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Low-carb bootcamp

Join discussions about low-carb bootcamp plans, meals and progress. Consider speaking to a medical professional before starting any diet.

Summer Low Carb mini-Bootcamp preparation thread

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StuntNun · 26/07/2021 15:56

Preparation for Bootcamp

Our mini-Bootcamp starts on Monday 2nd August and runs for six weeks. If you are new to eating low carb then I suggest you start with two weeks of strict Bootcamp followed by four weeks of Bootcamp Light. If you are already eating low carb then you either start with two weeks of strict Bootcamp or stick with Bootcamp Light for the whole six weeks.

To get ready for next week I suggest you get rid of any sugary treats you have around the house. Eat them / get your friends and family to eat them / donate them to the food bank, whatever it takes but try and get them out of the house so you won’t be tempted. If you have to keep some sugary foods in the house for family members or housemates then put them out of sight if possible so there’s less temptation. Or if you’re the main food shopper for the house then buy your least favourite foods, for example I will not ever eat a custard cream biscuit no matter how much I’m craving carbs whereas I might not be safe around chocolate digestives!

The other way you can prepare is by meal planning for next week. Plan out your meals and don’t forget to plan for snacks if you’re new to low carbing. There will be more advice in the following posts on this thread and there’s lots of information on the Spreadsheet of Fabulousness.

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StuntNun · 26/07/2021 15:57

How does eating low carb work?

Carbohydrates are one of the three “macronutrients” that we eat – the others are protein and fats. Carbohydrates are sugars (table sugar, fructose in fruit, lactose in milk) and starches (bread, pasta, cereals.) All carbohydrates break down to simple sugars in the body. Going low carb involves reducing the amount of carbs that we eat AND increasing the amount of fat that we eat while keeping protein intake the same. Effectively this means cutting out sugary and starchy foods, fruit and most root vegetables and eating more low carb vegetables. Note that this is not a low-fat diet and you are expected to increase your fat intake from healthy sources such as full-fat dairy, the natural fat in meats, and by using olive oil or animal fats to prepare your food.

When we cut carbs then our levels of insulin, the hunger hormone, become lower and much more stable. This allows fat to flow freely out of fat cells and be used as an energy source. The process of adapting to a low carb diet takes a couple of weeks and after this your appetite naturally reduces and your calorie intake spontaneously reduces. So you lose weight without feeling hungry. You may also experience better energy levels through the day as you have a steady source of energy from your body fat rather than relying on the glucose from your food.

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StuntNun · 26/07/2021 15:57

Bootcamp Rules – the first two weeks only

1. Eat three proper meals a day
In the first two weeks of Bootcamp you must eat breakfast. It doesn’t have to be a lot, and it doesn’t have to be absolutely first thing, but you must have something. For the rest of the day, if you’re eating enough food then you shouldn’t be hungry between meals. But if you are hungry, eat something. (Hard boiled eggs make a great snack).

After the first two weeks of Bootcamp we will relax this, but these two weeks are critical in terms of helping you switch easily to a low carb way of eating - and if you start to feel hungry, it makes things much harder! Eating this way will ensure that your blood sugar levels are kept stable, which will mean that you are much less likely to experience hunger.

A typical high carbohydrate diet can mean that snacking is a routine part of your day. Once your blood sugar levels are stable, by eating low carb, you should find that you no longer want to snack. But the rule of thumb here is ‘if you are hungry, eat!’. (Just make sure you are only choosing low carb snacks, of course!)

2. Avoid processed foods
Focus on pure, natural protein as the basis for your meals - meat/fish/eggs. Things like sausages, ham, bacon, pre-prepared burgers etc should be avoided as much as possible. You can have them, but just not every day. Avoid foods marketed as low carb, e.g. Atkins bars.

3. Eat lots of fat
Eating fat will not make you fat. Honestly! But it will keep your appetite satisfied, and it sustains your body’s energy requirements perfectly. Fat does not provoke an insulin spike, unlike carbs which do (a lot) and protein (a little). Fry in olive or coconut oil or lard or butter, add butter to vegetables, eat salad with a home-made oily dressing (not made with balsamic vinegar though, as this is too sweet), add mayonnaise where you can (just check the carb count on your mayo first). Eat fattier cuts of meat e.g. pork belly, roast chicken with the skin on and/or eat the fat off your lamb chops. Absolutely no low fat/light foods of any kind!

