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Can you ever be a single parent and be ok financially?

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callmewhatyoulike · 04/04/2008 00:08

I now work virtually full time, I hardly ever buy new, I conserve as much energy as I can, I shop (mostly) for value foods and hardly ever eat out, we hardly ever go out (certainly not to things that you have to pay for), I don't smoke, I don't drink a lot and yet I always run out of money each month.

What am I doing wrong??

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madamez · 04/04/2008 00:34

You're in a low-paying job, basically. Being a single parent tends to mean that one can't work lots of unpaid overtime (which is what 'being flexible' generally means) but the present state of the economy - high housing costs and low wages at the bottom end of the spectrum - mean that lots of people are broke whether or not they are parents - or single.

callmewhatyoulike · 04/04/2008 15:45

Maybe that's all it really is. It's hard enough finding work that doesn't require that pound of flesh that you just can't give being a single parent, let alone one that's highly paid.

It's just quite depressing when i feel i'm really trying, i'm sure lots of others are in the same situation though.

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lostdad · 04/04/2008 15:49

My ex is a single parent, doesn't work and manages to own and pay for a horse, so I guess some are OK financially.

SmugColditz · 04/04/2008 15:52

Try to find your money leaks. You'll have them.

Write down EVERYTHING you buy, and see what's going out that is non essential.

From my calculations, sadly working on a low wage as a single parent does not leave you much better off than on benefits

Bumblelion · 04/04/2008 15:54

I am a single parent with 3 children and actually find I am better off now than when I was with my husband as he contributes towards the children/childcare/mortgage so I actually have more disposable income than I did when I was with him.

I work part time (4 days a week) but still manage to have holidays, etc.

I am not trying to rub your nose in it, but it could be that I am fairly well paid for the job that I do.

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Anna8888 · 04/04/2008 15:57

In reply to the OP - only if you have an extremely well paid job or you get a hell of a lot of alimony.

One of my single parent friends has a lovely lifestyle which she pays for herself (ex h is penniless) but she has a really well paid job and free childcare (her mother).

OverMyDeadBody · 04/04/2008 15:57

WellI'm a single parent, work formyself, and don't run out of money, although everythingis carefully budgetted and I rarely buy new. We don't want for anytihng though, but I'm not at all materialistic.

I could work more hours and earn more, but choose to work less and be around for DS.

I was in apoorly-paid job before and that was hard. It left me no better off than if I'd been on benefits.

allgonebellyup · 04/04/2008 18:01

im single and am much better off on my own, my ex was crap with money, it used to make me worry through the night.

i work part time and earn enough to pay my half of the mortgage (i think its wrong that the absent father should be expected to pay the whole mortgage), bills, car, and still have enough to spend on clothes now and then, and also save for our holiday abroad this summer. Tax credits help too.

My job is not v well paid (£8 an hour after tax)but i do ok!

Islamum · 04/04/2008 18:09

Your problem is you're working! my brothers ex doesnt work, has a bigger house than me, runs a car gets her nails done and goes out and get bladdered every other weekend when he has the kids! I'm sure that claiming benefits works out better than paying tax

hellsbells76 · 04/04/2008 18:10

make sure you're definitely claiming all the benefits you're entitled to, inc. tax credits, council tax single person discount etc, they make a massive difference. i'm a single parent and while i'm hardly flush, i have enough for us all to live in and for the odd treat, my job isn't especially well paid either.

allgonebellyup · 04/04/2008 18:36

Islamum, that hardly seems fair does it? But i dont think her living solely off benefits could fund her lavish lifestyle?
Does your brother have to pay her a lot?

allgonebellyup · 04/04/2008 18:38

by the way, love the name Isla, it was the name we had chosen for our 2nd child - but he turned out to be a boy!!

littlewoman · 08/04/2008 03:18

Trust me, benefits do not pay for a lifestyle like that. She has other money coming in from somewhere, or else her kids are going hungry, or bills unpaid.

littlewoman · 08/04/2008 03:20

I'm at uni and get child tax credit before anyone thinks bad things about me

MadameCh0let · 08/04/2008 07:54

I do that too. I have a notebook, and everytime I spend even E4.04 at the supermarket, I write it down.

It stops me getting nasty surprises. Sometimes you go to your bank and the slip tells you have some money, and for a second you feel happy and buy yourself something, but then it turns out that your big shop just hasn't been debited/processed.

Doncha jus love the way people (who are happily married to a wealthy man usually) sometimes think that you could afford luxuries on benefits???

