Should non-resident parents pay more tax?

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My ex informed yesterday he doesn't have to loan me money for the things DD2 needs to buy for a school trip because the government pay to 'cloth' her and it's not his fault I have spent her 'cloth' money on drink (I drink one bottle of Lambrini a week. I'm not sure how much cloth £3.69 a week would get me)

I assume he means child tax credits, which afaik all low income families are entitled to. Single parents do not get a special 'cloth' allowance for their children.

Also, it's not the government paying, it is the taxpayer. Why should parents who pay for their children also have to pay to cloth mine because their father refuses to?

So, should non-resident parents who refuse to cloth their children or pay the correct amount of maintenance be forced to pay extra tax/ It could be on a sliding scale. If you pay the full amount of maintenance but refuse to give cloth to your children, you only pay a small amount of cloth tax, if you pay less maintenance than you should and also refuse to cloth your children, you pay more cloth tax.

Non-resident parents could submit receipts as proof of providing a sufficient amount of cloth to their children.

1. Clothes not cloth,

1. As shitty as it is maintenance is supposed to cover everything. Decent parents should always pay more though if they can afford it.

1. Have you gone through CSA to ensure the correct amount of maintenance?

1. If the NRP works(legally and above board) then they already pay taxes , hopefully they also pay maintenance.

1. It would be way too much faff and expense to actually sort it out. Much better to raise CSA to a decent level and ensure that NRP actually pay what they have to.

Is it supposed to cover everything? I thought it was reduced per night the child spent with non-resident parent because the NRP is supposed to provide for them on those nights, which I assume would include clothing them/having clothes at their house?

Mine doesn't clothe her at all. She takes clothes I buy her to his house and they are never seen again. I now keep her old, ill fitting clothes for her to wear when she goes to his. He also doesn't provide food for her, she takes a packed lunch but I have no way of proving this to CSA.

He claims to pay what the CSA would make him pay but he also has several rental properties he transferred/sold at a ridiculous price to his sister when we split, so I couldn't get them. I'm not sure how he did it, I just know he did because he made a point of gloating about it for weeks.

I suppose it would be too much expense and unfair to the NRP who actually pay what they should but something needs to be done to force these men to provide for the children they created.

Did you actually go through CSA for maintenance or not? Not completely clear..

If not use their calculator and go through them.

Sounds like he's a dick. People that are dicks will sadly always find a loophole to not pay/take responsibility for their kids.

You definitely shouldn't have to provide clothes and food for his house. No wonder you are angry.

No idea what this post is about....

Your EP should be paying the dictated CSA amount.

He should have clothes for the children at his and feed them (visiting his isn’t a hotel that they take clothes to).

Clothing going backward is always contentious. My OH has everything the kids need at ours. They go back home to mums in clothes he’s bought (they are the children’s things) and we never see them again. Last winter he was forced to buy 3 coats each as they woukd turn up in freezing temperatures without coats. But you know what.... we let it go. Can’t be bothered arguing over something so petty. And now we just buy cheap Primark coats - if we don’t see it again, we’re not paying a fortune.

We have a private arrangement. We sat together and went through the child maintenance calculator but I had no proof what he told me/the calculator he earns is the actual amount he earns. I doubt it is because he panics whenever I mention going through CSA/CMO.

I'm reluctant to actually go through them because having that to hold over his head does help a lot when it comes to meeting unexpected costs and getting him to pay towards extras like school uniforms and trips.

Normally we manage it's just this school trip - which in fairness he did pay most of after I told him I simply could not afford it and would have to go through CSA- and the extra clothes she needs to take which has thrown us off. I ate through my savings in days when we moved house a few months ago.

But you know what.... we let it go. Can’t be bothered arguing over something so petty

It's only petty if you can afford to replace it. I can't. That's why she has no clothes to take to the school trip. Anything nice I buy ends up at his house and stays there. She tells me she wears it while she is with him and he won't let her take them back home with her because the she will 'have nothing nice to wear' when he takes her to visit his family. He sends her back to me in her PJs and insists her clothes are in the wash if I question it and tells me he will bring them at a later date. He then denies ever having them and tells me it's not his fault I spend the money the government give me to clothe her on drink for myself.

She's just had a growth spurt. Out of the three outfits I bought her I have one sweater left. I don't think it's petty to object to that.

How old is your daughter? She’ll get to an age where she’ll learn she has to bring it back if she wants to wear it.

Personally I don’t think clothes ‘belong’ to ‘mum’ or ‘dad’. They are the children’s clothes.

We had the same thing with my SC’s mum. Last December she sent the kids in shorts and flip flops. Her ploy is that we’ll buy the kids stuff. My OH pays £700 maintenance a month (which apparently is a ‘pathetic’ amount). We have got tough at times, like this example and the time all the trainers my OH had bought his son (3 pairs in one month). She sent him in studded football boots. He had to walk to the shops in them to buy suitable footwear. That particular time he deducted £25 off the maintenance asking her to make sure the children are dressed appropriately. So most times he does let it go, but every now and again he gets tough.

Go through the CMS is he isn’t paying the right amount. It’s not a tool as you say ‘hold over his head’. He should be paying the right amount.