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OptimistS · 06/01/2009 22:08

I've been reading a lot of posts lately about people who are desperately unhappy in their relationships but are reluctant to leave because they don't want to be a single parent. I've also been reading some heart-rending posts about people who find being a lone parent terribly lonely and feel that they are not a 'proper family'. Am I the only one who absolutely loves being a single parent? Come on all you single MNers. Let's have some positive stories about being a lone parent. I don't want to dismiss the feelings of those who aren't happy. They are valid feelings and they are entitled to them. However, I would like to show that it doesn't have to be like that and that it can actually be very enjoyable in the right circumstances. If we can give hope to a single pregnant mum, a parent facing divorce, or a recent single parent who is still finding the future daunting, it will be well worth it.

I'll start the ball rolling. I am mum to 2-year-old twins (well, 2 in a couple of weeks). I can honestly say that I am happier and more fulfilled now than I have ever been in my life. For once, I have stopped tying up my identity and goals (and therefore self-responsibility) with another and taken control of my own destiny. I feel incredibly empowered as a result. I don't have to compromise on decision making. I have a much stronger bond with my children than I think I would have done had I remained with my x. I have a good job with fantastic bosses who are more like friends to me, and wonderful friends who I count as family.

The family angle is a good one that I think we often get sidetracked by. But the truth is, if you look at different cultures in the world, and the idea of family through the ages, it's clear that the modern idea of the typical nuclear family is a very recent, western idea. Many societies are based on the idea of extended family, while other societies work well based on polygamy, etc. I like to think that familes can come in all shapes and sizes and are best described as 'a collection of people whose lives are interrwined and who all care deeply about one another". That could be two gay men bringing up a child, a single parent with children, a typical nuclear family, a step-parent family, or anything really. I consider myself and my children as a proper family. We have no need of a man (though it would be nice if I met the right one - I'm certainly not a man-hater). I count friends as well as relatives as my extended family, possibly because my friends are more involved in my day-to-day life than my family (my wonderful parents are sadly both dead, my dear sister is in Australia, and my elderly aunts and uncles all live miles away).

All in all, I am very content with my lot. Those of you who are happy too, please join in.

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HOLLY2310 · 12/01/2009 10:04

Jazzpants, OptimistS and anyone else this is relevant to.
Like you both, I was in a similar situation and was too laid back and tolerant. Hand on my heart, I can honestly say I tried everything over the last 7 years to save my marriage but he didn't want to know and seemed to take great pleasure in making me cry! The last few times before I left him, I learnt not to get upset and keep calm, and realised that this approach seemed to wind him up! I think when your P or H see you upset, this gives them satisfaction because they feel like they have control over you. I think we should be really pleased that we've got out of these awful relationships! I too am bringing my DCs up to be cautious of people's intentions and to stick up for themselves. My DD is 11 years old and she pretty confides in me about most things (I hope!), and I would hope that I am a positive role model for her, if anything at least she'll learn not to tolerate harsh treatment from a guy (and not take the crap for as long as I did!).

HOLLY2310 · 12/01/2009 12:41

Just wanted to add one more thing! (sorry to ramble on!), I wished I'd discovered MN ages ago when I was still with H as it would have been really useful to get advice from other MNers back then as well. I didn't know anyone else who was going through what I was going through and thought a lot of it was me being unreasonable which now of course I realise it wasn't!

aseriouslyblondemoment · 12/01/2009 13:14

me too Holly
and no he was the unreasonable one
you're quite right

HOLLY2310 · 12/01/2009 14:46

Just one question though, do any of you guys still think "OMG is this really happening to me!" - even though me and H have been apart since July 2008 (there were pathetic attempts at reconciliation but luckily I saw through his bullshit and realised it was only the kids and money he was bothered about!)anyway I started divorce proceedings in early December but I still think "How did i get here?, what happended?" etc etc, do you guys think like that? and if you used to then when did it stop?

sleepingwiththeenemy · 12/01/2009 16:10

Holly...I've been seperated for 2 years now, but it hit me TODAY that I'm a single Mum!!! It kind of catches you unawares sometimes - not that it catches me in a bad way it's just a kind of rush of realisation! I mean, obviously it's hit me before, loads of times, but I think it'll be a long time before I ever get used to it.

