

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BIWI · 02/01/2023 17:29

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BIWI · 02/01/2023 17:30

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BIWI · 02/01/2023 17:31

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BIWI · 02/01/2023 17:32

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