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shoptilidrop · 11/12/2009 10:09

DD is almost 4. We split up a year ago. Prior to splitting up he was never around ( forces) and we did split up for 2 years as well.
Since september he has been having DD almost every other weekend for one night. He hasnt had her the last 2 weeks at all as he had a night out planned. ( apparently that is more important!)
We live an hour apart. ( when we seperated i was made homeless as we lived in an army house, so i moved nearer to my family).
Yesterday he drove down to see DD in her nativity play. I had told him about it and that it was only half an hour and that she had plans straight after it ( christmas party). I told him this, and said it was up to him that he came. He did come, but DD didnt want to see him and hid behind my legs. ( she has been saying a lot recently that she doesnt want to see him, she wont talk to him on the phone. She crys for hours prior to going to his.) He got in a huff with her in the nursery in front of everyone then said it was my fault. ( i encourage her to go to his, to speak to him on the phone. i dont want her to have a crap relationship with her dad as i know what thats like). He then picked her up and carried her out of the nursery with her shouting ' put me down, im not a baby'. he then had a go at me when i said we had to go as apparently he had a spare hour.

Then it he tells me he had got DD the same present i have, but to be kept at his flat. I had told him what i had got her, so he wouldnt get the same. And thats what he has done.

DD is really tired and run down at the mommment. She has got a mouth full of ulcers, bags under her eyes and looks shattered. WE are having a quiet day at home today. She always comes back from His complleatly shattered. Last time he had her i had to take the day off work as she just looked terrible and kept falling asleep. I have tried to tell him about making sure she has some quiet chilled out time. He says thats boring and its not his fault if she is tired, its mine as i chose to work, and therefore have to put her in nursery.

She keeps saying she doesnt want to go to his. Last time she went she was crying all day. AT 4pm i had had enough and called him to say that i wasnt going to send her. ( she had been like that the time before as well, but had got her to go in the end, but when she is hanging onto my legs begging to stay with me all day. its hard to make her) Of course he said that was my fault and i must be poisioning her mind. Nevermind the fact that i had plans for that weekend too, which if DD stayed with me i would have to cancel! In the end i got DD to agree that if we drive halfway to his and meet him and if she still didnt want to go with him we would come home. She did go in the end, but its not something im going to keep doing.
he wanted to have her for 4 nights in the run up to christmas, with how she is being i said 2 would be better. he said that DD is 4 and should get no choice and that she doesnt know what her own thoughts and feelings are and should be made to do as she his told.

Im just so angry with him. He doesnt seem to get that she is a person, she may be four, but she still is a person. I certainly dont let her get away with much, i am quite strict. But i do think she should be listen to. I dont know what i can do to get him to understand. He has only maybe lived with her for 6 months of her life, he hardly knows her at all. Also posted this in AIBU, but thought maybe someone on here might have a few ideas on how i can deal with this.

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VinegarTinselTits · 11/12/2009 10:22

Hi Shop, i remember your ex, and he sounds as selfish and controlling as ever, its no wonder she doesnt want to go it cant be fun for her, i have no advice really as it doesnt sound like he will ever change his selfish ways, he is not thinking about what she wants at all

My ds2 has been very clingy, he has been ill a lot lately and tired and run down, my xp has him every other weekend like yours, a few times he has drove over to get ds2 and he has been hysterical because he doesnt want to leave me, my xp is very understanding and will not take him if he is in a state, he knows ds2 loves him and that it is just a phase, and he just goes away empty handed and comes back the next day to try again

I dont know what to suggest for your dd really, apart from jsut keep trying to encourage her to go and hope your ex cahnges his selfish ways(although i cant see that happening)

cestlavielife · 11/12/2009 10:27

re the present actually i dont think is big deal if is something nice so she has same thing at both places. so i would drop that one..

but the rest sounds extremely difficult.

but the blame thing - hard. how do you talk? does it always end in argument? would it be better to stick to written communication?

if he only has her one overnight hard to see what he does with her to make her so tired - does she not go to bed? is kept up?
tho hard for you to dictate what happens there - you cant really....

have you taken her to GP? maybe something from GP prescribing good sleep etc might be better come from GP?

is she eating ok? good diet?

MrsMorgan · 11/12/2009 10:28

I agree that your dd should be listened to, and her dad is a foll to think otherwise. Plus the fact, you are with her 24/7 and he is not, so you will know wether she is up to a 4 day visit or not. He isn't putting his dd first.

My dc are older, and every now and again will say that they don't want to go to xp's. Generally I chivvy them along and they do go, however so far non of them have wanted to stay at his if their birthday or xmas is the following day and I have always agreed to that. Xp doesn't like it, but I am not about to dictate to the dc where they spend their birthday.

shoptilidrop · 11/12/2009 10:32

hi vingear.

Yeah, hes the same. According to him everything is my fault. Its my fault if she doesnt want to go, not his. he if made more of an effort or bothered with her more often than 3 days a month she might want to.

I wish he was as understanding as your ex seems to be. DD is seriously tired. Im doing all i can to help her be less tired. Ive got my mum walking the dog for the next few days so we havent got to go traipsing round the park. Tpday we are having a pj day. But tomorrow we have got this breakfast with father christmas thing and have got to leave the house at 7am. But sunday we will have another quiet day. Next week will be busy as usual. Its life, i cant stop life happening, she is tired, and im doing the best i can to help with that. If he did to, it would be ok. But he wont even acknowlege it.

He says its not fair on him. So clearly he is not thinking of her needs at all.

never going to change.

I will always encourage her to go ( i need a break too!) but if she gets in a right state, like she did the other week. Im not going to make her. End of.

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shoptilidrop · 11/12/2009 10:38

He wont talk to me. he wont listen to me at all. Ive tried emailing, so he has things in writing. he doesnt reply. If i ask him he says he hasnt got them.
he just says that he is not going to listen to me.

She gets so tried as he just does stuff with her non stop. Yes, its good that he does. But he carts her about all over the place. Plus late night as well. She has a really busy life mon - fri and does need the weekends to chill out a bit and he doesnt give her any down time.
She eats fine, sleeps really well at home. No problems.

He just blames me as its not going his way. Hes always been like this, its always everyones fault but his own. Like yesterday when she saw him she hid behind my legs. According to him that was my fault! HOW!!!
He just wont accept that she is a person, i dont control her thoughts and actions ( i wish i could sometimes! LOL).

I just dont know how this will ever improve.

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cestlavielife · 11/12/2009 11:59

"he just says that he is not going to listen to me."

maybe time to play same game? dont listen to him dont rise to his bait.

is there a court order for contact or how was it agreed? something in writing?

could you ask him to attend a mediation session ? get it agreed in writing that he should give her full night's sleep (sounds petty and small but if is discussed with third party he might take note?)

ask to attend a jont family therapy session for separated parents? (depends where you are but is available in our area)

of course he would prob jsut refuse to go tehn you stuck - my exP refused to attend CAFCASS organised family meeting - my dds are upset as there were a number fo things they wanted to bring up .

they 7 and 9 and cafcass officer sold them the meeting as being about tehm and what they want and drawing up "rules for dad"....but obviously your dd younger .

but as she gets older it could be something to do with her sit down and write rules form her point of view.

in mean time you dont have much choice really other than to try and avoid speaking to him, at all times, keep sending written emails without emotions in them only facts....so you have record if needed later on on your attempts to resolve these issues.

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