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Low-carb bootcamp

Join discussions about low-carb bootcamp plans, meals and progress. Consider speaking to a medical professional before starting any diet.

Help with the basics please

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hayser33 · 05/02/2018 19:50

Hi
Ive tried low carbing before but I still felt I was eating too much and it felt bad to be having cheese etc.
Can someone guide me as to the following
-How much cheese in a day is appropriate?
B-Cream in coffee? I drink alot of coffee..mainly decaff(around 6 cups a day)

  • Sauages-so if I get hecks or black farmers should i only have 2 like I would when eating normally?
-fruit? Heard different things but are the berries ok with a bit of double cream ie,Strawberry or raspberries etc or shall I avoid altogether -Ham, would a couple slices of ham or sliced beed be ok with full fat cream cheese and a bit of rocket lettuce rolled up as a lunch? F-what about veg? Is it mainly green veg that is best to have ie, spinach kale broccoli leeks .. but no carrots swede etc? -how much is too much protein ?when low carbing in past I felt I've ate too much meat . -how can I get more fat in my diet when I won't eat chicken skin etc and I don't eat things like belly pork ? If anyone can help me with these questions I'd be so grateful. I have read the boot camp rules bußt I kind of need specific measurement of things particularly the cheese cream etc as I know i definatley over do on that I think !. I sometimes have wine on weekends to lose weight should I cut it out completely ( ive read dry wine is lower Carb than most but shall I not bother) I've got at least 3 stone to lose if not 4 . (Getting married next year).I am really struggling at the momentI have 4 children (recently had a baby) ,I'm always peckish and pick at stuff alot .I'm a bit postnatally depressed (am on anti depressents) too so tend to eat for comfort I'm driving myself mad and I actually have a sore patch where my stomach folds over. .not happy tonight ! I'm going to start swimming on weds will try to go a couple times a week . Thanks anyone who reply so I appreciate it.
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prettybird · 06/02/2018 08:45

If you read the Boot Camp Rules and some of the Boot Camp threads (the Week 1 one is probably the best for you as it will answer lots of your questions), it really is quite simple.

Only 10 Rules. No wine or alcohol in the first 2 weeks. No nuts or seeds in the first 2 weeks. No fruit in the first two weeks. Eat 3 meals a day if you're a newbie. Eat if you are hungry - as long as any snacks are HFLC. Drink lots of water (amount is a function of your weight) - 2 of your cups of tea or coffee can count towards that.

No measuring - so you won't get guidance as to how much you "are allowed".

The Spreadsheet of Fabulousness has a tab which tells you which are the good low carb veg. Swede and celeriac are good, as are leeks, broccoli, cauliflower, asparagus, spinach and kale but parsnips and peas are too high carb. Carrots are a bit high carb - but one in a large dish (or grated finely in a coleslaw) is OK.

Dairy can stall some people - but you won't know until if you've started and done a few weeks. NB: butter doesn't count as dairy.

You can add fats in dressings, or butter on veg (microwaved buttery brussels are a Boot Camp staple as long as you like brussels Wink), use fattier mince (which is cheaper too Grin), buy low carb mayonnaise (Lidl mayonnaise is good or make your own), cook veg in cream (eg celeriac Dauphinoise, or bubble some cream through thinly sliced leeks).

After 2 weeks you can go onto Boot Camp Lite if you want, which allows some berries in moderation , nuts & seeds in moderation , dry white and red wine, spirits in moderation . Many of us stay on full Boot Camp or just do a couple of days of Lite during the week (eg at weekends).

The key thing about Boot Camp is breaking our addiction to sugars (in all its forms, including carbohydrates, which break down to sugars) and learning to listen to our bodies when we are truly hungry. So often we just eat because we are bored or emotional.

Just re-read your OP. If you recently had a baby and are breast feeding, I think Boot Camp Lite is suggested - but @StuntNun might be the best person to advise, have had children while on Boot Camp.

Many of us have found that Boot Camp helps to address depression - but we are all different, so can't say for sure it will help you.

Come and get support from the current Boot Camp thread - we're now on Week 5, but people start throughout the 10 weeks.

StuntNun · 06/02/2018 10:26

Hi Hayser what method of low carb did you use before? As Prettybird says, look at the Bootcamp rules. This method has been refined over several years and is an effective way to lose weight following a low carb way of eating. As a rule of thumb you want to avoid foods that are more than 5% carbohydrate, i.e. 5g carbohydrate per 100g on the label. Foods below 3% are ideal.

