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Pausing Direct Contact...

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WittyWhitty · 29/06/2020 23:02

Hi all!

Will try and be brief, but apologies if this ends up being a novella. Just need some other parent's views on this please...

DD is 9 and is registered as living with me. Pre-lockdown ex would see her one weekday after school and every other weekend. This was arranged between us - no contact order is in place...also there has never been any child maintenance payments, if that's at all relevant...

At the beginning of lockdown, we agreed to isolate for two weeks. Just as a precaution...and then we could resume with our timetable, provided we were all socially distancing as per the government guidance...

DD and ex facetimed daily. We also visited his garden for socially distanced visits, but at no point after those initial two weeks did ex ask for regular contact to resume, so this became our new normal for several weeks. He didn't express being unhappy about this and, if anything, seemed to encourage the arrangement...

After several weeks of this, he asked for normal contact to resume, as he wished to take DD to a family event. I said sure, so long as he was continuing to follow the government guidance. He agreed.

He then proceeded to drive DD for hours to and from the event with members of two different houses also in the car and then held a non-socially distanced after party in his home, with around ten people who did not live with him...DD was incredibly upset upon returning, as she had tried to socially distance and was met by disapproval from ex and multiple family members hugging and insisting on close physical contact, despite her politely declining. She was uncomfortable, as she knew she shouldn't be doing this...he also tried to insist on DD sitting to eat a meal non-socially distanced with a friend a different day, inside. All this took place when it was actually against the law to do so...

It's come to light that he hasn't been following social distancing guidance this entire time...at all and has been visiting multiple friends and family and hosted a full on house party at his recently...

I have explained how uncomfortable this has made me, in regards to DD's increased risk of infection. His response is that DD has more chance of being hit by lightning than becoming seriously ill with Covid and it is not my business what he chooses to do with his life.

I agree with both of those points, generally speaking. However, just because DD is statisically not at a high risk, surely his actions to repeatedly mix with others, as if this pandemic is not happening is increasing her chances of becoming ill?

Ex has said he would not be worried if DD caught the virus and is still refusing to follow government guidance, but is also insisting that normal contact resume.

Consequently, I have paused direct contact for now as I believe it puts DD at an increased risk of becoming infected, when that simply doesn't need to happen. I have messaged ex to say as much and have offered for facetime calls to continue, until such a time as he socially distances properly or the guidance changes to say what he is doing is appropriate and safe for us to do...

DD is fine with this arrangement. She has expressed that she doesn't wish to go to ex's, as she is not comfortable with him pressuring her to interact as normal with those she doesn't live with...she has tried repeatedly to ring him, but he doesn't pick up her calls...

Fast forward a week or so and ex has been messaging me non-stop emotional abuse. He has tried to claim he has been socially distancing (despite admitting he hasn't been and it being posted all over social media) that DD is mistaken in her experience, that I am stubborn/mentally unstable/a narcissist/a child abductor/alike to the Stasi...I could go on...

I have calmly and repeatedly reiterated that I believe allowing DD to see him right now would be putting her in harm's way, but should he start to take the social distancing guidance seriously, the direct contact could resume, but ultimately it is his choice whether he changes his behaviour for DD's wellbeing or not. In the meantime, I am offering indirect contact through facetime.

I don't think I am being unreasonable to ask him to socially distance properly, in order for DD to move safely between us and to minimise her risk of infection. I'm not asking him to walk over hot coals...

In his mind, I am completely in the wrong and worse than Hitler...

I suppose my question is, am I?

What would you do in my position?

Thank you for reading, if you made it this far. I don't really have anyone in the real world to talk this through with.

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GroovyGrove · 30/06/2020 00:24

Your having to much contact with him. This is a conversation it's an argument. That needs to stop.
Also your dd should be aware of what is going but it sounds like she is too involved.

Your ex enjoyed the arrangement at the start because it suited him, he had contact but not to much as there wasn't much for him to do, but now people are more relaxed he can take dd out.

Pause contact and wait.
Continue FaceTime / I would every other day but if dd is happy with everyday fine.
You have already explained your concerns their isn't anymore to say so I would stop that until things calm between you both.

Dealing with ex is like talking to a wall, both sides think they are right.
You need to plan how you want contact to move forward, so like 3 weeks time contact resume to EOW if the risk is low etc.

I know it's difficult because your trying to explain your concerns to him but he's your ex for a reason and sometimes it just doesn't go anywhere besides an argument.

In regards to Child support, that has no link to contact. If he's not paying you need to make sure you go to CMS. Family court do not link them both.

Mintjulia · 30/06/2020 04:26

Op, you are absolutely right to pause contact, if only because that is what your dd wants and because she was forced into a situation where she was uncomfortable.

Your dd may not get seriously ill with cv19 but she could pass it onto you. Your ex is ignorant and selfish.

groovygrove Is right. Stop the conversation. Your ex is wrong but he won’t acknowledge that so conversation is pointless. Ignore any future messages until either lockdown is over or he talks to your dd via FaceTime and agrees to meet while complying with the rules.

I’d put in a CMs claim. One day, your daughter will need that money.

WittyWhitty · 30/06/2020 09:34

Thank you both for replying so quickly. I feel a little reassured that I am doing the right thing given the circumstances.

I agree that continuing to engage with ex's messages now would not be helpful. He knows the reasons why I have paused direct contact and what needs to change in order for it to resume and, as always, the offer of facetime calls is there. I suppose it's ultimately his choice if he chooses to answer DD's calls in as much as it's his choice to socially distance or not...

For now, I've muted his messages, but will check in every few days to see if he is willing to socially distance properly and take it from there.

Thank you again for taking the time to reply. Smile

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timetest · 30/06/2020 09:46

He’s putting his daughter at risk with his foolish and selfish behaviour. I would keep her away in your situation.
Agree with pp about a cms claim. Your daughter could need it one day even if you can manage without.

WittyWhitty · 30/06/2020 16:03

Thank you @timetest.

I will look into cms, but perhaps when this situation is over. I don't want to provoke him to show up on the doorstep in anger.

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