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The bastard's back... Prepare for a rant...

20 replies

goingbonkers · 27/04/2008 23:21

So here I am starting a wonderful new relationship with a gorgeous man and like a bolt from the blue my ex has decided he wants to see my DD (age 3). He saw her until her 1st bday and then bang! changed his number, moved house and has never contacted me again since. It was always me getting him to come and see her and I was getting fed up of running round after him so when he dropped all contact it was a pretty big relief. He would often say he was coming and then wouldn't turn up, usually without letting me know. I kept a diary of every communication with him and I think he saw her about 20 times in the first year of her life. He missed about 30 visits and on a few occasions, turned up unannounced, expecting me to drop everything for him to spend time with her. I tried to get him to commit to a regular day/time but he wouldn't stick to anything.

He has never paid a penny maintenance. Did all the usual with the CSA: Denied paternity, job hopped, left the country, moved house every few months so 'never got the letters from CSA' blah blah blah.

In the last 2yrs, he has got married and had a baby with his new wife and I don't think she knows my DD exists. I think this is why he stopped all contact and changed all his numbers etc, in case his wife found out.

Now he has split up with the wife and has decided, now it suits him, he wants to see my DD again. He now has 3 dc's by 3 different women and I know he doesn't have any contact with the 1st or mine.

I am trying very hard to think carefully about whether or not to allow him into her life. She doesn't ever ask about him, we have managed perfectly well without him for 3 years. I really don't think it's in her best interests at this point in time.

His history is not good. He was violent towards me (pre DD), he looks for relationships that will be of financial benefit for him. He refused to ever pay a penny for rent/food/bills etc before DD came along and he even pawned some expensive jewellery of mine and then lied about it. (I found the receipt). I never got it back
He also spent time in prison for assault. (Not towards me)

I just don't know that at age 3 it is a good idea to introduce her to her father. He tends to be all talk and no action and I never believe a word he says. He cannot be trusted and I know he will let her down. Also she has just met my new man so I don't want to throw in another new person/relationship for her.

She is a very happy, lively well-loved and funny little girl and I feel his presence in her life at this stage will be very negative. I have always thought that she might want to get to know him when she's a bit older and I don't think I'd object to that but now just seems like such a bad time.

I just know he will get bored and lose interest again and I told him before that he was on his final chance and if he screwed it up again, he wouldn't get another until she was old enough to decide for herself.

I am so pissed off that he can disappear out of her life when he feels like it and then, when it suddenly 'fits in' with him, start up contact again. How long will it be before he gets some other poor cow pregnant and he drops contact again?

Honestly, I think there should come a time when the courts can order a slow painful and torturous castration for all shitty men that think it's ok to father several children and take no responsibility for them. People may argue this would not be in line with the human rights act, but let's be honest, is it fair on the human rights of the women and the children he keeps producing? (He is a very manipulative and persuasive liar).

What a twat.

Sorry. Rant over.

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goingbonkers · 27/04/2008 23:26

Oh my God - sorry. Didn't realise I'd banged on that much about it!! Well done anyone who makes it to the end of that!!!!

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wessexgirl · 27/04/2008 23:31

Bloody hell, he sounds like a reet wanker. On the other hand, it's your child's right to know her father. If she found out when older that you had prevented that, she would be justified in feeling hacked off about it.

It's horrible, because she will find it confusing, and won't know who the hell he is, but at least you are not preventing her from having a relationship with him.

I really sympathise though .

snotbuster · 27/04/2008 23:46

How has he contacted you? Has he rung out of the blue or sent solicitors letter?

eenybeeny · 27/04/2008 23:51

if it was me - I would try to keep him out of her life. Yes when she is older she may want to know him but at least then she will be a little more capable of bouncing back when he screws her up. You are not doing her any favours letting her have a relationship with him. IMO. I am sorry I TOTALLY believe Dads have just as many rights as Mums - if a Dad posted this about his XP a Mum I would say the same thing. He will hurt her at this stage of her life. Sorry thats my opinion.

littlewoman · 28/04/2008 00:04

This is an awkward situation. Why don't you try asking him what is his motivation for seeing dd and how long he thinks he can keep it up for, because if he's going to breeze in and out, it's best left alone. See if you can stall him for a couple of weeks / months. If he drops off the face of the earth again, you'll know it was a 'spur of the moment' idea of his, and his interest was never very keen anyway.

stuffitllama · 28/04/2008 00:10

The stalling idea, for as long as possible, and not ever initiating contact yourself. He has so little respect. Maybe you could insist on some off-putting conditions, like going to counselling first, to test his commitment.

Lauriefairycake · 28/04/2008 00:45

I think you should tell him that you are delighted that he now wants to be responsible and you will be grateful for his address so the CSA can start determining his payments.

Bet you never hear from the cunty bastard fucker again

SmugColditz · 28/04/2008 00:54

in the memorable words of Edward Hitler, of 'bottom' fame ...

"Cunnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnt"

slim22 · 28/04/2008 01:55

DO NOT LET HIM COME NEAR YOU.