MadameCh0let · 08/04/2008 07:58

As in the case of LostDad's ex, usually if single mums are keeping their heads above water, it is because they are receiving maintenance.

That's not me. I get £1 a month from my ex. He savours the opportunity to insult me each month with that little standing order.

However if some single mothers are managing financially, and not struggling financially, it shouldn't BOTHER people the way it does.

All around me I see a lot of wealth. It shouldn't make people want to stand up and rant with begrudgery if occassionally a single mother appears to have some money.

AMAZINWOMAN · 08/04/2008 08:31

I think if you have high housing costs and no maintenance then it is really hard. Unfortunately I fall into both traps!!

alittleone2 · 08/04/2008 08:46

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Idontwanttobeinsecureanymore · 08/04/2008 08:50

LD you don't know what other help she's having from family & friends etc.

to the outside world I'm coping very well - but the truth is i'm very good at covering things up.

Janos · 08/04/2008 10:31

I'm a working single mum and I do OK. I certainly don't earn a fabulous salary but I do get tax credits (as others have said, make sure you get what you are entitled to) which helps enormously.

I'm also very lucky that my mum is well off and helps me out with money every month, not a huge amount but it really makes a difference.

I also do the shopping/buying in bulk. if you have any sort of internet access then I find grocery shopping online very helpful. It means I buy just what I need and don't browse, which often ends up with me buying a tonne of 'treat' foods that I don't need!

gillybean2 · 08/04/2008 11:08

Depends what your definition of ok financially is.

I feel i do ok financially, but i get my hair cut once a year, i wear rubber flipflops rather than shoes never get takeaways and can't have friends over as i can't afford food/drink for guests. When we do go out anywhere it's always a childbased activity for my son (zoo/cinema etc) and I do not buy food or drink while we are out, we take our own to keep costs down. I don't smoke or drink either.

People who seem to be doing ok are more than likely living on credit or working cash in hand. A recently single mum i know told me she cut up her creditcard after going on a £200 clothes shopping spree coz she was feeling down. I could never allow myself to get in debt like that, knowing I wouldn't be able to pay it back and paying out money on interest and charges is like throwing money in the bin to me. If i can't afford it i don't buy it.

So while i do ok financially i could be a lot more comfortable and more money coming in would allow me to have a more normal life and certainly some kind of social life. It would also stop people asking me if my feet aren't cold when i'm wearing flipflops all winter long!

I would suggest you look at your situation with a fine tooth comb. I recently dropped some of my hours at work as perversley it made me no worse off financially to work less hours. My WTC went up and the reduced salary meant less tax to pay too. Less travel expenses and less to pay out for holiday child care etc meant overall i was about the same financially as before but got to have a day at home each week instead! I also had to turn down a pay rise for the same reason, that it would actually leave me worse off financially! My boss was very understanding and gave me a free place in the staff car park instead which i don't get taxed on and i don't have parking to pay for now. So think about speaking to your human resorces department and seeing what they might be able to suggest in terms of maximising your income while minimising the tax you have to pay.

Speak to the CAB and see if they can help you with the figures as far as checking you have all you are entitled too as far as benefits go, especially WTC & CTC which are impossible to calculate your entitlement from the vague info the benefit people give you on them. You might find droppinga few hours makes you better off.

Also are you getting all the maintenance your children are entitled too? If not look at sorting this out. You owe it to yor children to ensure they are provided for properly by your ex.

And then i'm afraid it's time to tackle your spending and work out where your money goes and what you can cut back on. List everything you spend for a month. Do you have a cup of coffee when you go out at lunch time? Can you make your own sandwiches rather than buying lunch while at work? Get your children to make birthday & christmas cards rather than buying them. You may already have done things like this, but it can be useful to look at your spending and see where it all goes.

I budget severly and put money aside each month for emergencies.
It is very hard, but you have to ask yourself how much money would be enough for you to consider yourself as being 'ok financially'. Everyone always thinks they could use a bit more, but try and live to what you have and make the most of it.

Best of luck
Gilly

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callmewhatyoulike · 13/04/2008 20:42

You know I am going to write down all my outgoings as it has to be leaking from somewhere. I am getting slightly more money coming in that i did a year ago so by all means I should have a little extra cash.

Being 'ok' financially in my mind is not having to check your bank balance before you dare buy anything incase you go over your overdraft and be charged extra.

All your suggestions and advice are brilliant, many thanks.

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Nighbynight · 13/04/2008 21:34

I am a single parent and am ok financially at the moment.
This is really only because we moved to Germany, where housing costs are more reasonable than in the UK.

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