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STBX's girlfriend of 7.5 months is 7 months pregnant.

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peachymumof2 · 12/06/2021 18:47

My children's dad has got his new girlfriend pregnant.

BACK STORY:
Me and my children’s dad were together for 5.5years, we married young and are not yet divorced.
We have 2 children, one girl who just turned 4 and a boy who is nearly 3 and has special needs.
He left us in December 2019 with no explanation. Throughout 2020, we were very on and off, more so off. He chose to ignore me and all parental responsibilities. Also he kept jumping into different relationships, all of which became intense quickly.
May 2020 we reconciled for 3 months. In this time our son just managed to build up a tolerance to his father. In august 2020 stbx admitted himself to a mental health facility and was in there for 4 weeks. He cheated on me with a patient and this became intense quickly, but she called it off, he was planning to move in with her once discharged from hospital.
He had nowhere to live so he came back to mine, I offered this so he could continue working on the relationship with the children. We seemed to be getting on well and although we “weren’t together” our actions were still very much like a married couple.
He met his new gf in late Oct 2020 and had an overnight date. I couldn’t take the emotional abuse anymore and told him to leave.
He moved in with the new girlfriend instantly and stopped bothering with our children. Even though I was making them available for contact often. In a conversation with her, she told me she had no plans to get pregnant and wouldn’t do that to me or the children so soon, she also said due to her past experiences she knows how important it is to be careful before getting pregnant with just anyone (She had miscarried a few months previous with another partner). Turns out she fell pregnant within a week of this conversation.
Due to a lot of abusive behaviours, me and our children were suffering so I blocked his family in November and had a non molestation order granted against him in January. I found out the new gf was pregnant through someone showing me a social media post.
I’ve done a lot of healing in the 7 months of no contact, and our children are happy and thriving. I’m happy to have contact reinstated with him and his family providing there’s no more abuse or drama. It will take an awfully long time for my son to build these relationships back up, he is so scared of people he doesn’t know and seems to not know who is dad is, our son is also non verbal and has little communication skills so it’s tough to know. It will take our daughter a long time to build the trust up with him ,I believe, because she was so badly affected with the inconsistency last year.

It is my priority for the children to build up a relationship with their dad and paternal grandparents & aunties and uncle. Contact is to be supervised due to their dads mental health (as per SS conversation)
He has stated he’s happy for me to supervise contact and we are both in agreement that this could be the best route considering it would probably be too distressing for the children to go into a contact centre with strangers. I respect the fact that the new baby will be my children’s sibling and I will be happy for them to meet, however it needs to be in ways that aren’t confusing for our children, so I’ve proposed that once baby is born we don’t introduce him as a brother to start with as it will be too overwhelming given the circumstances. However, I am not in agreement with the new gf being introduced to our children yet, I feel it’s totally unnecessary at this point in time, the priority is for the dad and his family to create bonds with our children first. And given my ex’s history, I don’t want to introduce a new woman so quickly because he seems to bounce between different women frequently.
I have spoken to my ex a few times recently and he has made it abundantly clear that he has no intentions of staying with his new girlfriend, and he just needs somewhere to live, not only that, I have heard video recordings of their arguments and her being physically abusive to him. So I am in no way wanting to put my children in that environment after we have all spent the last 7 months healing from the emotional damage.
This makes it quite tricky, because I don’t want to stop a relationship between the 3 children, but I am not happy with the baby’s mum being around my children yet, and I’m not ready to be around her after some nasty things she has done either. And I totally respect that she may not want me around her baby, but I have to supervise the contact of the children with their dad for numerous reasons I am the only one who can facilitate this.

I’m not saying that this is going to be the case forever, but for now this is the situation and although the baby isn’t due until August, I don’t think my position on that will change by then. It’s much more important that my ex can prove his consistency with the children and his family can have the opportunity to build a relationship with them before we bring her involved. I can’t say I will still feel like this in 6 months time because so much can change but I don’t see this changing in the near future. I don’t want to be pressured into having her around my children, but equally I don’t want to be a reason my children don’t see or know their brother.

Any opinions / advice on the situation are very appreciated and welcomed.

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aSofaNearYou · 12/06/2021 19:27

I would have thought if he is going to break up with her, then this is unlikely to be an issue as any contact they have with their sibling will be through him. If they don't split up I don't think you can really demand she not be involved and hands over her baby for contact.

But I feel for you as they both sound awful!

peachymumof2 · 12/06/2021 19:53

@aSofaNearYou

I would have thought if he is going to break up with her, then this is unlikely to be an issue as any contact they have with their sibling will be through him. If they don't split up I don't think you can really demand she not be involved and hands over her baby for contact.

But I feel for you as they both sound awful!

Thank you for your response. It's such a tricky situation, because he is very unstable it's hard to know whether they will split or not but he has directly told me he will not be with her for much longer. Equally I know if they do stay together that I would totally understand if she wouldn't want me around her baby, but unfortunately he needs supervising around our children right now and likely will until he's proven his stability and not a threat to our children.

