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How long 'til they accept it's over?

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Ilovesleep · 02/03/2008 20:10

It's been almost 6mths since xp and I split up. He's swung from being particularly nasty, to being really nice, to very quiet & standoffish. I never know which xp I'm going to get.

At the beginnning he tried every tactic to try to get me to take him back. Being extra nice, promising to 'change', threatening me , offering me dream holidays. I thought he was finally accepting that we were finished, but this weekend he's been literally begging me to take him back.

I can understand that it must be bloody hard to leave the family home, to have to give your children back at the end of the weekend.

I had about an hour yesterday & 2 hours today of him crying, telling me he loves me, he's sorry, he wants us to give it a chance. It's like a broken record. I don't want to be nasty. I've told him it's over, that we won't be getting back together. I've never ever made out anything else may happen.

There's no way I'm backing down on this one! It's just making me feel like I'm the bad guy. I keep telling him that he needs to forget about 'us' so that he can start moving on & making his own life. It'll just make it so much easier for me too once he has accepted we're over and, not even moved on and met someone else, just getting on with his life.

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allgonebellyup · 02/03/2008 21:25

oh god, your ex sounds like me! i admit i go from being really nice (trying to win him back) to being v nasty (jealous of his new relationship, and her closeness to my ds), to trying to keep away from the situation and being silent for days.

i know you must feel like youre being made to look the bad guy but it is so painful to be rejected..especially with kids involved.

Why did you split in the first place, can i ask?

birky · 02/03/2008 21:31

Sounds like me today - god help me.

Took his mums mothers day card n present from DD and he was there and DD was really excited to see him so I bit my tongue and stayed for half an hour. For once he was civil. I gave him a lecture about maintenance and his behaviour as a father and he seemed to take it all in.

Unfortunately seeing him has brought all my feelings to the surface and have cried and cried since I came home.

He texted me saying he does love DD and she will always be number 1 to him n that he wants to get on for her sake. I texted back being quite nasty and have now changed to I miss you I love you blah blah - after everything he put me through. Wish I could just wake up one morning and be over him

fuzzywuzzy · 02/03/2008 21:36

Oh dear God, six months!!!

My ex, is trying to get family and friends to get me to let him back....
I have absolutely no emotion for him whatsoever, I want him out of my life ASAP, I do not hate him, I do not love him I do not feel anything in between either....I'm hoping he'll get the message sooner than six months.... He started by being really nasty, and then moved to the begging stage. For him I think it's about control more than anything else, ie he now has none over me, and that appears to mightily pee him off..........

allgonebellyup · 02/03/2008 21:51

birky you sound like me too.. sometimes i let him come in for a cup of tea and a chat, then he says he is still not coming back. so then i get all nasty and bitchy, and say its time for him to go.
then i cry and cry

though i have to admit that this week my feelings seem to be changing slightly and i am thinking about him a bit less..

Ilovesleep · 02/03/2008 22:04

fuzzy.. I feel like that. There don't seem to be any real feelings there for him at all. I don't want to see him hurting, I just want him to get on with his life & 'forget' about me. How long have you been split?

allgone..Why did we split? So many reasons going on over so many years. I always felt he put his mates before his family, even before ds1 was born (he is now 6.5). The last 17 days of my pregnancy he was out with mates. It pretty much went on from there. HIs mates would call him, and he'd jump, be straight round there, yet if I wnated him to do something, it would be moaning and may finally get done 2 months later when I pretty much forced him to do it.

He used to drink a lot. He would be out probably 4 nights a week, and quite often during the day if he had a 'spare' 1/2 hour.

He smoked a lot of weed, basically as someone else would smoke normal fags. He got us into a huge amount of debt over it. He also used to skin up in front of the boys, which as you can imagine I hated. I'd tell him not to do it, he'd do it outside for a day or two, then be back in the front room skinning up.

The spending money was a huge problem obviously.

We never did anything together, whether that be as a couple or as a family. He has no family down here to babysit, and my parents couldn't babysit cos of my dads working hours and my mum doesn't drive. He would never let any friends babysit either, so we never had a life as a couple which probably put a huge strain on things. As he wanted to spend his day off with his mates we never went for days out as a family, not even to the beach which is a 10 min walk away!

I had my bags packed on a few occasions, but promises to spend time with us & another occasion where he took ds1 from me and physically wouldn't let me have him, and I didn't want to upset ds1 anymore so stayed. He doesn't remember any of this though, thinks it all came out of the blue.

Ultimately, I ended up cheating on him. I know I was wrong to do that, I didn't do it to get at him, or even see it as a way out. It was an escape for a few hours a couple of times a week.

Even when he found out, he still wanted to make it work, but I really didn't, and in the end the affair did become my excuse to leave. It ended finally after a bad day of toing & froing, and he came back to the house, slammed the front door on me, scared the hell out of the boys and gave me a kicking. I know he regrets the violence, but thinks that that night is my sole reason for not taking him back.