LiffeyMermaid · 12/01/2009 16:41

Jazzpants & OptimistS, I'm another one who had an idyllic childhood, 2 married parents who respect eachother and get on well still,

I've done a bit of navel-gazing to try and understand how I ended up with a man who undermined me and controlled me and verbally abused me.

Still not quite sure how it happened, but at least I'm free of him now.

aseriouslyblondemoment · 12/01/2009 17:12

Holly
i did find it all a bit of an out of body experience for a long time
i can't remember when i finally came out of this phase
i kept the divorce quiet for a while
its a conversation stopper iyswim!!
you are at the beginning of the legal part of the divorce which in itself is draining
do so hope things move quickly for you

LiffeyMermaid · 12/01/2009 17:14

Yes, you meet new people, and it gets to the third personal question, just the third usually, and you either have to lie, or stop the conversation.

aseriouslyblondemoment · 12/01/2009 17:20

what now liffey?
oh god couldnt care less anymore
quite happy to tell people
this is all part of the liberated new me

LiffeyMermaid · 12/01/2009 17:39

yes, now that I don't care anymore, it doesn't stop the conversation! But when I did care, I suppose my pitiful little voice wobbled, and that's why the conversation stopped!

Now, the thought of somebody being sorry that I'm not with my x is bizarre!

HOLLY2310 · 12/01/2009 20:25

I've already experienced some of those "looks of pity" not nice! At least I've got the questions to look forward to! Arrghh!

aseriouslyblondemoment · 12/01/2009 20:54

Holly you will get thru this
and you will soon work out the genuine from the downright nosey

jazzpants · 12/01/2009 22:01

Holly, I totally have days where I think "shit this is my life! how did this happen?" I find the fact that I do not know anyone in a similar situation and at times that can feel ver isolating, this site (im fairly new) has been refreshing to chat to people who understand your difficult situation.I also understand your comment about "hubby used to enjoy to see me cry", if I ever cried my hubby would ignore me, sometimes for days,I remember when he was trying to push me into aborting our son and I refused he wouldnt speak to me and I sobbed for days, it was soul destroying! what should have been one of the happiest times of my life will always be tarnished with these memories.Although I think I wasted 10yrs with this man, I could be looking back in another 20yrs and thinking I had wasted 30yrs! but I agree with the above comments telling people you are going through a divorce is horrid,I sometimes feel like I should wear a big neon sign that says legally seperated single mom!my lovely sister says "god will not send more than you can cope with" although I do not have a religious faith, I always find this a comfort pn a bad dayx

HOLLY2310 · 12/01/2009 22:25

Jazzpants, I'm fairly to this site as well and it has definately helped me sharing problems with others who have been through similar experiences. Amazing how many women have suffered this type of treatment from their XP or H. Like you I think its better to get out after 10 yrs rather suffering another 10 or 20 years with these losers. Can't imagine what you must have been feeling when he told you to have an abortion, that is so awful! What a wanker!

LiffeyMermaid · 13/01/2009 11:43

Jazzpants, my x was the same, my deep distress didn't even bother him, not even slightly.

I only know happily married couples in real life too. MN is a lifesaver. I know that there are plenty of other single mothers out there, like me, but we just aren't near eachother. Unfortunately!!

Pinkchampagne · 13/01/2009 22:33

I am much happier now. I spent years struggling in an unhappy, unhealthy relationship while I was still with my exh. Being on your own can be a little lonely at times, but it doesn't compare to the feeling of being upset time & time again by the person you share a house with.

I have met the lovliest man now - we have been together nearly a year & a half, but don't live together yet.
I also get on better with exh now that we are apart & he is not my problem anymore. He sees the boys often, so I get some free time just for myself, which I rarely got before. The boys also spend quality time with their dad when they see him.

