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Low-carb bootcamp

Week 8 - Low Carb Bootcamp - only 3 weeks to go!

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BIWI · 02/07/2018 07:34

Morning all.

Here, hopefully, is the Spreadsheet of Fabulousness Let's just hope this one works Smile

So we have three weeks left. Still time to see a good loss before our final weigh-in. This weather, I think, makes it all easier - so much easier to choose a salad when it's hot. And barbecues are perfect for low carbing (if you're a meat eater, of course!)

We had a barbecue yesterday and we had:

home-made chilli burgers (12% fat organic mince, chopped shallot, chopped red chilli, dried oregano and salt and pepper, whizzed up in the processor to combine). I had mine without the bun, obviously!

chicken thighs, skin-on, that had been marinated in a spice mix (ground cumin, ground coriander, ground ginger, turmeric, chilli powder, oregano, salt and pepper, all mixed in with olive oil and fresh lime juice to make a paste that was then rubbed all over the chicken)

coconut cod** - a lovely recipe I found in one of my barbecue books. Fish marinated in coconut cream, that had been infused with lime, garlic, ginger, shallot and lime juice - bring all that to the boil and simmer for around 10 minutes; cool and then use as a marinade for the fish, which you then cook on the barbecue in a foil parcel.

And sausages. Because you can't have a barbecue without sausages!

Anyway, plenty left over, so I'm taking chicken and sausages to work for my lunch.

Hope everyone has a good week.

Great to hear about your ideal blood pressure, @chocchip88!

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LeapinLizards · 07/07/2018 18:58

On the bright side, at least it's better being single at 10 stone than 11stone 12!

^This!!!!

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Destinysdaughter · 07/07/2018 19:03

😀

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Waswittyonce · 07/07/2018 19:30

I've just had another nsv. My knickers fell down going round Tesco BlushGrin

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Destinysdaughter · 07/07/2018 20:04

Ha that's funny! But a bit embarrassing...😀

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Rshard · 07/07/2018 20:58

Ha ha waswitty, time for some new ones??

Nice to hear you’re planning the rest of your life destinys.

All this hot weather has made me realise (again) how good it is to be lighter and healthier.

Thanks for thinking of us in your trip planning BIWI, have a good trip

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Destinysdaughter · 07/07/2018 21:04

One of the things I'm going to do is do the exercises in the book, Your Best Year Yet. Basically it's looking over your last year and analysing both your successes and your failures and what you learnt from them . I wanted to do it together with my DP, but we never got round to it. I've done it before so think it's time to do it again. Including my success in this WOE!

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BlackMozart · 07/07/2018 22:48

Go destinys. That’s a great idea.

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Laska5772 · 08/07/2018 07:41

Well as we go into another week where I an luckily still on holiday and cant weigh in I have resorted to trying on a pair of size 10 fat face chino shorts to gauge any weight gain.. Am pleased to report that although they are a bit snug they do up and I can sit down in them Grin.. These are not my shorts btw but my v slim DHs ( who often finds mens small shorts just too big ! So annoying !! Grrr)...- its ok they look unisex enoughGrin! Anyway v pleased at this .I dont reckon id have actually lost any weight but hoping to have maintained my14lb BC loss. Apaart from yesterday when a muddle up resulted in me being served some baked butter beans for dinner along with my grilled fish ( Love these so couldnt resist a couple of largish spoon fulls ) I have stayed LC mostly grilled meats and fish but, but on the moderate side. Lots of tomatoes , a little fruit and a fair amount of Wine has been had.. one more week of holiday to go . Hoping my' return home' WI monday week will be ok

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LeapinLizards · 08/07/2018 07:58

It sounds like you're doing really well @Laskia5772. Hope you're having a lovely time.

@waswittyonce and the knickers 😳. How on earth did that happen?? And how did you respond? Simply step out of them, pick them up & tuck in a bag then continue shopping? Grin

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Rayna37 · 08/07/2018 10:49

Just setting off for France so I'll be away from the scales until Tues next week, and haven't weighed for a couple of days uncharacteristically due to advanced holiday mode. Won't go completely wild but there'll certainly be a lot more carbs than usual! Egg fast on the horizon for the last few days of this BC.

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Lonesurvivor · 08/07/2018 13:11

destinydaughter you're sounding a little more upbeatFlowers, onwards and upwards, except in the weight department of course.