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Ilovesleep · 02/03/2008 22:09

I'm sure I did things wrong over the years as well, although he can't give me any specifics if I did. He says there was a lack of affection on my part, which I agree there was, but not sure if the lack of affection from me came before his 'neglect' of us/me or before. Did him spending time with his mates cause me to not show affection or vice versa?

That's the only thing he says that I could change.

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fuzzywuzzy · 02/03/2008 22:25

I've been split from ex for about a month now. He was actually becoming increasingly violent, and ended up on police bail, which was the spur I needed to get him out of my life permanently, I have an injunction against him, hence his use of family and friends to try and worm his way back, but too much water under the bridge, and I've taken to letting friends know it is most definitely over, and if they want to remain friends they dont mention him in front of me..... same with well meaning family members.

TLV · 03/03/2008 18:40

can i join in with this one please coz like allgone I've been the exact same, its very hard but let me ask you how many of you still sleep together even tho you've split, I have tried to cease all contact with stbx dh and just have him pick/drop off dd. I received a letter from the mediators this morning and not sure what to do next

allgonebellyup · 04/03/2008 10:15

oh god no we have NEVER slept together after we had split, i would be in heaven if we had! no, he doesnt even make eye contact with me now.

TVL did you still sleep with your ex?

TLV · 04/03/2008 14:44

yes I did on numerous occasions and apparently it wasn't just sex according to him! my solicitor was gobsmacked when I told her this morning and she said she certainly hadn't heard of it happening when someone is divorcing (tho how many people admit it I don't know)

Pinkchampagne · 04/03/2008 17:09

My ex appears to be accepting everything quite well, including my new relationship, which surprised me. He still has a very close relationship with my family though, and is round my parents more often than I am.
My family think the world of him & won't accept my new relationship, and ex H seems to be encouraging it, so I guess he still feels he has the upper hand.

I have never slept with my ex since we separated (we lived together for nearly a year after making the decision to separate too), and I really wouldn't have wanted to! I imsgine that must totally do your head in!

TLV · 04/03/2008 17:45

yep it does, there is still something between us, infact and I'm very to say it happened on Sunday night, not very good for either of us tho

allgonebellyup · 04/03/2008 20:27

TLV is there no way you could get back together with him?

Im guessing that neither of you have new partners then?

TLV · 04/03/2008 21:08

don't think so, he is pretty adamant that it couldn't work, i said on sun that i'd always put him and dd first, he said no you put her first and fair enough for first 6mths to a year but not 2/5yrs old!!

No we haven't, well I don't but couldn't say 100% for him but he says he hasn't and if i'm honest i think he is telling the truth, signed the divorce papers today

Pinkchampagne · 04/03/2008 22:36

How long have you been separated, TLV? (sorry if you have already said as I haven't read whole thread) Did you both want to go for divorce?

littlewoman · 04/03/2008 22:43

Can i say exactly how self-absorbed that remark of your xp's sounded, TLV. Does he honestly think he needs as much attention as a 2.5 year old?

Pinkchampagne · 04/03/2008 23:06

I thought the same about that remark too, LW.

TLV · 05/03/2008 07:07

4mths and i never wanted the divorce, totally agree with you LW but the stupid git expects me to call him about dd development and even let him babysit!!

TLV · 05/03/2008 07:10

he was going to call me last night but didn't (was on the phone for a while tho) but still he could have tried.

I just hope that when he finally get what he wants its not all he's hoped it was

TLV · 05/03/2008 07:12

Ilovetosleep, those are quite normal emotions that you have described for a person to experience when someone has split from them, I've been all those in the first few months of dh leaving me, angry upset then talking and then not wanting to talk to him, will soon dimish over time, there is a good website called divorceaid which explains the emotions that people can go thro on the break up of marriage/relationship
however violence is certainly not one of them!

allgonebellyup · 05/03/2008 07:37

only 4 months and you are already signing the divorce papers? i thought you had to be separated 2 years?

isheisnthe · 05/03/2008 07:43

I slept with my exp to while we were still selling the house - the last time being about 6 months after he had initated the split - I have to say it made me feel like crap and also made me think there was still a chance - that he must still love me - there wasnt and he didnt.

The last time he got up, said "thats the last time we will do that" and went back and slept in the spare room. I thought - your dead right, that is the last time you wanker - and it was! Although he did try a few more times I never wanted to feel so cheap and used again by him

TLV · 05/03/2008 08:02

nope, he has divorced me for unreasonable behaviour because that way you get the divorce quicker, I refuted the reasons for it but i'm not contesting

allgonebellyup · 05/03/2008 10:52

your unreasonable behaviour? did he make that up?

TLV · 05/03/2008 19:34

they were just arguments that we'd had (as most married couples do) couple of the reasons were really taken out of context and untrue to a certain degree, but he said he had to think of something so he could get the divorce

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