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Bootcamp - the questions thread

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BIWI · 13/01/2014 07:24

From experience of past Bootcamps, in the first few weeks the chat threads move really, really quickly and it's difficult sometimes to see/answer everything.

So this is a place to post any questions that you might have. Those of us who are old hands at low carbing will check this thread regularly and make sure that we answer you as soon as we can.

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BIWI · 28/01/2014 20:40

Sorry - I really don't know. But it doesn't sound very nice Sad

What had you had to eat today? And what about last night?

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SayraT · 28/01/2014 20:51

Yesterday I had:

B-tuna muffin
L- mini burgers (x3) with salad followed by ff Lidl yog
D - roast lamb (with nothing, was out at a class and ate when I came in)

Today:

B-tuna muffin
L- left-over lamb with veggies (broccoli, cauliflower, asparagus) lidl ff yog
D - lamb curry

None of these are unusual things for me, even before starting lc I ate loads of broccoli and cauliflower (just thinking that people not used to veg might have problems with lots of veg). I don't normally eat as much lamb but I live myself and January is a poor month so roasted a shoulder and thought that would feed me for a few days.

It is really very painful but comes and goes. At work today when it happened I was thinking I should go home, then the cramps would go and I'd feel ok.

Probably nothing to do with lc at all!

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BIWI · 28/01/2014 21:14

Are you constipated at all?

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SayraT · 28/01/2014 21:16

No, I am and have always been very regular and go every morning (so regular its pretty much the same time everyday!!) so not that.

StuntNun · 28/01/2014 21:30

Are you getting enough salt Sayra? Cramps can be due to an electrolyte imbalance. Maybe try a boullion drink or eat something salty like salted nuts. Before I started low carbing I hardly used salt at all but at the beginning of this woe I was craving salt so badly I would pour some into my hand to eat.

StuntNun · 28/01/2014 21:31

Oh and are you drinking enough water Sayra? And not too much caffeinated drinks?

SayraT · 28/01/2014 21:42

StuntNun I think I am drinking enough, I have had 3 litres of water so far today, one coffee (in the morning) and two cups of green tea. I will have another pint (600 ml ish I think?!) before I go to bed.

Maybe not enough salt, nothing I ate yesterday or today had any added salt. I'll try a boullion drink now maybe.

Thanks both of you for your advice Smile

SteeleyeStan · 29/01/2014 08:16

Sayra I had cramps like that in my upper stomach after having been on this WOE for a little while already (6 months-ish?), and they were bad enough that I ended up having an ultrasound scan and an endoscopy to see that it wasn't gallstones or an ulcer. They didn't find anything at all, I didn't change my diet (actually I think I becase a little bit stricter, because anything at all starchy seemed to make it worse), and they stopped on their own.

Not really advice, sorry, but I just wanted to share that it's not necessarily anything serious, at least. I hope they stop soon for you.

SayraT · 29/01/2014 18:08

Steel my pains are in the same sort of area. I don't think that its anything serious really. I'll maybe just write down whatever I am eating and also if I get pains and see if its linked to anything I am eating.

I do remember (vaguely) when I was younger, maybe 14/15, I had similar sort of pains. The pains started when I was on a pony camp thing where everything we were fed was fried, I wonder if it could be the fat/oil? I will carry on and see if it gets better.

LittleMissDisorganized · 29/01/2014 19:40

Upper abdominal cramps, intermittent but bad enough to have made you consider going home from work, are quite suggestive for gallstones. Of course, they might just be physiological but if they continue I'd be thinking your GP would be interested in doing an ultrasound at least.

SayraT · 29/01/2014 20:22

Thanks DrDisorganised Smile

I will see if it continues and if it does I will go to the doctor ....although I am not sure if I have one. Do you get taken off the doctors list like you do for the dentist if you've not been for a while? Not been to doctors for at least 10 years.

LittleMissDisorganized · 30/01/2014 05:28

No I think they are stuck with you forever Grin and they love having patients like you on the list - still get paid for them but they never darken the doors - what's not to like?!!
The fact you're considering it after these years tells me this is significant pain.

FrumpyPumpy · 30/01/2014 09:49

Just came on to ask about my 10lb loss in first 2 weeks and now nothing, have had a couple glasses of wine (3 total) and berries twice but other than that have been pretty strict. I've been powering through the cream yogurt and cheese so I've stopped eating those, and have upped water as had dropped to about 2.5 lites (from 4 per day first 2 weeks). I'm also walking about 8km a day.

