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Need to take drastic action - advice please!!

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SaltnPepperxo · 11/06/2024 18:52

This is my first time posting on mumsnet so hope I don't make a mistake. I'm writing this post half to rant and half to seek advice about mine and DS current living situation. My DS has just turned 2.

For some background, I'm 22 and my older brother who I currently live with is in his 40s. I also live with my mother who's in her 60s and isn't the most independent or up to date with the modern world. When I was pregnant with DS, my poor mum's marriage broke down and my "father" in a cruel act kicked her out of our family home. We have owned an apartment for many years which my brother has lived in for over 10 years without paying rent or working in that period. My mum had to move in with him, to the apartment she owns, and shortly after when my relationship with DS dad turned domestically abusive I had to move in with my mum and brother too (with DS, obviously).

This brings us to today. My brother is chronically depressed because he has refused to work for 10 years and is now stuck in the apartment with me, my mother and a 2 year old. It's a small apartment, and he spends mostly all day everyday sitting in the kitchen moping. I can't think of a better word. He does nothing but stare at his phone and complain. He has no partner, no friends that want to be around him anymore and refuses to get a job. He has a different excuse everytime he's questioned. He owes all of his issues to the current housing crisis in Ireland and will essentially refuse to take any accountability or responsibility over his own life. He will get incredibly agitated at times and has "blown up" while driving with my son in the back seat, swerving all over the road and saying "I'd be better if all of you weren't here" I'm walking on eggshells in the apartment and trying to keep my son quiet constantly.

This is having a seriously negative impact on my mental wellbeing and that of my child. My brother collects arcade machine cabinets from the 80s and has 5 full sized cabinets in our kitchen which have been there for years. The apartment is in complete disarray, couches falling apart, no decorations, beds falling apart, no Internet, no TV channels, hardly any kitchen utensils and the kitchen table is covered in random belongings of his.

He feels obligated to give myself and my mum lifts because he drives and we don't, and live quite far from the town. He complains about his life and how he's doing nothing but giving us lifts everywhere, but absolutely refuses to do anything about it.

I think you all get the picture by now, it's just an utterly miserable living situation and I can't escape it, I'm saving to rent somewhere but can't actually afford much of what's on the rental market, meanwhile my brother has lived in this apartment without working or paying rent for 10 years. My mum is besotted by him and "babies" him and cannot see what the rest of the family see in him, so asking her to ask him to leave and find his own place is pointless.
The constant negativity is actually exhausting and makes me feel like I'm going insane sometimes. I just want to get up with my DS and eat breakfast at the table with him. I want to be able to sit in my sitting room and watch TV.

The situation is at breaking point and I'm thinking of doing something really drastic to change it but I don't know what. Please somebody give me some advice on this situation, can I contact womens aid? Probably not because walking on eggshells isn't considered abuse? I just need out of this situation, nobody can understand the impact until you've lived with somebody like this

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Squiggles23 · 11/06/2024 19:04

Hi @SaltnPepperxo,

Oh no sounds like a bad situation. I think you have to try and (slightly) see things from your brothers side. He’s having to share a small space which was previously his with 3 people, including a toddler. He sounds like his probably has depression and is stuck in a deep rut of not doing anything. He will be resenting you all being there.

I don’t know enough about support in Ireland but definitely worth contacting housing associations/local council/women’s aid to see if there are any low cost options. I think you could speak about the previous domestic abuse to women’s aid and just say you are temporarily staying with your brother but it’s a small space and not sustainable.

Does he use the 80s machines? Could they go into storage in someone’s garage for a while if not to give you all a bit more space? Surely some of these things like internet and tv channels can be fixed?

CarolineFields · 11/06/2024 19:08

do you have a job? That is probably your best route to independence, particularly if you have a mother locally who might be able to help out a bit with child care, or at least with nursery pick ups?

CarolineFields · 11/06/2024 19:08

are you working right now? What are you working as? What are your qualifications? what are your prospects?

Sunshine1500 · 11/06/2024 19:09

id move out and get my own place. It’s up to your mum to tell him to get rid of the clutter and maintain the flat if he’s living there .

UnbeatenMum · 11/06/2024 19:16

In England you could make a homelessness application to your local council but I'm afraid I'm not sure how the system works in Ireland. Is there council housing or anything like that that you could get on the list for? In England there are also discretionary grants that you could apply for e.g. to pay your deposit on a privately rented place. I think you definitely need some housing/homelessness advice - perhaps there's a charity or other organisation that could help you?

UnbeatenMum · 11/06/2024 19:18

I also think there's no harm in contacting women's aid for a conversation. Dangerous driving and shouting while your 2yo is present definitely sounds abusive.

Apileofballyhoo · 11/06/2024 19:23

Have you presented as homeless to the council? Unfortunately you'll probably only be offered a hotel as the way Ireland is now all the tourists stay in houses and all the people who need houses stay in hotels. Just look at what's available to rent on air bnb versus daft.ie.

How many bedrooms has the apartment got?

SaltnPepperxo · 11/06/2024 19:41

CarolineFields · 11/06/2024 19:08

are you working right now? What are you working as? What are your qualifications? what are your prospects?

I'm a registered nurse working in the cardiology department of my regional hospital. I probably should have mentioned this but this flat is not owned by my brother, its my mums flat and he was only meant to live in it for a period of 6 months when he originally moved here to find a job. He ended up getting too comfortable I think and that never happened in the end and 10 years on my mum and I desperately need the space but can't use it. I have the money there to rent my own place, but there's a housing shortage where I live and it's borderline impossible to find somewhere, if I did find somewhere I would be looking at rents of 1,300 per month and up, I'm currently paying for 3 full days a week of childcare as well as covering most of the household bills due to my brother being unemployed and my mum being on illness benefit. It's just frustrating because my brother recognises that he is creating a very toxic home environment, but won't do anything to change it, even if he got a job in a shop to help with bills and to improve his mood on a day to day basis I would be happy. I've lived with chronic and debilitating depression before and can understand how he feels, but it's gone on for too long and is effecting everyone around him, I should mention as well that I've tried to get him mental help and he has refused all advice and care

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CarolineFields · 11/06/2024 20:41

wow, your brother really is the spanner in the works here, isn't he. You say you tiptoe round him on eggshells. What happens if you don't? What if you just take ownership of the space? how many rooms are there?

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