I suppose I'll just have to take each day as it comes and not worry about it at this moment, there is definitely no room for the girlfriend to be introduced while our children are building up their relationship with all of their relatives.

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GettingItOutThere · 13/06/2021 21:04

i think you are slightly overthinking this if possible, take a step back and remove yourselves (children) from the situation. Let your ex and girlfriend get on with it, block him on everything except an email and let him contact you for contact with the kids.

Other than that, you need to take him out of your head space

MindatWork · 13/06/2021 21:21

I’m happy to have contact reinstated with him and his family providing there’s no more abuse or drama.

What are the chances if this actually happening though? Honestly, he (and his family) sound like a nightmare and your poor kids have been through so much already.

If they’re thriving now I wouldn’t be in such a rush to start contact with their Dad again (is he pushing for it? Being proactive? Proving he’s in a better place?) and certainly wouldnt be worrying about how to facilitate a relationship with a new sibling.

7 months is not a long time. I’d be worried it would be the same drama and trauma for your children all over again.

peachymumof2 · 13/06/2021 21:30

@GettingItOutThere

i think you are slightly overthinking this if possible, take a step back and remove yourselves (children) from the situation. Let your ex and girlfriend get on with it, block him on everything except an email and let him contact you for contact with the kids.

Other than that, you need to take him out of your head space

I definitely am over thinking it haha, it's literally only been the last week that I've had anything to do with him since November/ December time. He's just so erratic that it's sent my head spinning with all of the information he's given me. I definitely need to step back again and if contact is to happen I need to put boundaries in place where it's purely based around the children, I've woken up with a much clearer head about it all. Thank you for responding x
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Starlightstarbright1 · 13/06/2021 21:32

I would be actually starting with Dad not all extended family.. it is a lot for these children.

Your priority is for the children to be happy and secure. It sounds like they all have failed.

You need to keep out his relationship with his girlfriend.. it doesn't sound great. I would expect Ss to be involved if he can't see your children unsupervised

peachymumof2 · 13/06/2021 21:35

@MindatWork he made an application to court for contact a few months ago, but because of the back log we haven't even received a hearing date. Also because of the protective order I have against him he hasn't been able to contact me. I only allowed contact this past week because of our daughters birthday.
I think I'm just thinking worst case scenario, which I have a tendency to do at first. I'm just going to have to put boundaries in place when he contacts me regarding the children and shut down any other types of conversation. Thank you for responding x

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peachymumof2 · 13/06/2021 21:40

@Starlightstarbright1 100% agree with you, there's only been any contact with extended family due to my daughters birthday and they asked to give her presents.

I'll make sure to shut down any conversations in regards to his new relationship, I have no desire to know the ins and outs or even be anywhere near his girlfriend. I assume social services will be involved with them at some point, but they shut the case with my children instantly when I said I wouldn't allow him to have unsupervised contact, so at the moment there is no involvement. Thank you for responding x

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Starlightstarbright1 · 13/06/2021 21:41

My ex had mh problems.. long story but he stopped contact was in pych hospital... probably final straw for me but my solicitor advised the longer no contact the better ..

Be aware what you accept will be very hard to backtrack on.

GertietheGherkin · 13/06/2021 21:58

You seem to be flip flopping all over the place with this... He's been in and out of your kids lives, you're getting non-molestation orders granted, your ex is unstable, and SS are saying "yeah, crack on, him seeing the kids is fine? Really?
How are you getting involved in listening to recordings of his domestics with his ex? Your children seem to be put into a whole heap of drama, and you're wanting to introduce a random baby to them, with no explanation of where it's come from? Your ex is unstable, and planning on walking out on his now on/off girlfriend, the baby is likely to go with her.
Just how much of this crap are you going to let your kids be subjected to?
I find it hard to believe that SS are seeing all of this as being in the best interest of your children.

peachymumof2 · 13/06/2021 22:46

@GertietheGherkin sorry I think I may have written things to sound confusing.
Social services were only briefly involved when my ex was in the mental health hospital in August 2020 and once more due to his mh in September 2020, they only phoned me to get an understanding of the situation and took it no further once I said there would be no unsupervised contact. I've had no involvement with the social services other than these two phone calls.
In November 2020 contact stopped completely with the children. In January my ex was served with a non mol.
In March he actually breached the order and the police gave him the advice that he was allowed to be in contact about the children and there would be no repercussions. Which is the only reason I've allowed contact in the last week due to our daughters birthday.
Unfortunately due to the fact I'm a non confrontational person and the way he is, it's quite easily done for conversations to get off track, all of the info I have put in my post I have only found out this week and now I'm more than aware I need to put boundaries in. He's insisting that he's going to be consistent for our children now, and I've been told that as a mother I must make the children available for contact because he has PR.

