Allegation of parental alienation

[Orchidlie22]

Hello, does anyone of any experience of this and how it can be proved with evidence?

So to investigate your answer not based on fact but your perceptions and others
The problem is that PA is extremely frequently used as an attack by abusive men against protective mothers. - there is no measure ot this any where plus where Domestic abuse is proven against the man or women - it is not Parental ALienation. 2 Because the courts are messed up and biased towards men, these allegations are frequently believed.- Men would say the complete opposite. There is no evidence on this and any would say that because 80-90% of custodial parents are Female that the Courts are in reality extremely biased? 3. So I believe that PA can happen, but in practice false allegations of PA are very frequently used as another tool of abuse, with women being placed in a vulnerable position. - Many women are alienated as are daughters grand mothers so this means that by denyng parental alienation is real and mostly used in false allegations you are putting alienated women at risk as what the male perps of PA according to your sentiments rarely happens!

I have researched this extensively and honestly was shocked by the way I was treated by Social Services and what the research says.

Here is information about a US study which is widely thought also to reflect the legal position in the UK:

https://ojp.gov/ncjrs/virtual-library/abstracts/us-child-custody-outcomes-cases-involving-parental-alienation-and

"The findings confirm that mothers’ claims of abuse, especially child physical or sexual abuse, increase their risk of losing custody, and that fathers’ cross-claims of alienation virtually double that risk. Alienation’s impact is gender-specific; fathers alleging mothers are abusive are not similarly undermined when mothers cross-claim alienation."

These woozled studies have been disproven. I know at least 50 alienated mothers who have been abandoned by people like you who ignore reality. Plus do you really believe ab experienced judge we would reverse custody when domestic abuse has been proven? Really?

Maybe you should read this proper scientific research by a psychologist that is properly peer reciewed unlike unqualified Ms Meir's papers https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0190740923003833

@Pol1961 to be honest, I'm not sure why you keep arguing with me. I have said that I believe that PA can be real. It's just that it's often falsely deployed as a charge by parents (especially men) who are themselves abusive.

And frankly, I find it difficult to believe that you know at least 50 mothers in that position.

Sorry I had to balance up what you have said and de gender it and make it into reality.

Abusive parents do commit PA and do make false allegations of PA and all sorts of abuse. No one knows or has a measurement of any of these abuses.
The problem is that PA (and DA) is extremely frequently used as an attack by abusive men (and women) against non abusive protective mothers and fathers. Because the courts are messed up YES and are not biased towards men, these allegations are frequently believed.
So I believe that PA can happen, but in practice false allegations of PA are very frequently used as another tool of abuse, as are false allegations of child and domestive abuse with women and men being placed in a vulnerable position and their lives and more importantly their children's lives wrecked!
Unfortunately neither of us has statistics of any of this but we do know that false allegations of all types of abuses including PA are made by men and women and that abuse including PA is undertaken by women and men - FACT

From my experience of being accused of PA, it was actually the other parent who was doing it, but accusing me of it!
I think the family courts can and will take it seriously but only in certain circumstances.
When it's a "simple" family access hearing I don't think the judges/cafcass have the time to properly look at it. But when other professionals are involved and the case is heard in more depth, eg known d/A,/fact finding/Scott schedule etc etc then they do investigate and make findings accordingly. A simple half a day hearing to determine how often a child sees the other parent isn't a place where more complex issues are properly investigated, unfortunately. Well that's my experience.

YEs many Alienators are Narcisitic and will reflect their abuse on to their non abusive target parent with accusations of PA and or DV too.

They often make the first strilke of allegations before the targeted prent even knows what has hit them

I'm p

I’ve replied before I think but by complaining I meant it to include refusing to see the parent, which is very common in parental alienation. Not necessarily complaining about the parent, often they don’t even have the vocabulary yet for that.

yes Parental alienation includes the following low level to extreme behaviours - "These behaviours can include negative attitudes, communications and beliefs that denigrate, demean, vilify, malign, ridicule or dismiss the child’s other parent. It includes conveying false beliefs or stories to, and withholding positive information from, the child about the other parent, together with the relative absence of observable positive attitudes and behaviours.” (Johnston and Sullivan, 2020).
“Alienating behaviours can also include spurning, terrorising, isolating, corrupting, or exploiting, and not responding appropriately to the child’s emotional needs. These tactics can foster a false belief that the parent who has been subject to the alienating behaviour is dangerous or unworthy. Children may adapt their own behaviours and feelings to the alienating parent to ensure that their attachment needs are met.” (Baker, 2010).
https://www.cafcass.gov.uk/parent-carer-or-family-member/applications-child-arrangements-order/how-your-family-court-adviser-makes-their-assessment-your-childs-welfare-and-best-interests/alienating-behaviours#:~:text=%E2%80%9CAlienating%20behaviours%20can%20also%20include,behaviour%20is%20dangerous%20or%20unworthy.

Sorry to bring this up after a year but can I ask did the brainwashing ever change?