I found myself thinking this morning that if I lose another 4 pounds before the end of bootcamp I'll have hit the 3 stone mark.
It's like it's ingrained into me to set myself up for a fall, expecting 4 pounds in two weeks at this stage is unrealistic.
prettybird I'm in awe of how you've ended up off plan for a while and managed to get back on relatively quickly and continue on.
I can very much be all or nothing and it's helpful to see that that it doesn't have to be that way.
leapinglizard I weight every day too which has its pros and cons. I like seeing patterns in how my body fluctuates and coming to terms with the science behind it. I hate seeing unexplained fluctuations of 2 pounds and over that messes with my head. Overall weighing regularly is more helpful to me than not as it stops me deluding myself how fast the weigh will come off but occasionally that scale has too much negative power all given to it by moiConfused

I was out last night and decided in advance to choose wisely but more freely than I have been. It was just as well because the menu made the rules impossible to follow.
I only went for a main course, ordered extra veg and ate half of my side of noodles.
I had wine and a G&T, slimline of course.
I feel I've set myself a little test by knowingly going off plan and I've passed it by getting back on track today!

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ilovecherries · 08/07/2018 13:19

Lone survivor do you mind me asking why you can't stand the idea of low carb baking?

Nope, don’t mind at all, but keep in mind this is a personal response, and I know many feel differently about it.

At its simplest, I find it quite triggering. I don’t like recipes or pictures of low carb baking, so I avoid them in cookery books, I skip righ past them on here. Given that sugars and starches got me here in the first place, I have zero desire to emulate that look or mouth feel with alternative versions.

Further, nothing has convinced me that low carb baking and low fat cooking aren’t the same side of the coin (for me), just dressed differently. I spent decades of my life knowing the fat grams of everything, and put huge effort into trying to make extremely low fat food taste nice. There is probably no food I don’t know the fat grams of. Low carb baking would seem to require the same effort and diligence, and the same reliance on manufactured ‘food’, that low fat food used to require. In my mind, stevia and fake flours are no different from the one cal fat sprays I used in the past. They are used to make something attractive and to pretend that one isn’t being deprived. For me, having lost a shit ton of weight in the last year, it’s vital that I don’t look at food as treats or rewards, or celebratory. I like it to be good and tasty, obviously, because my body deserves that, but it doesn’t need something that is emulating the very thing that made me sick in the first place. In the last year, I’ve learned that it’s not only about WHAT I eat, but also how I feel about eating it. I’m working hard to get to a place where food is good quality fuel. Good quality protein, masses of veg, good quality fat. It’s there to nourish me, to give me energy, to run my body well. It’s not there to cheer me up, comfort me, calm me down, replace sex, keep me company etc etc. Yet at one time I probably expected it to do all those things. Losing weight has given me headspace to think about what I want to feel about food, rather than being in the thrall of something that I had a constant love hate relationship with. I used to be in a constant push/pull battle with food, and it’s so liberating not to feel like that any more. For me, I needed to put some hard boundaries - what I believe 12 step programmes call ‘bright lines’ around certain foodstuffs. Anything that looks like a cake or dessert is so far over these boundaries that I don’t even relate to them any more. I know that some veg and fruits will sit nearer the boundary and I might hope that some day I will feel well enough to move the boundary a little further out. But the other stuff - nope, that’s so far off piste I don’t see it.

You can see I feel strongly about thisWink

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ilovecherries · 08/07/2018 13:19

Geez, that was practically a book! Sorry!

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prettybird · 08/07/2018 13:28

Talking about daily fluctuations (I too weigh daily), this morning I was nearly 3lb up Shock

I'm hoping it was just fluid retention as a result of being a bit queasy last night after drinking some cucumber water that I'd drained from salted grated cucumber (I was making tzatziki) and it turned out to be very salty Envy

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qumquat · 08/07/2018 13:38

I agree with you ilove. I also find 'fake' cakes etc just make me miss the really thing as they are never quite as tasty. Whereas normally I don't miss them at all as I focus on how ill and unhappy they made me.

I know that for some people though they are very helpful and help make this woe sustainable.

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m0therofdragons · 08/07/2018 13:40

@ilovecherries I totally get where you're coming from. I'm avoiding all cake etc at the moment and have no intention of finding alternatives. I'd like to get to my happy weight and hope that by then I'll be strong enough/have a better relationship with food to be able to have a small piece of cake without going back for more and more and then wanting it every day.

