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Dd "dad" is no use but now trying to make contact

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tiredtiredtiredd · 26/07/2022 17:15

This is a long one so please bare with me.

My dd's biological dad has always been not a very good parent, he is very selfish & always put himself & others before dd, I stayed in the relationship for years hoping he would change, he didn't! We split, the first few weeks he took dd to his new accommodation, then started changing the plans & letting her down, leaving her waiting, his excuses were not good enough, had a night out etc.

I told him if it continued I would go to a lawyer & get something drawn up legally regarding times etc, he let her down several more times so I sought legal advice, got a letter drafted to him stating his contact times etc, in the letter it stated our dd needed consistency & I would be willing to come & go on change of plans to a certain extent (as I know things can be booked in advance etc) but just for random nights out etc he would need to do them in his own time, he agreed, stuck to it for ONE week then changed the plans, ok I let it go, try again in 2 weeks. His weekend came around, he let dd down, silly excuse but I gave him another chance. Then a few weeks later, same situation, he let her down again, she was breaking her heart to me asking where he was, why wasn't he coming etc.

Christmas time came, he asked to see her for "an hour" on Christmas Eve, I agreed, dropped her off. She came home with a broken present as her Xmas gift. Said present was an old electronic device of a family member, dd couldn't even use it! I contacted him to ask if he could pay to get it fixed for her? I was told no! I said I would pay would he give me the money back? (I would provide receipt) no.

New Years came, he was supposed to have dd, nothing! Not even a message!

I told him I had had enough, he wasn't letting dd down again, so I wasn't letting him have access to her until he could be consistent, this was just not good enough! I contacted my lawyer who sent him a letter stating that until he could be consistent in her life then he wasn't to make any contact with her, if at a time when he decided he could be consistent, contact was to go through the lawyer.

He stopped paying child maintenance (it was only a direct bank transfer between us). Told me he was paying for a child he didn't see, I told him this is all your fault you have had chance after chance & let her down. Gave me lots of abuse (I can handle that, dd is all I care about).

I went through child maintenance service, he got a letter from them & contacted me asking me to drop it, I said no, this way it's all done properly, meaning u won't pay too much or too little etc. he agreed, he pays every week.

A few months ago he asked again if he could see dd as he "misses her" I stated that it should go through the lawyer but I negotiated that we could start with phone contact a few times a week at a certain time & see how they got on, he agreed & promised he would stick to it. We agreed on set times and days and I told him I would remind him, this was down to him. The FIRST time he was supposed to phone, he didn't! The next time he was supposed to phone, he didn't!! I had enough, told him no more chances go through a lawyer!

Fast forward a few months to now, he's now asking again if he can see her. I have told him several times, yes by all means, but take it through a lawyer so we have a legal agreement & your more likely to stick to it. He told me no. I said ok well no contact, you have messed her head up enough I'm not having it anymore.

I've told him several times I would love nothing more than for him to have a relationship with our dd, he just needs to put in the effort, but he doesn't. This is NOT about me & him.

What do I do?

Do I stick to my guns & make him go through the lawyer?

I want what's best for my dd, I don't want her breaking her heart to me again when he lets her down again. She's settled, she doesn't ask for him anymore, she knows her dad is being silly & hopefully will see sense 1 day. She's settled in school etc & doesn't miss out on anything.

Can anyone offer any advice please? Thanks

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Hopeandlove · 26/07/2022 17:19

I’d go for a contact centre and then it is supervised but state that the dates are these for the following month and if he doesn’t turn up - contact will stop immediately

ihavenocats · 26/07/2022 17:22

From what I've read this is a case of him trying to "get his money's worth" and it's exactly why I refused any offer of money when I first left my ex. I didn't want him to have this notion that 'I'm paying for her I will get my time with her'.

Thankfully he's been completely out of our lives since the beginning and I am married to a wonderful man with zero intervention from my abusive ex.

If I'd have taken the money in the beginning or pursued him during the past seven years I'm sure he would be sniffing around making mine and my daughter's life a misery.

I only want money and involvement with my child from people who give both freely, otherwise it will breed bitterness and possible retaliation.

tiredtiredtiredd · 26/07/2022 20:06

Thanks all. I am going to stop his payments as we don't need anything from him anyway: will have a look at my options see where I can go from here.

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TheFormidableMrsC · 26/07/2022 20:10

I'd tell him to apply to court. Don't stop the CMS payments. You are wasting your time and money trying to negotiate through a lawyer.

Hopeandlove · 26/07/2022 21:12

TheFormidableMrsC · 26/07/2022 20:10

I'd tell him to apply to court. Don't stop the CMS payments. You are wasting your time and money trying to negotiate through a lawyer.

Do not stop CMS payments.
finances and contact are separate in the eyes of the court - put it in a savings account or whatever

tiredtiredtiredd · 26/07/2022 21:38

Thanks all for the advice.

I was looking for reassurance that I was doing the right thing with still keeping contact stopped.

My dd is my whole world & believe me I have tried time & time again to get him to make an effort for dd sake, but he just isn't interested! Can't even send a simple message to ask how she is.

I just want what's best for my dd & trust me, he isn't it, which is sad in itself because I'm very close to my own father but sadly not everyone is the same.

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unicornsarereal72 · 27/07/2022 09:57

Money and contact are two separate things as already mentioned

You aren't going to make him step up. Some people are just flaky. He will always drop in and out like this. What you need to decide is. Is some contact better than non at all. At the moment you are saying be consistent or don't bother. You also need to manage your dd expectations.

My ex went through a few years of this. Not turning up and not responding to calls and messages. I stopped telling the children he was coming. Told him his day was Sunday at x time. If he didn't show in half an hour of the time we would get on with our day. And we would be available next Sunday at x time. The kids and I mostly got on with our own thing but they weren't aware he was 'due' so didn't feel the disappointment. But he occasional out in an appearance so they would spend time with him.

He now has new gf. So has stepped up and we have a good routine. Long may it last. But I wouldn't stop the contact completely. I just managed it. This seemed to work for us.

Going to court and solicitors is just costing ££. Again it may be a way of showing he has changed and wants to step up but nothing can make a parent see their child.

bbqhulahoop · 27/07/2022 10:08

Don't stop payments. Kids aren't pay per view. If you don't need the money save it for DD when she's older but he fathered a child and should pay for her (wish I could practice what I preached tho...) I wonder if his wish to see DD coincides with having a new partner and wanting to appear super dad then losing interest when it doesn't work out?

As long as you can tell DD when she's older that you never stood in the way of him seeing her but that he was inconsistent and you needed to protect her from that, I think you're doing everything right

tiredtiredtiredd · 27/07/2022 11:41

Thank you all for the advice.

I think I am leaning more towards sticking with my guns at the moment and insisting he contacts a lawyer or courts etc if he wants to see her, I have had enough of her breaking her heart and asking me why her dad isn't interested.

Maybe 1 day he will change his ways & then we can discuss contact.

Thanks again.

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