YOU JUST ABOUT GOT OVER HIM & DD IS HAPPY WHY ON EARTH WOULD YOU WANT TO DO IT ALL OVER AGAIN AND CREATE HEARTACHE FOR YOUR DD?????

And what Lauriefairycake suggested.

mangolassi · 28/04/2008 05:14

What Lauriefairycake said.

Piffle · 28/04/2008 06:37

I'm with laurie cake. Bonus is that if he says he'll take you to familycourt for access( which I seriously doubt as
that takes money and committment) they will also be delighted to resolve the child support issue.
him coming and leaving is devastating for a child aged 3-5. I don't think it is necessarily good to block him fully, but you can and are entitled to set up some ground rules and insist on financial committment.

goingbonkers · 28/04/2008 13:47

Wow - thanks so much for all your replies.

He hasn't spoken to me directly yet but contacted a friend of mine as he doesn't have my current mobile number. He said he has been trying to get hold of me. I still have the same landline number though and still live in the same house so he can't have tried very hard.

Apparently the only thing that is stopping him from coming and knocking on my door is if another man answers it he will be really pissed off! How selfish is that?? He clearly doesn't give a monkeys about how it would make me feel, or my DD if he appeared on the doorstep unannounced!! My number is in the phone book FGS! It's not difficult to ring me if he's lost my home number!!!

I think the route I have decided to take is to do nothing for now and see if he does bother to ring/visit. At least I have had some warning that he may appear at my house out of the blue!

I have decided to tell him to put in writing what it is he wants and I will get some legal advice at that point and take it from there. My initial instinct is to give him a period of time (say 6 months?) to pay his arrears and start making regular maintenance payments. I never put financial conditions on his access before but I think I will have to now or he will do what the hell he wants and get away with it.

I have always maintained that I would put my DD 1st and encourage a relationship with her dad but at the age of 3 it just seems the worst possible time. Especially as she has just met my new (and 1st since she was born) boyfriend and his DC's. I don't want to confuse things for her.

I am confident it would never go to court as he has no money and never follows through with what he says he will do. Fortunately though I have kept a diary of everything so I have some evidence of his lack of commitment in seeing her, and the fact that he admitted to the CSA in a recorded phone call that he was job hopping and denying paternity to get out of giving me money!

Agree with fairylauriecake - hi is a cunty bastard fucker!

And a Knob rash.

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cluttercup · 28/04/2008 13:55

I'm also with the "test his commitment" lot. Your DD sounds happy and settled. As her mother, you will be looking for evidence from your ex partner that he will be able to engage in safe, secure, regular contact with her. Given his past history, the onus is for him to prove he has changed...you may be in for a long wait!

Freckle · 28/04/2008 13:57

I don't think it is in your dd's best interest to let her father back into her life at this stage. He clearly only acts in his best interest, so you have to wonder why he is turning up at this point. If you have a lovely new man who is prepared to act as a father to your dd, that is preferable to introducing her to a man who is likely to disappear out of her life again when it suits him.

I'd tell him to cough up all the child support for the last 3 years or bog off.

goingbonkers · 28/04/2008 18:32

Too right! Money has never been the top of the priority list. Sure - it would be nice and my DD is entitled to it but I have been more than reasonable in the past and separated the money from the contact.

He has been taken to court by the CSA and the bailiffs have apparently been round but he'd moved several times so it all came to a dead end. The CSA have been useless but if he does decide to come round he will be in for a shock. I don't plan to let him anywhere near her until payments have been coming to me smoothly for a period of time and then I think the contact will be arranged through a solicitor if needs be. The minute he defaults on either money matters or contact, he will be shown the door until my DD asks to see him.

Thanks so much for all the advice and comments. You have all confirmed I'm doing the right thing. I don't want to be totally unreasonable and say an outright 'no' (even though I'd happily never clap eyes on him again) but he's definitely gonna have to show me how serious he is.

For all I know, he probably won't even bother to get in touch so I am going to try not to worry too much in the mean time.

Perhaps we should set up a name and shame website to warn other people off our ex's!!! My ex really is a prize winning Pillock that should come with a severe health warning! If only we could tattoo it on their forehead!

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NotDoingTheHousework · 28/04/2008 18:40

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ElizabethBeresfordSW19 · 28/04/2008 18:44

Wow. He sounds a hopeless deadbeat. I think you should allow your daughter to see him once or twice a year, just so that she doesn't grow up resenting you for not 'allowing' it. Also, if she sees just that much of him, she won't make you feel ill idealising him!

My children's Dad is hopeless too. He gives us £1 a month. a fcuk u £1 standing order into my bank account. I would love to see even less of him. My dd thinks he's marvellous. eurghghgh.

ElizabethBeresfordSW19 · 28/04/2008 18:47

Is there a website where you can name your ex as a deadbeat??

goingbonkers · 28/04/2008 18:50

I think it would be a very popular website!!

I just can't believe how parents can do this to their own children??? How long should they be allowed to play around with childrens lives and get away with it? It makes me soooooo

I think you are totally right as well with how you're handling it. He obviously isn't that committed to seeing the DC's either. What a shit!

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ElizabethBeresfordSW19 · 28/04/2008 18:56

Somebody technical set one up!!

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