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Can I be made sign a contact order ?

6 replies

Bubblegum80 · 08/12/2018 22:44

Hi guys
I’m new to mums net šŸ‘šŸ»
Any advice I would appreciate.
My girls (twins) 7 years old, there father an I split some years back.
He spent the first 5 years of there life in prison.
When he returned home, in the interests of the girls mental health an the fact they showed a want to see there dad. I allowed contact, and watched closely, to assure girls welfare was met, which it was till a few months back.
So I have been more than accommodating and always allowed contact on amicable terms between us, and been flexible with him.
Things seemed ok, but
3 years later, we have had to take the court route because I stopped contact,
when his new partner hurt my child.
The child came home very distressed claiming she felt picked on and could not turn to her dad for comfort.
I addressed the issue, an he refused to believe the child.
This led to no contact for 6 months.
In that time, he didn’t ring or try an contact me or make any adequate effort to address the issue properly.
We went to court a few weeks back
and had to have mediation.
We’re i got the point across, that if i raise a welfare issue, he has to address it!
Not start a shit throwing match, and dance around the issue an blame the child on telling lies.
Even if the child did lie, it’s for a attention in my view, which he’s clearly not giving, (the said child did not lie ) mediation paved the way for contact to resume on new terms.
Another issue, has always been money.
He refuses to tell me his financial stand point an I recently found out he’s on benefits he does pay voluntary maintenance, which was agreed between us.
This has not came easy either I had to push to get it and in the summer he has the girls 3 nites a week. So I agreed to drop maintenance during that time, seeing as he asked, stating he had to buy adequate food and clothing. I agreed, feeling that was fair on him.
It’s never been about money for me, it’s always been about the girls having a relationship with there dad and a happy fulfilled child hood. As no parent wants to raise a child with issues who may turn to drugs or drink later in life. That’s my belief anyway.
But I feel like a door mat the more I give the more he wants he’s narcissistic to a really demeaning degree, I literally can not talk to him, he turns everything into a point scoring session were he always feels he ya stonhavr the upper hand,
he even allows his new wife write his replies to me. Which are written in a very demoralising manner to say the least.
In the latest court order, he wants the agreed contact , but has put in the court order, that I am ā€œnever allowed to ask him for any extra help with money towards the children’s school uniforms, or extra curricular or other wise.
I mean he pays the bare minimum let me tell you, it’s more than the csa would give me by a couple of pound , absolutely nothing exciting.
He has no other children to pay for an his wife owns the home he now lives in. My question is , given he’s home some years from prison (3)

Still not found a job ....
Missed 5 years of there life were I carried the financial burden for him...
Can he actually put that in a court order?
I mean what if he gets a job ? Or his financial circumstances change?
His solicitor sent it in writing to my solicitor, making me think, this must be legal??? I mean he’s actually saying this weekly amount is all I’m contributing to my kids upbring f;ā€ā‚¬ you, what if the girls do need extra help? Or the girls major miles stone in life were I need help.
I feel like a door mat in the interests of the girls, he seems more focused on money than anything else, the order clearly states that his solicitor took instructions from him to add to the order that ā€œI must never ask him for any extra money for school uniforms or extra curricular helpā€ or anything else !!! The amount he gives is the amount he is prepaired to pay for the forceable !! I feel absolutely disgusted and I’m really struggling now to stomach him, as I have always been fair with him and included him but now I feel so disgusted and down throdden by his attitude I don’t know what to do.
I don’t feel I can sign that order, I feel that is the treatment I do not deserve, given I have never made life hard for him, with his kids an always been accommodating... maybe I’m just venting I Don’t know but has anyone been in a similar situation like this ? What happens if I don’t sign the contact order ? Can I just add I’m not a jealous ex either , I have now married myself and have 2 more beautiful children and Again I am new so please be gentle...
Thankyou guys
Xx

OP posts:
HJWT · 08/12/2018 23:03

I would get your solicitor to write back saying ā€˜politely go fu** yourself - best regards’

Sounds like a twat and no I would never sign that! Like you say what if he gets a job! What if he wins 7 mil on tonight’s lottery ?

Halloweenallyearround · 08/12/2018 23:36

Contact order and money are two
Separate things and I was be extremely shocked if a judge allowed that in the order. It is illegal as cms is calculated on income. And how can anybody in force you not requesting help with uniform.
What's he going to do
Call the police, go back to court? Hell just say no.
Does he have legal support? I can't imagine anyone added that
Claus

Bubblegum80 · 09/12/2018 00:43

Hiya
Thanks for the replies
Yeah I feel like that alright lol truth be told lol total twat like, always has been ya know!! But I never wanted girls to throw it in my face that I came between them and there dad trying to put them 1st. But he just keeps on digging the bottom of the barrel.
I to am so shocked as to why his solicitor would say the court order is to include the ā€œagreementā€ I mean you are so right, money an contact are totally different issues? He even tried saying to the mediator so she would write it in her report an she cut him a look An said absolutely not. And she looked appalled an I just shrugged my shoulders and said see what I’m up against !! She nodded as in to say yeah a piece of work!! Got the letter today had to read it 5 times thinking that can’t be correct he can’t put that in a court order lol but willl call my solicitor Monday. I’m just exhausted dealing with him everything from day one has been on his terms he dictates the amount of money the contact he’s a total pig I’m literally struggling to go on but have no choice because the girls wish to see him so I have to put my feelings (of utter disgust ) aside an carry on as if all is well. I am calling my solicitor and saying hell no inaint signing that !!! See what happens then I would imagine we will have to go back to court and he will prob stop maintenance completely as it only restarted this week after no money for 6 months while I stopped contact. It’s just shit I could be doing with out home life is good apart from this and the husband is so supportive he to is appalled. I dunno see what happens I guess hopefully judge will not allow it an put him straight As in ā€œget a jobā€ and be a real man an take care of your kids. He wants the parental rights but not the responsibility like An sure if I went csa I would jack !!! Unreal how the laws work in this country like.... rant over šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚
Xx

OP posts:
HJWT · 09/12/2018 11:27

@Bubblegum80 I would personally just write back and say you are discussing contact not money and if he want that putting in writing he can ask a judge to do it other it will not be happening

ghostsandghoulies · 09/12/2018 11:31

I would not sign that either.

Starlight456 · 10/12/2018 14:33

I would take the financial issues out of it go to the cms . Even if it is a couple of pounds more it’s not worth it. That way if he does get a job it will be increased through cms.

My ex has managed not to work for 10 years though

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