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Change of law for parents who have committed DV having access to children

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Shitendofthestick · 23/10/2025 22:04

Hello, I can't see anything on her but there was a change to presumption of parental involvement review. This is a massive step for anyone who has experienced DV and fears for the safety of their DC with the other parent. Please find the review in the link

Presumption of parental involvement review

This is the final report, and accompanying research reports, outlining the findings of the review of the presumption of parental involvement.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/presumption-of-parental-involvement-review

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Shitendofthestick · 23/10/2025 22:08

Another link

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Shitendofthestick · 23/10/2025 22:17

Thank you I've commented, praying this is the change we need 🙏

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TickingKey46 · 25/10/2025 13:29

I thank my lucky stars i was able to get a no contact order for my 2 kids, there for being able to keep them safe. Many many other parents haven't been so lucky.

Chinupchindownchinroundandround · 25/10/2025 13:31

TickingKey46 · 25/10/2025 13:29

I thank my lucky stars i was able to get a no contact order for my 2 kids, there for being able to keep them safe. Many many other parents haven't been so lucky.

Me too. I have never met another woman in my life who got as lucky as I did. My babies were 2.6 and 8 months old when the courts said he wasn't allowed to contact or communicate with me or them unless authorised by family courts / social services and or a solicitor. Its been 8 years and I thank my lucky stars every single day

crackofdoom · 25/10/2025 13:33

I agree, it's fantastic.

(And I think it says a lot about people's priorities- even those women who claim to care about women's rights- that there isn't a thread on this already).

Shitendofthestick · 25/10/2025 13:34

@TickingKey46 @Chinupchindownchinroundandround hello could I ask why this was granted. Circumstances etc. Did you have a police report filing for DV? Did they have priors? What evidence did you have of DV? Did they harm your DC? I'm really keen to look into this. Many thanks

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Chinupchindownchinroundandround · 25/10/2025 14:31

Shitendofthestick · 25/10/2025 13:34

@TickingKey46 @Chinupchindownchinroundandround hello could I ask why this was granted. Circumstances etc. Did you have a police report filing for DV? Did they have priors? What evidence did you have of DV? Did they harm your DC? I'm really keen to look into this. Many thanks

Hi

There was many reports to the police made by me, members of the public, neighbours ect ,several arrested, non molestation order,

I was only 18 when I met him and managed to find the strength to leave when I was 25.

I believe the children were included in the court order as the final attack happened because I couldn't stop the baby from crying quick enough & I had moved area's and their ages ( 8 months old and 2.6 years ) and I had previously had a non nol against him and all the arrests / reports

He was in court for attacking me and they included the children on the no contact order when he wad found guilty.

I will never ever forget looking at one of the judges and asking her to help me keep my babies safe. I will never ever forget her face when I said it

RealReformNeeded2025 · 25/10/2025 17:29

Removing the presumption of contact will not change anything on its own. It is a step in the right direction, but real change requires systemic reform, a cultural shift within the family courts in England and genuine accountability and transparency. Practice Direction 12J already exists, yet courts regularly ignore or downplay it, labelling cases as “parental conflict” and prioritising quick resolutions over evidence, just to clear the court list. Allegations of abuse are often not investigated, fact-finding hearings aren’t ordered. Whilst this continues, children’s emotional and physical safety will remain compromised.

RealReformNeeded2025 · 25/10/2025 17:31

RealReformNeeded2025 · 25/10/2025 17:29

Removing the presumption of contact will not change anything on its own. It is a step in the right direction, but real change requires systemic reform, a cultural shift within the family courts in England and genuine accountability and transparency. Practice Direction 12J already exists, yet courts regularly ignore or downplay it, labelling cases as “parental conflict” and prioritising quick resolutions over evidence, just to clear the court list. Allegations of abuse are often not investigated, fact-finding hearings aren’t ordered. Whilst this continues, children’s emotional and physical safety will remain compromised.

Real change will only come from amending the Overriding Objective in the Family Procedure Rules 2010 to prioritise the safeguarding of children over efficiency, resource allocation, and procedural convenience

Talipesmum · 25/10/2025 17:47

crackofdoom · 25/10/2025 13:33

I agree, it's fantastic.

(And I think it says a lot about people's priorities- even those women who claim to care about women's rights- that there isn't a thread on this already).

Agree it’s fantastic news. But there have been several threads already, one linked up thread. Good to keep posting about it - but not right to say women “who claim to care about women’s rights” don’t.

TickingKey46 · 26/10/2025 11:46

Shitendofthestick
Hi there, it's a complicated and very long winded story. But it's very different from
Chinupchindownchinroundandround.
There was no physical abuse, but deep psychological and othet abuse. My children had a cafcass guardian ( not a regular, cafcass officer) she totally understood what was going on,
S/s social worker was not good and indeed wanted to continue contact.
A no contact order was granted via a civil order. I had witnesses, he had some prior criminal convictions. Whats app messages, the list goes on and on. His behaviour during the 13 month court case became more and more deranged!

If I was to change my mind and say he could see the children then yes no one could stop me, but that wont happen. I have since had to get a non molestation order out as he continues to harrass me.

Shitendofthestick · 30/10/2025 11:24

Thank you both I'm so sorry you've experienced such awful treatment, I feel like they prey on the kind and trusting souls.

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