I'm just trying to do my best for my children given the circumstances, it's not an ideal situation that he has another child on the way but I can't just pretend that the child isn't going to be a half sibling, if their dad and paternal side of the family will have a lot to do with the new child, I can't act as though the baby doesn't exist. I think my head is just all over the place with it all. I'm just trying to figure out what's best for my children, but I'm not going to put them in a situation where it's not in their best interests and nothing on my end will be done off of a whim for them

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peachymumof2 · 13/06/2021 22:53

And of course I'm not on about the baby being introduced instantly. It's going to take a lot of time for my children to build up a relationship with their dad first, I'm just over thinking about all the other issues far too soon.
I'm so worried about how they may react to this new baby, it's all so confusing for them and the last thing I want to do is get them involved in any messy situations. My children have been kept as far out of this all as possible, they're none the wiser to any of it

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DelphiniumBlue · 13/06/2021 23:09

This sounds very unsettling for you and the children, who are still only very young.
I think, if you really feel it is beneficial for the children to see him, that you offer short but regular contact, supervised by you, but not in your home. Maybe in a park, or somewhere public.. Maybe an hour or two at a time, a couple of times a week. Pre-arranged times. The onus is then on him to show up regularly, and on time, and to show he can be reliable. Something tells me he won't manage this, but meanwhile you don't have to have him disrupting your home life, and the children can feel safe in their own home.
Don't get involved in discussions around his relationships, the new baby , or anyhthing further in the future than the next few days.
Who knows if he will stay with the the girlfriend, or if she will allow him to see the new baby longterm. He needs to show consistency with his existing children for a reasonable amount of time before you even contemplate introducing new girlfriend and baby. By reasonable amount of time, I'm thinking a year or more. So much has happened during their short lives, they need you to protect from this disaster of a man.

peachymumof2 · 13/06/2021 23:12

@DelphiniumBlue
Thank you, I agree. I would never allow him in our home again because it's just too intrusive for me and the children, they need to know their home is a safe space. I also think he won't stick to it, but don't want it to look like I'm being bitter either.
Thank you for you advice, I appreciate it x

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DelphiniumBlue · 13/06/2021 23:21

peachymumof2, I really feel for you. You are clearly trying to look at it from every angle and doing your best to be fair, but the whole situation is chaotic. I don't think you can afford to be worrying about being fair to him; all your energies have to be directed towards making life secure and settled for your children. It sounds like you've been through a really traumatic time, and you've done so well in very difficult circumstances. Do what you need to in order to keep yourself sane!

MindatWork · 13/06/2021 23:32

He sounds like a nightmare op, well done for getting away. Are you planning to divorce at some point? I’d make that a priority so he can’t try and wheedle his way back in.

I agree with @DelphiniumBlue - I’d worry less about what’s fair and whether your children ‘should’ have a relationship with their extended family and more about whether it’s in their best interests and how it will impact them if it all goes wrong again.

Bearing in mind how mediocre a father he’s been so far to your DC, I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s not involved with new baby either... (especially as he’s told you he’s planning on breaking up with her soon which is super weird and inappropriate).

Apologies if that sounds harsh!

peachymumof2 · 13/06/2021 23:44

@MindatWork thank you, it was only once I had no contact that I realised the extent of the emotional abuse. Thankfully I realised before any severe damage was done.
Currently half way through divorce proceedings, I applied in November, he was refusing to sign and only done so in May. I can apply for the decree absolute mid July I believe.

It is so true, I need to stop worrying about what is fair for him, when I've given him untold amounts of opportunities to be a father to the children. It's actually surprised me just how unstable he is, the conversation I've had with him has made me realise just how impulsive and unstable his thoughts are and it's crazy to think I was once wrapped up in it all and living that kind of life with him.

I really appreciate everyone's comments, it makes it so much easier to get others opinions on the situation, it makes me 100% sure that I have done the right thing by keeping my children out of it all! I need to remember that he isn't a typical dad, so any contact I have stopped isn't unfair on the children.

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Creamteayesplease · 14/06/2021 00:00

What a horrible situation and I commend you for wanting your kids to build a relationship with their dad. However, his behaviour towards you and the children and also his attitude to his new partner’s pregnancy is ringing all sorts of alarm bells - I would urge you to take a step back and think what is currently in the best interest of the children. If this was happening to one of your friends what would you advise them to do? The kids have been thriving without their father for 7 months now, why give your ex visitation now while his life is still in turmoil? He needs to focus on his own mental health first and sort out his current situation, before rebuilding a relationship with the children. You’re obviously a very kind hearted and loving mum who wants the best for your children. Sadly, their father has to be ready to parent otherwise your poor children could be let down by him once again and this could be very damaging for them. So please give the situation some more time to settle before facilitating contact and also wait for him to be proactive in wanting to see his children. It seems like you’re doing all the hard work on this.

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