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When to expect toddler baby to start overnights with dad for first time

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Unexpectedlysinglemum · 26/06/2024 20:39

Please could people advise on their experiences of contact and court ordered progression to overnights for toddlers when one parents has never done overnights with the child.
Parents split during pregnancy but both (now) have PR (given to dad to avoid court, reluctantly).

Toddler (under 18m) has lived with mother with father usually visiting 1-2 times a week, takes toddler out and about to local parks etc. Has not yet taken toddler to own home which is about 45 mins away (his choice, still getting the new home ready apparently).

Father has recently shared he’s moved in with a new girlfriend and her children. Would now suddenly like the new arrangement to be 50/50 to mirror what new girlfriend’s children do with them.

Mother feels this is very sudden, toddler is not ready for this big living change, too much too soon, and also feels father has not yet enough experience of parenting and also he is not the most safety conscious or most sensible person and has volatile temper (only a tiny bit of concrete proof of this though). Baby still cries out for mum in the middle of the night and has never spent a night away from her.

Parents do not have a good relationship or communicate well, little trust either way. He has threatened and bullied her in the past and not listened to advice for keeping baby safe.

Father feels he has enough parenting experience now from spending time with new girlfriend’s older children so 50/50 would be ‘fair’ (he pays child maintenance very reluctantly despite it being far less than half the nursery fees).

Mediation is planned.

Has anyone been in a similar situation and it’s gone to court? Was 50/50 agreed? If not, what was agreed? If a progression was expected towards overnight and then longer periods away what age did that start and how long was the child separated from resident parent from from at first? What age did overnights start for the first time? What factors do they take into account when deciding?

I am wondering what I have to agree to now to avoid the risk of a court order of 50/50 or anything close to that which right now I don’t think is in babies interest to suddenly have a big change and not have the language to understand why or accept verbal reassurances. It’s great that baby enjoys afternoons out with his dad and they can bond then, but I feel that the bedtime routine and waking up next to mum is important to feel safe and secure. I also feel baby would be much happier with an overnight when he has more language.

Ps not looking for opinions on what’s right and wrong as I know people here will either think strongly 50/50 is best, regardless of a child’s normal routine up till now, or babies need to be with mums, I’m wondering if there is any actual examples from court as it’s a bit of an unusual one for someone to want nothing and then suddenly want everything. I’m just not sure what a court would think about this.

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Excited423 · 14/12/2024 14:22

Just checking in to see how it's all going?

rwalker · 14/12/2024 14:33

It’s a bit of a chicken and egg situation
they won’t be more settled till they’ve spent more time there but there not staying there because there unsettled

treading very carefully out kids are our world but it does them no favours be over dependant on one person constantly

Redburnett · 14/12/2024 14:38

These threads amaze me. A woman likes a man enough to have sex with him and get pregnant and have a baby with him. Presumably she thinks he will be a competent father, and keep his child safe. Yet not much later this man is a person not to be trusted to look after his own child. I do not understand it.

MiseryIn · 14/12/2024 15:30

Mine started at about 18 months. Just one overnight at week to start.

Nc546888 · 20/12/2024 10:44

Redburnett · 14/12/2024 14:38

These threads amaze me. A woman likes a man enough to have sex with him and get pregnant and have a baby with him. Presumably she thinks he will be a competent father, and keep his child safe. Yet not much later this man is a person not to be trusted to look after his own child. I do not understand it.

That’s not fair. People don’t always show their true colours at the beginning

WhatIDoIsEnough · 02/01/2025 00:39

My eldest stayed with his df overnight from the week we split up. Eldest was 2 at the time.
Ex got a place of his own. Stayed 1 night a fortnight, increasing to 2 after 6 months.

CerysStacey99 · 09/08/2025 03:49

TableTabler · 26/06/2024 23:08

Court will award 50/50 usually unless there's a safeguarding issue. He has pr so they will start at 50/50

No they won’t!!! Ignore this m0ron please. I spoke to a solicitor just for advice in relationship to my daughter’s contact with her dad (sounds similar to your situation but she is nearly 2 now) and they told me there’s absolutely no reason to let her go overnight to her dad’s until she is at least 3.
If he’s never had her overnight before or even had her at his house it may be supervised visitation in a centre that the courts deem the best option, especially if you have concerns about his abilities to look after her. Stick to your guns 🥰

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