4. Make sure you are eating plenty of vegetables and salad
This is where your carbs should come from, and this is non-negotiable. But choose only those vegetables that are under 4g carbs per 100g - there is a list of vegetable carb counts on the spreadsheet. If you focus on eating those vegetables that are 5g carb per 100g or less, this will ensure that your carb counts are kept low. You don’t have to weigh/count carbs – this is one of the great joys of this WOE (way of eating), but if you’re new to low carbing it can be helpful to weigh your portions of veg in the early days, just so that you know how many carbs are in the sort of portions that you like to eat. (There's also a handy carb counter on the spreadsheet that will calculate the carbs for you)

5. Be careful about dairy (apart from butter, which is unlimited)
Dairy can impede weight loss for some people. If you are drinking tea/coffee with milk or cream, try to restrict yourself to max 2 cups per day. There are a lot of carbs in milk, so if you are having several cups of tea/coffee per day, you will quickly rack up your daily carb count (e.g. 1 medium latte contains more than 12g carbs!) You may eat cheese but again, don't overdo it. Full fat yoghurt is the best way to include dairy in your diet - but beware, it does contain carbs. Full fat Greek (not Greek-style) is the best and most supermarkets have an own brand Greek yogurt.

6. You must drink a minimum of 2 litres of water per day
Water is essential to weight loss. Your 2 litres can include at most two caffeinated drinks. BIWI additionally suggests the following water intake depending on your weight:

Your Weight----Litres
140lbs-----2.5
160lbs-----3.0
180lbs-----3.0
200lbs-----3.5
220lbs-----3.5
240lbs-----4.0
260lbs-----4.5
280lbs-----4.5
300lbs-----5.0
320lbs-----5.5
340lbs-----5.5
360lbs-----6.0
380lbs-----6.5
400lbs-----6.5

High levels of ketones in the blood stream can lead to a reduction in ketone production, therefore being well hydrated could aid in keeping the levels low and ketone production ongoing. Consuming enough water can have many other positive side effects: aids your kidneys with the processing of protein, reduces the retention of water, helps with preventing constipation, and reduces the levels of ketones released by your breath, which in-turn will reduce breath odour.

However, drinking a lot of water can mean that you also need to keep an eye on your electrolyte balance. You need to make sure that you are consuming sufficient sodium and potassium. On a low carb diet we need to eat more salt, so make sure that you are cooking with salt and adding salt to food, if you like it. Good, low carb, sources of potassium are spinach (raw), avocado, mushrooms, courgettes and asparagus, as well as salmon and yoghurt.

7. No alcohol
Alcohol is the easiest source of fuel for the body to burn, so it will always use this first before it starts to burn any fat - which is why you need to restrict it, especially in the first two weeks of Bootcamp, when we are encouraging the body to stop using carbs for its source of fuel and turn to fat-burning instead. If you really can't do this - at least try and restrict it to the weekend. Vodka with soda is the best thing to drink. Or Champagne, red wine or dry white wine.

8. No fruit
Really. Seriously. Honestly. None at all. Zilch. Nada. After the first two weeks of Bootcamp you will be able to introduce certain fruits, but at this stage fruit is simply too carby. We are also trying to break the addiction to sweet things, so cutting fruit out is part of this process. If you are getting all your carbs from vegetables and salad, you will be getting all the nutrients and fibre that you need.

9. No nuts/seeds
They make a great snack, but it’s also very easy to eat large quantities of them very quickly, so you can consume way too many carbs this way. (It should also go without saying that we don't eat any crisps or other salty snacks on Bootcamp!)

10. No sugar or artificial sweeteners
Sugar is an obvious ‘no no’, but artificial sweeteners are also an issue. One of the aims of this way of eating is to eat pure and natural foods, so including sweeteners is not recommended. Some people find that artificial sweeteners can impede their weight loss, and there is some suggestion that your body can respond to sweeteners as if they were sugar, by releasing more insulin - and therefore laying down fat. Given that the aim of Bootcamp is to help us lose our sweet tooth and addiction to sweet things, then it is a good idea to avoid sweeteners altogether in this first two weeks.

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StuntNun · 26/07/2021 15:59

Bootcamp Light Rules

1. Eat when you are hungry
Be guided by your appetite. You won’t need as many snacks as at the start of Bootcamp and you may find yourself skipping or delaying meal times. Make sure you don’t let yourself get too hungry or you may end up eating something carby. Aim to eat two to four times a day depending on what works best for you.