But have just read about three week stall above - so is it that? Husband (low calorie) is gloating as he is losing!

FrumpyPumpy · 30/01/2014 10:00

saryaT I've had gallstones and it was pretty much as you describe...

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BIWI · 30/01/2014 14:25

It's not a stall! A stall is defined as no loss for a much longer period - around 3-4 weeks I believe.

Week 3 is fabled for this (and sometimes week 4 and/or 5).

Read the chat thread where I explain about this.

Keep on keeping on, and you will see the weight loss starting again soon. You can't expect to see such a significant loss every week, but you should see a loss of around 1-2lbs a week. (Which is much better and more sustainable weight loss in the long run)

And don't bother trying to compete with your husband! Men lose weight more quickly than women, for some irritating reason.

You might like, though, to do some reading about calorie counting and how it fucks your metabolism up, so you can scare him with that!

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BIWI · 30/01/2014 14:26

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FrumpyPumpy · 30/01/2014 14:38

Hey thanks! Might say sod it and buy some cream for coffee, after dinner treat. I've totally cut out caffeine this week, finally, so I do feel even if not losing I'm eating clean and having loads of veg, so can't be bad!

bettybigballs · 30/01/2014 16:57

Afternoon all. What do we think to these? High strength, all you need are two drops, could they be ok? www.lakeland.co.uk/p18343/Lakeland-Natural-Flavours

SayraT · 30/01/2014 17:52

They look like they could be tasty but no idea if they are ok.

SayraT · 31/01/2014 08:12

LittleMiss I will leave it at the moment and see if it continues and then if it does I will go to the doctors. As you can probably tell I am not the sort of person who heads off to the doctors at the first sign of something Grin. I always think that they must have more ill people to see than me, but in reality that is probably not true.

Tricky Did yours come and go? I was fine yesterday afternoon (in the morning at least three people asked me if I was ok so must have looked ill/something - probably just because I was quiet for a change Grin) and continued to be fine all evening and into this morning. Did anything get done for yours?

LittleMissDisorganized · 31/01/2014 13:41

Is this LC normal? I am following The Rules.
But...I am still struggling with nausea, every morning and some evenings (have a Mirena before anyone asks) and today has been the absolute worst, I had a meeting I had to make this morning, struggling with nausea throughout getting up and in the car. Got home, made lunch for DH and I (minute steak salad, yum) and as I put the dishes on the table had an overwhelming urge to be sick and spent the next 10 minutes in the bathroom. Lost much of my water, coffee, and visible, expanded psyllium husks (sorry if TMI). I actually ate some of my lunch half an hour later and am craving salty stuff now.

Nausea stopped for 4-5 days after initial carb flu, and better for a day or two again after last week's poorly run, but here again and I am, quite literally, sick of it. [had moderate-severe hyperemesis from weeks 6-30 in pregnancy, and plenty of alcohol poisoning over the last year of my drinking. Again, sorry if TMI]

Thinking water, letting myself have small amount of salted nuts, wait and see if it's a bug?? (Please don't say you're the doctor. I know nothing about nutrition really - what I knew I have unlearned in the past month here.)

LittleMissDisorganized · 31/01/2014 13:43

On, and betty they sell similar things in my local cake shop - but they only cost £1.50ish Grin . I have rose, lavender, blueberry and sticky toffee. Once upon a time, before bootcamp, they made awesome meringues, and buttercream, etc. The rose is nice in yogurt, but really strong.

WillieWaggledagger · 31/01/2014 14:47

littlemissdisorganised that doesn't sound LC normal to me. it could well be a bug. but if you want to check, you could always try a small piece of bread, or a bit of plain rice, or similar, just to see if it makes a difference?

it may be that you need more carbs than someone else, you never know

if you're ill, then all bets are off really, and just do what you need to do / eat what you need to eat to get better

LittleMissDisorganized · 31/01/2014 15:00

I've retreated to bed, and tbh my immune system went from protected at home to being out and about, friends' kids, swimming, public transport. 2 bugs in 9 days though - feel pretty rubbish. Don't know what the daily nausea has been, I do wonder if I produce insulin in expectation of carbs and drop my blood sugar. Might see if I can get hold of a blood sugar machine...

Thank you Willie for responding to my self pitying moans, you're so good :)

HerGraciousMajTheBeardedPotato · 31/01/2014 16:21

Little MissD, is there anything that you are eating now, that you did not eat before Bootcamp? I wonder whether your body is rejecting something, the psyllum husks, for example, or are you having too much dairy?