From your post you're probably planning too much dairy. While yogurt, cream, and cheese are all low carb they are likely to inhibit weight loss if you're having dairy at every meal and in creamy coffees as well.

How much cheese in a day is appropriate?
I would start out with two portions of dairy per day. If you're happy with your rate of weight loss then experiment with increasing it, if you like.

Cream in coffee?
Not a great idea if you're having six cups of coffee a day. I would try and get used to it black or some people switch to unsweetened almond milk instead.

Sausages- should i only have 2
It's important to eat to satiety on this way of eating. If you've been eating a standard UK diet then your body is used to running on carbs and it takes a bit of time and effort to switch over to using fat as the primary fuel source. This can lead to you feeling extra hungry and needing to snack more in the first couple of weeks until you can start burning fat efficiently. Once the process of adaption to low carb has completed then your appetite will naturally drop and you shouldn't need to snack as much or at all. So in short, eat as many sausages as it takes to feel full!

Heard different things but are the berries ok with a bit of double cream ie,Strawberry or raspberries etc or shall I avoid altogether
Berries are all fine. Cherries and some melons are also relatively low carb. Cream is okay but might be an issue if you're eating a lot of dairy. Full fat Greek yogurt is popular amongst low carbers.

Ham, would a couple slices of ham or sliced beef be ok with full fat cream cheese and a bit of rocket lettuce rolled up as a lunch?
That's not a bad low carb snack but you need to make sure that you're eating enough fat. So a better lunch would be salad with oil and vinegar dressing with the ham or beef on top.

what about veg? Is it mainly green veg that is best to have ie, spinach kale broccoli leeks .. but no carrots swede etc?
There's a list in the Bootcamp spreadsheet. But basically these are good: mushrooms, courgette, green leafy veg, salad leaves, cucumber, celeriac, swede, leeks, broccoli, radishes, celery, asparagus, aubergine, avocado, sprouts, cabbage, cauliflower, green beans, shallots, bamboo shoots, fennel, pak choi, beansprouts, baby sweetcorn.
These are okay in small quantities: peppers, tomatoes, onions, green beans, mangetout.
These are high carb: potatoes, sweet potato, carrots, sweetcorn, peas, beetroot, butternut squash.

how much is too much protein ?when low carbing in past I felt I've ate too much meat
It's much harder to overeat protein than most people think. Generally protein is only an issue for people eating a ketogenic diet for medical reasons (i.e. to treat epilepsy or cancer) or for people with diabetes who experience high blood glucose levels when they eat a lot of protein.

how can I get more fat in my diet when I won't eat chicken skin etc and I don't eat things like belly pork ?
You might find that you like fatty foods more once you're eating low carb, because your body recognises them as a prime source of food. But there are plenty of other sources of fat: choose fattier cuts such as chicken thighs or drumsticks, pork chops instead of fillet, oily fish, etc. You can also use olive oil for cooking or salad dressing, butter for cooking or melted on your veggies, coconut oil, etc.

I sometimes have wine on weekends to lose weight should I cut it out completely
It's best if you can cut it out completely for at least the first two weeks. There are low carb alcoholic drinks (red wine, white wine, prosecco, spirits) but alcohol stops your body burning fat while it is processed, and it can add a lot of empty calories.

I'm always peckish and pick at stuff alot
That's often a sign that you're insulin resistant, especially as you're overweight as well. After a couple of weeks on low carb you will find that you don't get hungry between meals.

I'm a bit postnatally depressed (am on anti depressents) too so tend to eat for comfort
This is a common problem. You need to find other ways to comfort yourself, or at the very least make sure you're eating low carb foods if you are comfort eating. Head over to the Bootcamp threads and you can ask for advice on dealing with comfort eating.

I'm going to start swimming on weds will try to go a couple times a week.
Exercise is a great idea for your health and also for keeping your muscles toned as you lose weight, so that your figure will look good. It can also be good for your mood which may help with the PND. It isn't essential for weight loss though, so don't feel you have to do crazy amounts to burn calories.

hayser33 · 06/02/2018 12:14

Thanks for all the info much appreciated

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hayser33 · 06/02/2018 12:22

I was following atkins
I was right in thinking I was having far too much cream and cheese (the stuff I really like typically!)
Think I will have one cup with cream first think in morning and have black rest of the time.
I shall limit cheese to some in my omelette once a day or in a salad but not over do it .
No Alcohol for two weeks I shall give that a go too to give me a good start

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StuntNun · 06/02/2018 13:14

Sounds like a great plan. Do pop over to the Bootcamp threads to get some extra support.

hayser33 · 06/02/2018 15:20

I will do many thanks

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