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Exh leaving dcs alone

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HalfMyLife · 21/07/2019 01:38

DD7 and DS12. Ex has had monthly contact for a couple of hours after school (his choice) until around May this year when he decided he wanted weekly overnight contact.
No set pattern, usually 2 weeks notice maximum.
DD7 is going through a particularly rough patch.. High anxiety, school refusal.. Being assessed for Asd.. Needs structure, routine.. Has frequent, violent meltdowns.
2nd overnight in May, she had a meltdown. Exh dealt with it badly, his neighbours called the police and they carried out a welfare check the following day, when they were back home with me.
No more overnights for DD... Her choice but no argument from exh.
DS12 stayed overnight about 4 weeks ago. Exh left him and his partners DD13 alone in the house from 6.30pm while he went to the pub. They (the 12 and 13 Yr old) left the house at 10pm and wandered the streets until 11.30pm when exh and partner returned from the pub. I was less than happy about this, but I let it go.
In preparation for 4 nights away with exh in August, both DCs went for an overnight tonight.
DD was extremely anxious about it and was refusing to go at all. Ex agreed that I could tell her she didn't have to sleep over and could come home if she wanted to.
At 7.30pm (just as I was leaving for a rare night out... But that's by-the-by) I got a phonecall from DS who told me DD was upset and wanted to come home.. I could hear her screaming and clearly distressed in the background.
I asked DS to put his dad on the phone.. He replied that his dad wasn't there, he'd left them alone to go and collect his partner and walk her home from work.
I spoke to DD who was very distressed, then asked DS to walk her home (a 2 minute walk).
DS rang again 2 mins later to say he couldn't get out of the house as the doors were locked and there was no key. DD at this point was hysterical. I spoke to her again and managed to calm her slightly. I then rang Exh and asked how far away he was (10 mins). I asked him to walk DD home as soon as he got back and told him that DS shouldn't be put in the situation of having to handle a meltdown on his own, and pointed out the risk to them of being locked in the house with no means of escape.
20 mins later I texted DS to ask if his dad s back.. He replied that yes he was, but he s not letting DD come home, and she was still screaming.
I rang exh and he said that she was staying, even though I could hear her screaming and begging to come home.
I reminded him that we had promised her she could come home if she wanted to and not letting her was breaking her trust. He said "she's not coming home"
I told him to bring her home straight away or I would be phoning the police for assistance. He said no, and hung up but rang back 2 mins later to say he was bringing her home and she's not going on holiday with them.
I'm not sure what my question is here, but I guess I'm just looking for advice on where to go from here.
I have tried and tried to encourage their relationship with exh while he has done everything possible to jeapordise it. He dips in and out when he feels like it, and always on his terms and to fit in with his life.
And now I feel like he is not even keeping the DC safe when he is responsible for them.
I fully expect DD to say she never wants to see him again, and I'm quite honestly not prepared to convince her to anymore. It takes enough patience and effort just to get through the normal everyday stuff with her, and juggling childcare etc over the hols (I work full time) that I just don't have the energy to deal with his crap as well.
Any advice welcome...

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HennyPennyHorror · 21/07/2019 01:56

Exh dealt with it badly, his neighbours called the police and they carried out a welfare check

That should have been enough for you to completely stop his access OP.

It may be that you've lost a clear picture here but this is not ok and not acceptable at all.

Don't let them go back there again. Not ONCE!

Cut him off. Tell your DD and DS that they will never need to go back there again and stick to it.

Holidays be damned. She isn't safe with her Dad and neither's your son.

What if there'd been a fire and they couldn't get out?? He sounds abusive and terrible.

Your DD will probably improve once she knows she's not going there any longer.

Weenurse · 21/07/2019 02:03

Friends DD used to have absolute melt downs with police called when DD was about 8.
Dad had taken DD on Summer holidays and had not returned her on agreed date as he wanted DD to spend time with his friends.
Friend went to court and Judge berated Dad for not returning DD as planned ( and ordered by court).
Friends DD then calmed down as she knew Dad would comply with court orders, it was the uncertainty that caused the melt downs.
Good luck

Starlight456 · 21/07/2019 08:20

I would stop contact on this basis alone . My son has Adhd and there is no way in this planet I cot ask a teenager to babysit incase of a meltdown , so asking a 12 year old is completely unreasonable.

Children locked I. The house . What if there was a fire. G/friend should of walked home alone she is the grown up here

No I would not bother .

SlightlyMisplacedSingleDad · 22/07/2019 10:51

Do you think your ex could be persuaded to take up supervised contact? I'm just trying to think of ways to maintain a relationship between the kids and their father, while safeguarding their welfare. That might be one way of going about it. The useless arse clearly can't be trusted on his own!

HalfMyLife · 23/07/2019 08:05

@SlightlyMisplacedSingleDad no, I really don't think I'd be able to convince him to do that.. In his opinion he's done nothing wrong.
Thanks for the replies... Helps to know I'm not over reacting.
For now DD won't be staying overnight, and any other visits will be on her terms NOT his,and if she doesn't want to go I won't be forcing her.

With DS, I'll be checking every overnight that ex will be there ALL night, and while it's not ideal he is a sensible lad and I trust him to let me know if he's put in an unsafe situation.
Thanks again for all replies
Xx

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Frankola · 28/08/2019 20:19

Stop access. He locked them in and there could have been a fire or any other manner of emergency. Its also not the first time hes left them.

R2MA · 14/09/2019 13:43

Just wanted to say I feel your pain. 10m after my Ex left and I still have no weekend stability. Our interim CO required ex to facilitate the return of the children if they express a desire to come him but he blows up at them whenever they do. I’ve asked him to step back as have Cafcass in the hope greater stability will settle things but he feels they should be told “deal with it” Both mine have developed anxiety disorders. Back in court for a final hearing v soon. As a parent I just don’t get it, I turn myself inside out trying to comply with my interim order when all I want to do is tell him to get stuffed.

R2MA · 14/09/2019 13:46

I should say my ex was emotionally abusive to me and I feel like this is a continuation as he knows the children’s distress hurts me. I also think it’s the start of abusing them as they live in fear of his volatility

Embracelife · 14/09/2019 13:56

Does DS actually want to stay overnight?
Why was he out on the streets at 10 pm? His idea?
If no court order then stop the overnight
Ds is being made to be too much involved as the go between...
As dd is 7 she doesn't decide or choose...you do based on her best interests
Maybe talk to someone...if camhs involved ask to speak to someone just you .

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