Handovers

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NRP is requesting I provide all clothes during handovers which I assume is correct since I receive maintenance. My issue is they're complaining that I only put in sleepsuits for if baby is sick, baby is 5 Months old. Totally normal as far as I'm concerned, they can't dictate what clothes i provide can they?

You can include any clothes you want, although if NRP is a bit of a dick they may use it as a stick to beat you with. When I provided clothes he'd always say I hadn't sent enough and would throw a mega strop if there was an unexpected hot/cold day and the clothes I'd sent didn't match the weather. He also wouldn't return clothes a lot of the time so I was short at my house. In the end I told him he had to provide clothes for when she's with him and he's done that but he doesn't pay maintenance. Not sure if that really makes a difference however

Is your maintenance reduced because you don’t alway have your child?

His responsibility to provide clothes for his time.

No, you don't have to provide clothes because you receive maintenance.

I'm the Resident parent - NRP has clothes & everything child needs at their house provided by him

I receive full maintenance as there's no overnight stays at the moment.

They requested to pay less maintenance and provide their own clothes, i declined this offer. The cms website is a mess so I'm struggling to find the guidelines for all this.

He has to pay the full maintenance and provide clothes for when they have the child.
Maintenance is only reduced when overnight stays happen.

I also use CMS. He is trying it on

for Gods, grow up - would it kill you to supply the clothes the baby needs until his/her dad is able to have longer?

So no overnights you literally mean putting a spare set of clothes in a bag? Just do it, surely?

She is packing clothes and has no issue with that. He's complaining about what clothes she's packing^^ for a 5 month old!

And she needs mumsnet for validation?

No, just advice and support as a new mum dealing with a clueless and picky ex.

3xcookedchips why so irate?

Ignore him. I only dressed my kids in baby grows until they are in 6 to 9 month old clothes, which is probably really about 5 months. As long as it’s appropriate for the weather he has no grounds to complain.

@3xcookedchips you seem like a delight don't ya. No issue providing anything that my baby needs, my issue is the father is complaining what I'm putting in, currently earning 5 x what I do and is saying he'll need to pay less maintenance if he's to provide clothes. As for growing up, take your own advice there please :-) clearly having a bad day.

Thanks to everyone else who's posted. I'll continue to put in sleepsuits, coats, hats etc and he can provide his own clothes it unhappy

To be honest it's a bit of a slippery slope. If and when you move to over nights make sure he understands he's responsible for all the kit at his house including clothes, shoes, toys etc. Maintenance is there to help you house and care for the child. There is an expectation that the non resident parent meets their own costs

It shouldn't be a slippery slope. Be absolutely fair, but also be clear from here on in that you won't pander to him. You've got years of co-parenting ahead, OP. Start as you mean to go on with this kind of thing.

@Chucklecheeks1

Becuase its such a trivial thing to get worked up about and then bring to mumsnet. Don't sweat the small stuff!

There are going to bigger fish to fry in years to come.

You are a delight. Trivial to you @3xcookedchips it could be the last of a long list of nit picking and controlling comments. We dont know so before you jump in calling someone for sweating the small stuff ask some questions.

My exh was and is controlling, one of the ways he did it was through giving a list each week of what i was exoected to pack and it it wasnt correct i was told it ruined the childrens weekends. I had to pack for every eventuality.

What is trivial in isolation is sometimes so much more as part of a pattern.

3xcookedchips

My dd spent the vast majority of her time in babygrows at 5 months. I never saw them as sleep suits or pyjamas. So, if my ex had asked for "clothes" that's what he would have received.

But, I would probably resolve the issue by giving ex one 'non sleep suit' set of clothes to be kept at his house. I would hand over baby in sleep suit and expect him/her to be returned in a sleep suit so ex could wash the set of "proper clothes" for next vist.

A 5 month old baby spends the vast majority of its time on its back. Babygrows are the most comfortable clothes for them. They don’t need trousers/skirts/tights with waistbands to irritate them.

OP send what you would have in a Changing bag if you were taking baby out for a Few hours. It’s up to him to provide everything while baby is at his house. If he doesn’t like babygrows he is welcome to change the baby into something he has bought.

would it kill you to supply the clothes the baby needs until his/her dad is able to have longer?

She is.

would it kill you to supply the clothes the baby needs until his/her dad is able to have longer?

Why are you being such a dick? OP does provide a change of clothes! Should she ask him to pick an outfit each time or something- ffs
The baby is not with Dad overnight so presumably 12 hours or less. He doesn't need a whole wardrobe of choices. A change (or two) is fine.
A non-mobile baby is fine in a sleep suit. "Older clothes" can wait until they are mobile.

He should be providing his own stuff and paying maintenance. Baby clothes are hardly Waller busters if you're a high earner.

would it kill you to supply the clothes the baby needs she is doing exactly that. Providing the clothes that the baby needs

She does not have to provide clothes dictated by her ex