After yesterday's pimms and champagne I am back on track and have so little appetite due to the weather it's pretty easy to have a good day. Drinking lots of fluids so I'm hopeful I'll stay at 10 13 tomorrow. If not then I will have learned how much alcohol affects my efforts!

Happy Sunday everyone!

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Rshard · 08/07/2018 14:07

You def sound more positive destinys, I like the idea of looking back and reflecting.

I do this lone, I have to try really hard not too.

Have a great holiday rayna

Really interesting to read about the baking thing ilove and qumquat. I’m not a fan of ‘fake’ things either but totally get what an aid they are to others. Another example of how flexible this woe is and suits so many of us, albeit in different ways.

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Lonesurvivor · 08/07/2018 14:11

Ilovecherries, that wasn't a book, I enjoy hearing how other people feel. I think reading different opinions helps those of us finding our way to find where best we sit.
On Sw/ww I could never see the point in trying to recreate versions of treats. To me the tasted sub standard and been able to eat as much as you liked made no sense.
On this plan I make a bread which I enjoy a once in the day, not every or even most days though. Bread has never been an issue for me though.
Baked goods on the other hand are. I'm actually glad the bit of experimenting I did with low carb baking wasn't great because finding a good scone/biscuit recipe would be a trigger for me.
I'm more at peace with this plan long term now knowing I can occasionally have a meal with food that's not on plan and not lose my head and get back on plan.

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BlackMozart · 08/07/2018 16:20

I think your words are very wise ilove and I notice I am still finding this aspect of the lchf woe - letting go of my reliance on, in my case, wine and dark chocolate - very very difficult.
I agree in the main about fake versions being not worth it. I never was actually a great cake eater but Brownies were my downfall. I am now cured of that as they’re far too sugary for me, and I haven’t found yet a good enough substitute for their characteristic squidge so I have stopped making them. I have made some for DS today and a low carb choc cake, which in contrast does pass the “is it worth it test?’” But it will go in the freezer cut into small slices for ‘emergencies. Even as I write this I know I need to change my behaviour...sigh.

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BlackMozart · 08/07/2018 16:21

Stopped making them, or buying them for me obvs. DS loves them.

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Waswittyonce · 08/07/2018 18:38

@LeapinLizards luckily I was wearing a long dress and it was a big store with a loo. I felt them slowly sliding down and manage to sort of grip them with my knees until I got to safety. They then went in my bag and I carried on shopping Grin

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Lonesurvivor · 08/07/2018 19:43

GrinGrin you'll need to size down in your undies waswitty

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m0therofdragons · 08/07/2018 19:56

Ooops, went paddling in the village stream and ended up in the pub with half a thatchers in my hand. Tomorrow isn't going to go well Blush

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BIWI · 08/07/2018 20:45
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StuntNun · 09/07/2018 10:27

I'm posting on the old thread because I'm replying to Cherries post about low carb baking. All new messages should go on the Week 9 chat thread rather than here.

Like Cherries I am not a fan of low carb versions of high carb foods such as bread and cakes. I don't think artificial sweeteners are good for us, to the point that I've switched back from diet tonic water to sugar-sweetened tonic water in my occasional G&T. I also think the caloric density of almond flour, coconut flour, flaxseed etc. is likely to cause problems for most people. I believe we should aspire to a diet of real unprocessed foods: meat, fish, eggs, full-fat dairy, vegetables and low carb fruits. However I still think low carb bread and cakes are okay. When you start eating low carb you're making a huge change to eating habits that have developed over decades. It isn't easy. If it was easy then we wouldn't need the Bootcamp threads. Carby temptation is everywhere and it's easy to fall off the wagon. So if a slice of low carb bread is going to make it easier for you to stick to the Bootcamp rules then do it! If it's your birthday and your kids are insisting on birthday cake... make a low carb birthday cake that you can enjoy with them. If you're hosting a dinner party then make a low carb crumble or chocolate mousse that everyone can eat. In my experience the longer you eat low carb, the more it becomes a simple habit. Those carby foods that you thought you couldn't live without become irrelevant over time. You will continue to have a few foods that you make an exception for; I find panna cotta just about impossible to resist. But the bottom line is, you have to be enjoying your food to be able to eat low carb in the long-term.

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