Sorting my divorce out now, with absolutely no regrets at all. My decision to end my marriage was 100% the right one!

jazzpants · 14/01/2009 08:11

I have no idea where everyone lives, but if anyone in the west midlands (im in Birmingham) but I do drive, it would be lovely to meet up with anyone who wants a coffee, cake and general chit chat, would be great to make some friends xx

HOLLY2310 · 14/01/2009 12:26

Hi everyone,
Jazzpants - I live in Coventry and drive also and meeting up for a coffee and chit chat sounds like a nice idea.
Just wanted to talk about something to see whether anyone has had this experience with their X playing mind games like pretending that they wanted to work things out and try again, but instead of saying lets meet up and discuss our problems or actually phoning to talk, they said stupid text messages instead! (I've had 2 of these stupid messages over the last few weeks) I'm getting this from H and I knows its because he's now had the divorce petition from me. It just makes me mad because its obvious after the last 7 months of us being apart things aren't going to work out! I mean he's been treating me so badly for the last 6 or 7 years - perhaps he thought I would never leave. I know for a fact he doesn't love me and had been slagging me off to other people behind my back. He doesn't want to sell the house because it means he will have to move back to his parents. He is just so resentful and then he thinks I'm so stupid I'm going to fall for a soppy text! He even sends texts to DD saying he loves her and misses her so much but thankfully she's getting sick of his texts and isn't bothered by it anymore. Did anyone else have this from their exP/H? Is it the control factor? or just H feeling sorry for himself? thats what it looks like to me. Why does he think he can continue to pile this pressure on me?

aseriouslyblondemoment · 14/01/2009 13:17

i do hate mind games
its just another childish thing to deal with
and yes my exh did it
and yes still does but it mostly goes over my head now
tbh Holly he is in love with the idea of being married
and is quite frankly terrified of going it alone
incidentally i have read that it is pscychologically more damaging to somebody to deal with a divorce when there are no other parties involved
so this is his means of getting even if you like

HOLLY2310 · 14/01/2009 16:28

Thanks Seriously,
Actually just one other thing. The Court posted the divorce petition to H on the 30th December, and he had 14 days to respond, I'm pretty sure he's acknowledged it and sent it back, so on this basis the Court should have this by now, but what happens next? and when can the Decree Nisi happen? is this issued automatically?

aseriouslyblondemoment · 14/01/2009 16:38

it really depends on whether he has
or whether his solicitor is dragging their heels
IME my exh solicitor did alot of deliberate sending of documents by pigeon post
its also dependent on when the family courts sit
and whether they accept your petition
i'm assuming that like me its irreconcilable differences
i think if i'm right the court has to consider whether you are suitable to have custody of the dcs too
this is before the nisi bit
you will receive notification of this bit
then a date for the nisi

jazzpants · 14/01/2009 21:14

Holly - that would be great, if you have any spare time? im fairly new to this ite so am unsure how things work? how would we make arrangements? or swap numbers ect?, if anyone wants to join us anyone is welcome!
im sorry I cannot offer advice on the court thing yet, as we are still in the mediation process, I am reluctant to go to court due to costs ect...but h is being very awkward and not going to mediation, am unsure which way to turn tbh???

HOLLY23 · 14/01/2009 22:51

I don't think H is going to give me any problems with the divorce but I will have to wait and see! What he says and what he does are two different things!
Jazzpants - have you seen a solicitor? many of them offer free surgeries or a fixed price of around £75 for the first meeting, they may be able to do something about the legal costs like make your H pay 50%. I found this meeting really useful and it helped me to understand the overall divorce process, my entitlements, costs etc. With meeting up, can you email me at [email protected], thanks.

mrsmortenharket · 15/01/2009 09:38

pc it's never a year and half already

congratulations xxx

Pinkchampagne · 15/01/2009 17:23

well 17 months to be exact, but as good as a year & a half!! He is lovely.

How are things with you?