2. Avoid processed foods

3. Eat lots of fat

4. Make sure you are eating plenty of vegetables and salad

5. Be careful about dairy (apart from butter, which is unlimited)

6. You must drink a minimum of 2 litres of water per day

7. Alcohol is allowed occasionally
Wine and champagne are low carb and can be made into a spritzer with soda water or sparkling water. Clear spirits and soda water are carb-free. For tonic water, decide which is the lesser of two evils: the artificial sweeteners in slimline, or the sugar in light tonics such as Fever Tree. Remember that alcohol calories are always burned first so alcohol stops fat burning. It’s also empty calories so alcohol will slow down your weight loss. My advice is to set yourself a limit, e.g. only x units per week, or only on x nights per week.

8. Up to one portion of fruit per day
Strawberries, raspberries and blackberries are lowest carb and a portion is 50-100g. If there is any fruit you’re particularly missing then look it up on Diet Doctor because it might be okay for an occasional treat.

9. Nuts and seeds in small quantities
Nuts are easy to overeat and a typical bag is 600 calories! I suggest weighing out 1-2 ounces at first so that you can learn how much a portion is - it’s probably much smaller than you think. Avoid cashews and pistachios which are high carb. Pecans and Brazil nuts are lowest carb, followed by macadamia, walnuts, hazelnuts, peanuts and almonds. Pumpkin seeds, pine nuts, chia seeds and sunflower seeds are also allowed in small quantities.

10. No sugar except dark chocolate, and limit artificial sweeteners
You can have a small amount of dark chocolate (70% cocoa or higher) on Bootcamp Light; I suggest no more than 20g per day. If you would like to experiment with low carb baking using sweeteners instead of sugar there are lots of recipes out there to try. Some people respond to artificial sweeteners as if they were sugar so you’ll need to be guided by how you feel as they may make you more hungry or cause cravings.

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StuntNun · 26/07/2021 15:59

Meal planning

There are recipe threads for meat, fish/seafood, desserts and vegetarian recipes in the Low Carb Bootcamp topic on Mumsnet and here are a few suggestions to get you started.

Breakfasts
Scrambled eggs
Omelette
Bacon and eggs
Avocado and smoked salmon
Full-fat Greek yogurt (should be 10% fat) – add a little double cream and/or vanilla essence for sweetness
“Egg in a cup” (boiled eggs mashed with butter in a mug)
Leftovers from the night before

Lunches
Salad with oil and vinegar vinaigrette and/or mayo
Low carb soup (there are plenty of recipes on the recipe threads)
Omelette or frittata
Scrambled eggs (if you didn’t have them for breakfast!)

Dinners
Curry with cauliflower rice
Shepherd’s pie topped with mashed swede
Sausages and celeriac mash
Courgetti bolognese
Bunless burger or cheeseburger plus salad
Cauliflower or Fathead pizza
Any “meat and two veg” meal with extra veggies instead of potatoes plus don’t forget to add fat by cooking your veg in olive oil or adding butter afterwards

Vegetable side dishes
Roasted broccoli
Braised cabbage
Cauli rice
Celeriac mash or chips
Braised celery
Courgettes
Green beans
Kale
Leeks
Mushrooms
Swede/turnip

Snacks
Boiled eggs (I like to boil extra at breakfast and keep some in the fridge for snacks with a little mayo)
Celery and cucumber sticks with cream cheese as a dip
Ham and cream cheese roll ups (spread a slice of ham with cream cheese and roll into a tube)
Peperami or other cured meat
String cheese or other snack cheese
Nuts or dark chocolate – only on Bootcamp Light and only in small quantities

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StuntNun · 26/07/2021 16:00

Low carb shopping list suggestions

Note that these are only suggestions for your shopping list – don’t buy everything here!

Drinks
Coffee – cream is lower carb than milk
Herbal or fruit teas
Tea – unsweetened almond, oat milk etc. are lower carb then cow’s milk
Water / sparkling water / mineral water

Salad vegetables
Baby spinach
Celery
Cucumber
Lettuces
Radishes
Tomatoes

Side vegetables
Asparagus
Aubergine
Avocado
Bok choi
Broccoli
Brussels sprouts (ask me about shoogling Wink)
Cabbage
Cauliflower
Celeriac
Courgette
Green beans
Greens
Kale
Leeks
Mushrooms
Peppers (green are lowest carb)
Shallots (less carby than onions)
Spinach
Swede
Swiss chard

Fruits – no more than once a day and only on Bootcamp Light

Blackberries
Blueberries
Cherries
Lemons
Raspberries
Strawberries

Protein

Bacon, sausages and ham (processed so don’t eat these too often)
Beef
Chicken (preferably drumsticks, thighs and wings)
Cooked meats
Cured meats and jerky (again processed so don’t eat too often)
Eggs
Game
Lamb
Pork
Prawns and other seafood
Salmon
Tuna
White fish
N.B. turkey is very low fat and isn’t ideal for a low carb way of eating.

