Meet the Other Phone. Flexible and made to last.

Meet the Other Phone.
Flexible and made to last.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Lone parents

Use our Single Parent forum to speak to other parents raising a child alone.

How did you explain to your young children that their parent doesn't want to see them anymore?

9 replies

Throwawayname84 · 20/01/2021 03:17

Been around for ages, just changed name in case exh is lurking (he's been making some bizarre threats so just in case)
Two children, 6 and 5. Oldest has a bond with his Dad, youngest doesn't really care if he sees him or not (Exh left when I was pregnant with the youngest so never really properly bonded and DS knows it)

Contact used to be regular, eow but that was it, never anything extra or anything to help out if I needed it (he's never taken time off work if kids were ill for example and has a habit of buggering off for the entire summer holidays so I need to scramble for childcare at the last minute, that sort of thing)

Anyway, recently his mental health hasn't been great (he says), or possibly there's a personality disorder or he could just be a dick who just doesn't want to be a dad anymore. Regardless, about four weeks ago he claimed he couldn't have the kids on his own due to his medication making him unsafe to look after them unsupervised. He then said the next day that actually he would take them and he was also contacting a solicitor. Due to lots of other erratic behaviour and the fact that he told me he was unsafe I said he would need to be supervised until he could be cleared by a doctor to have them on his own. Since then I haven't heard a peep from him. Nothing from his solicitor either. I suspect the solicitor doesn't exist and it was an attempt to scare/bully me (history of controlling/abusive behaviour)

So...oldest child is now starting to ask when he'll be seeing Dad. He's autistic so needs to know routine and straightforward explanations etc. He also is very very anxious where his Dad is concerned, will often wake up crying that he's scared his Dad is ill or going to die (hence me posting at stupid o clock) and also says that if he 'glitches' he can't keep his Dad safe. It's concerning and means I have to tread carefully about any sort of mention of Dad being 'ill' or similar.
Youngest doesn't really care if he sees Dad again or not and has said so, he has told me that he would rather stay with me always than sleep at Daddy's so I suppose less of a concern with telling him but equally he's very little to be cutting contact completely!

So I'm a bit stuck as to what to say to them because the truth is I don't know myself. I don't know what their dad is planning, whether he's suddenly going to make contact or whether this is it and he's done. Due to the history of coercion and control I need to tread carefully with contacting him and asking about his plans because that could then easily become a game for him or he'll use it as a threat or similar. I don't want him doing that to the kids.

Sorry this is really long and convoluted, but any tips on what to say? Currently I'm going with 'Daddy is working on being able to have you and he knows that I will keep you very safe in the meantime' or similar but I know that's not going to work for the oldest for much longer. I have never slagged their dad off to them and don't intend to start now, I just need to find a neutral way to explain some really shitty behaviour. Fucking arsehole.

OP posts:
FortunesFave · 20/01/2021 03:41

I wouldn't approach it from the point that he doesn't want to see them any more.

To be fair (awful or not) he hasn't actually said that has he? The Dad I mean.

I know his behaviour indicates that though.

Considering your older son's autism and his fears for his Dad's health I would go with something like "Daddy's job is very busy and so he just hasn't got any spare time...it doesnt mean he doesn't love you though"

Rinse and repeat.

As they get older and used to not seeing him (and I thikn it's better if he's out of their lives as he's not doing either of them any good) you can introduce the idea of mental health and how it affects him.

Talking about that with them now will be too confusing and could make your older son more scared.

The biggest issue of course would be that he resurfaces and demands contact or goes to court for it.

So with that in mind, see if you can get a court order in place...do you have the message he sent about medication and not being safe with the kids?

MollyBloomYes · 20/01/2021 14:27

Yes, all WhatsApp messages have been backed up and all emails are saved. I didn't realise I could get a court order without going to mediation first, that might be something I look into thank you.

I like the idea of blaming work, they'd be used to that as he has increasingly booked meetings on Friday evenings for 'his' weekend so they're used to delaying going to Daddy's because he has to work.

Thanks for the advice. In all honesty I hope he doesn't come back despite me trying very hard over the last 5 years to facilitate their relationship. But I think it's better to be a little bit sad and angry about not having a parent in your life than massively screwed up by having an unsuitable one dipping in and out and I think we're at the crunch point now.

Kanaloa · 20/01/2021 14:38

How upsetting. I was ‘lucky’ that my ex left when mine were toddler & baby so I never had to explain as such. I agree with maybe saying he is so busy at the moment. Or maybe something like he needs to be alone right now to have time to think but mummy is here to look after you? It’s so hard, because you shouldn’t have to cover for him or make him look better but at the same time it’s your babies who suffer.

MollyBloomYes · 21/01/2021 05:58

Yes, this is exactly it, I don't particularly want to cover for him but I don't want my kid to be devastated if he knows how little his Dad actually cares about him and his brother. It makes me so furious but as ever I'll swallow it down.

bubblebubblebubbled · 24/01/2021 08:45

I’ve got a similar problem - my son’s dad decided he no longer wanted contact about three years ago. My son also has Autism. My son constantly talks about his dad as he clings onto some sort of memory of him. He ranges from saying my dad is dead to making up fantasy stories about what they used to do together.
I really don’t know how to deal with it as I’m so angry with my ex for not even explaining to my son why he doesn’t want contact with him. I’ve tried contacting his dad and even his parents and family ( who all have no contact too) just to resolve this for my son.

MollyBloomYes · 26/01/2021 01:00

Well update of sorts. He did eventually get in touch and demand a weekend to have the kids (have also realised I had a total name change fail on this thread so might as well keep the old one). When I pointed out he had said he was unsafe to have them he then told me he'd be going to a solicitor and I should wait to be served as soon as he could afford it.

The maddening thing is that I have always wanted him to take more of an interest and be more consistent. This isn't some whim of mine, he has literally told me he isn't safe, yet he seems to think I have made this up to stop him seeing the kids! So he can bring on the litigation, all it will mean is that the kids safety with him will be assessed and assured and that he will be locked into a contact schedule that has been agreed and legalised-all fine by me and certainly not the threat he thinks it is.

But good grief it really didn't need to be as complicated and vitriolic as he is trying to make it. He has refused all supervised visits and FaceTime contact so for the time being I am continuing to go with the 'Daddy is very busy with work but is trying his best to finish working so hard one day' type line which the kids seem perfectly happy with. They're not asking very much about him much now anyway. He better not screw that up by flaking out again if/when contact starts up once more.

It's embarrassing to think I once fell for his charms. I'd tell him to run a mile if I met him now.

ineedaholidaynow · 26/01/2021 01:11

As an aside does he pay you any maintenance?

Amdone123 · 26/01/2021 02:23

You sound like a great mum, and your children are lucky to have you.
I have no experience of this kind of thing, but I hope it all works out in the end. Some things are sent to try us !!!

MollyBloomYes · 27/01/2021 21:24

@ineedaholidaynow he does pay maintenance yes. I have to remind him every month but it does eventually get paid. Per our consent order it was supposed to increase with any pay rise he got but that hasn't happened. Difficult to prove he's got a pay rise without gaining access to his pay slips though so didn't really seem worth the expense of pursuing it! What he pays is fine, not as wildly generous as he thinks it is but with my wage I make it work and I'd rather work on being independent financially than chasing more money anyway.

@Amdone123 thank you. That's a lovely thing to say Smile

New posts on this thread. Refresh page
Please create an account

To comment on this thread you need to create a Mumsnet account.

This thread is closed and is no longer accepting replies. Click here to start a new thread.