Dairy
Cheese in blocks (any type but make sure to check the carb count)
Cheese in snack size portions (again, check the carb count)
Double cream
Milk (limit to small amounts in tea or coffee)
Milk alternatives such as almond or oat (make sure it’s unsweetened)
Mayonnaise
Sour cream
Full-fat Greek yogurt (10% fat)

Fats
Avocado oil
Beef dripping
Butter
Coconut oil
Duck or goose fat
Ghee
Lard
Nut oils
Olive oil (light for cooking, extra virgin for salad dressing)

Cupboard foods
Bouillon or stock (helps with “carb flu” headaches and fatigue during the first couple of weeks)
Dark chocolate 70% cocoa solids or higher – ONLY DURING BOOTCAMP LIGHT
Nut butters – ONLY DURING BOOTCAMP LIGHT
Olives
Pork crackling (check ingredients as some contain sugars such as dextrose)
Seeds such as pine nuts, pumpkin, sunflower – ONLY DURING BOOTCAMP LIGHT
Tinned tomatoes (carb counts vary so check labels for the lowest one)
Vinegar for salad dressing (not balsamic which is carby)

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StuntNun · 26/07/2021 16:00

Getting started on Monday

You have a few tasks to do on Monday when we get started. If you’re new to Bootcamp then make sure to take a “before” photo. It’s amazing to be able to see how much progress you’ve made. Also, take some measurements – your waist at the very least, although you may also want to measure your bust, hips… even your wrists! It’s possible to lose inches without losing weight so measurements can really help to keep you on track.

There are two good ways to ensure good results: log your meals; and join in the chat on the weekly Bootcamp threads. Some people choose to post their food and drink each day on the threads or you can write them down in a notebook, log them on the notes app on your phone… whatever works for you. Logging your meals really helps you to stay on track and it also means that more experienced Bootcampers can chip in with suggestions. Joining in the chat also makes you more likely to succeed at changing your habits and losing weight – just two of the benefits of the peer support you’ll receive on Bootcamp.

Finally, if you have any questions then PLEASE DO ASK! It’s a good idea to read through the threads first in case your question has already been answered. But the Bootcamp threads are full of helpful people and some of us have been around for YEARS! So whatever question or issue you have I can guarantee someone will know the answer. We’re a friendly bunch and we really want you to succeed.

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BobbinThreadbare123 · 26/07/2021 16:38

Please can I join? I did Fast 800 from Nov 2020-Mar 2021 and lost 7 kg. I had a period of working away/injury and have scoffed 3 kg back on Blush. I am at the higher end of healthy BMI and I look better in the middle of it. I think I need some accountability!

venusandmars · 26/07/2021 16:45

Thanks for all of that @StuntNun - great info for anyone who is getting ready to start, and a great reminder for the rest of us.

Only 3 comments:

  • think out of the box particularly the cereal box on breakfast. I travelled in Vietnam and they often had soup for breakfast. It's quick (if you've got a portion in the fridge) and amazingly comforting in cooler weather. I've found that you can make soup out of many left over meals e.g. cauliflower curry, just whizz it in a blender with a bit of stock or water.
  • Rhubarb! one of the other fruits you can have (although it is technically a vegetable). I add freshly grated ginger, a bit of orange zest, then loads of whipped cream to make a rhubarb fool. You will get used to the flavour and tartness of doing it with almost no sugar.
  • the longer you go without sugar the more you will grow to detest it. I now find almost all puddings and cakes are revoltingly sweet. It's quite a revelation when it first happens and you make a face like a child who has licked a lemon Grin
HarrietDVane · 26/07/2021 16:58

Thank you @StuntNun - lots of useful info there! I've been low carbing for a while so boot camp shouldn't be too painful (boot camp light is pretty much what I'm doing now).

StuntNun · 26/07/2021 17:12

@BobbinThreadbare123 if you want to be on the spreadsheet then you can sign up on this thread.

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BobbinThreadbare123 · 26/07/2021 17:40

Thanks @StuntNun Smile

Kerplunkk · 26/07/2021 21:22

Thanks @StuntNun

Rayna37 · 27/07/2021 09:59

I did some prep on Friday- happened to do a big shop after work on Friday which is unusual for me and Waitrose had loads of meat and some fish heavily reduced so I have filled the freezer! I've also done well buying reduced legs of lamb and joints of beef that haven't sold recently due to it being so hot no-one wants to cook a roast!

FusionChefGeoff · 27/07/2021 17:16

@StuntNun can I check fruit pls? Think the sheet lists cantaloupe and honeydew melon as under 5g per 100g so are they also ok for light?

StuntNun · 27/07/2021 17:50

@FusionChefGeoff I wonder whether we should be more flexible about fruits as there are quite a few that are lowish carb that aren't usually recommended on low carb diets, melons being a prime example. On the other hand I don't know how accurate the carb counts are for fruit since it's going to vary a lot between different fruits and depending on the growing conditions. Also portion size is going to be critical. A pack of prepared melon from Asda weighs 400g and I'm pretty sure I could eat one of those packs all on my own which would be 13.6g of carbs in total! When we reintroduce fruits in Bootcamp Light we also add nuts and dark chocolate back in. However if you start having fruit and nuts and dark chocolate every day then your carb intake is going to rise dramatically and it will likely affect your weight loss. So my suggestion would be to only have one of these three foods each day, and to be very careful with portion sizes. Nuts and chocolate are high calorie (100g of almonds are 630 calories, 100g of 70% chocolate is 566 calories and 34g carbs!)

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Carrott21 · 27/07/2021 18:06

I have literally never eaten this way. I usually calorie count. I'm a veggie which has put me off historically. I'm going to do this for two weeks and see what happens.

StuntNun · 27/07/2021 18:28

@Carrott21 there are lots of veggie recipes on the recipe thread and apparently Rose Elliott's low carb cookbook is good. Vegetarians can have more leeway with pulses, tofu and Quorn (although this is highly processed) to make sure you're getting enough protein, but you do need to keep an eye on carb counts and portion sizes.

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Kerplunkk · 27/07/2021 21:57

WRT to the spreadsheet….will you add all the names on or do we need to do this ourselves? Also will we add our weights in or add onto the thread?
Not done boot camp before so not sure of the rules Smile

FusionChefGeoff · 28/07/2021 00:00

@Carrott21 you should see a big woosh in first 2 weeks but then it famously stalls for a good few weeks whilst you adapt before starting off at a steady pace again - so just be prepared for that and it doesn't mean it's not working!

Carrott21 · 28/07/2021 06:02

Thank you. I need to meal plan all of this.

TidyDancer · 28/07/2021 06:40

Thanks for starting this thread, I'm already on the spreadsheet but this is really handy to have a prep thread.

I'm pescatarian and have a lot to lose so I'm hoping this will be a good kickstart and motivation!

One question about eggs, is there a limit on what we can/should have per day?

StuntNun · 28/07/2021 07:38

@TidyDancer eggs are unlimited. I ate nine in one day once! 

@Kerplunkk your user names will be on the spreadsheet on Monday for you to log your weight. If you can't access it for any reason then you can post on the current Bootcamp thread (a new one is started each Monday) and ask someone to add it for you. I have an iPhone and use the Google Sheets app to access the spreadsheet but I know some people sometimes can't get into it.

@Carrott21 people often see a substantial loss in the first two weeks of Bootcamp, although it's not unknown for people to occasionally be slow to loose weight or even to see a weight gain! A lot depends on how you were eating before, your diet history, and whether you have any underlying hormonal issues. If you've been eating a pretty standard diet prior to starting Bootcamp then you might expect to lose several pounds in the first two weeks. If you've been doing a calorie-controlled diet then that can slow weight loss because your body will initially replace lost muscle mass and it takes time to rev your metabolism back up to normal levels. If you have an undiagnosed thyroid issue or PCOS then it can take longer before weight loss get started. If you've just been doing the Fast800 or a similar massively-restricted calorie diet then you may well gain weight on Bootcamp because your body has to recover from the calorie deprivation. But in general, most people will see a big loss in the first week and then another pound or two in the second week. Between weeks 3 and 5 there is often a weight-loss stall caused by water retention masking the fat loss so you really need to do the whole six weeks to be sure how Bootcamp will work for you.

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TidyDancer · 28/07/2021 07:41

Oh fab, thank you so much @StuntNun! That makes my life a hell of a lot easier for this!

Carrott21 · 28/07/2021 08:33

Thanks for the info. I've been living on bread, cakes and chocolate, so hoping for a good loss!! Just need to plan massively.

colouringindoors · 28/07/2021 13:39

Thanks that's really useful.

Some other nice easy lunches:

Avocado and prawns with low carb mayo mixed with little low carb tom puree
Tomato and Mozzarella salad.

I might try and start tomorrow as I know I'll have 3 days next week when i may not be able to stick to strict bootcamp. Really want to loose inches on waist as well as lb.