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Aprilviolet · 06/04/2018 20:03

Wondering if anyone can help! :(

So on December the 07th 2017, my ex partner (daughters dad) collected my daughter for his weekend! And never brought her back.!
No messages! No contact with my daughter.
We live over an hour away from each other! I didn't go to his home - due to him attacking me 6weeks before he took her! (I was 33weeks pregnant - I did report to police!
But anyways! I applied for residential order! & prohibition steps order for my daughter! This took 6weeks to go to court as an emergency due to Christmas holidays! On the 31st of jan I had court! To when my ex! Come out with - my daughter said to him I hit her! & she doesn't want to come home! :( she's 4!
He never told me about this! I found out 4days before court.! On Cafcass report! (So upset with his lies! As I know my daughter wouldn't say this, and I would never hit my child)

After these allegations they decided to do a s7 report on me!! No they couldn't do nothing else at court! I had to beg my ex to see my daughter! When he then agreed on a private contact centre - ones every 2weeks for two hours :,(

Now I have 3weeks 5days till court!
I know SS ain't getting involved! As they never have been! Not had any reports minus Cafcass refurral due to allegations - SS called and said it's on note but no further action being took!!
It looked like Cafcass are on my side!
But my solicitor has said i might not get my daughter back full time due to being 6months out of my care :,( HEART BROKEN!!!
Anyone ever been through the same?
Did you get your baby's back!!

FACTS ---

  • My daughter is 4!
  • always lived with me since birth! Went to dads every weekend!
  • I have 2other children with my current partner, my ex has no other children!
  • my other children are 2years & 8weeks
  • I'm 22 with 3kids
  • not & never been under SS
-nursery report of Lola (no conserns in the allegations!

Please someone advice :(
Many thanks!

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becki3 · 06/04/2018 20:11

I'm so sorry to hear about this! I don't have any advice, but didn't want to read and run. Offering you a hand hold here, I really hope that the truth wins out for you.

Aprilviolet · 06/04/2018 20:45

Thank you, just very upset and unsure on what the future holds :( I really hope it goes my way! He's never wanted our daughter! Never paid! Now in £5,600 worth of CM outstanding!
He's now only wanted her out of spite As I finally stood up to him & reported him to police and he lost his job! Door bouncing due to report :,( xxxx

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Starlight2345 · 06/04/2018 23:16

I haven’t any experience but also hope she is back home soon x

justdontknow45 · 07/04/2018 15:35

Section 7 is a general report on circumstances not on just one parent. Cafcass will ask you/ ex about your dispute.
It's a shitty way ex can manipulate the system. If social care aren't investigating then surely that's good news as they don't think any weight behind it. When cafcass see you mention the positives of being with you, by all means say you think he reacted like this because in coincides with me reporting to the police and ultimately he lost his job, concentrate on the fact your having another baby, and no flags ever been brought up as there is no evidence to say you have ever hurt your daughter. Nursery reports saying DD is happy with you. Don't make it into a vendetta against him no matter how angry you are.

Also mention you had no regular maintainable from him before.

How was contact before ? How long have you been split up ? What caused him to attack you ?

Sorry I've been through 3 section 7s so will try help you through it but need a bit a background to help you Thanks

Aprilviolet · 07/04/2018 16:24

Hi, thank you! I have explained this to them! But yes SS ain't getting involved! We have been split up since our daughter was 2months! Contact was always regular! He had her every week end! & Christmas Day! And Father's Day! We also split the school holidays 50/50!
Thank you for your help! Any advice would be great! We have had all checks done! Cafcass have been over! Just waiting on final report now! But as far as I can make out thy have spoken to Lola and she's not said I hit her or harm her! As she said she's going to contact Lola's new nursery. (He dad put her in a new one near him) and see if she's said anything! As she would tell SOMEONE, not just her dad! So I think the Cafcass lady saying this to me, means Lola (my daughter) Has not said anything! And I'm just going on pure facts! Nothing more :) but I have been very good with it all! Want my ex to have every other weekend with our daughter! As she's starts school in September! My ex has asked for me to see my daughter every other weekend for 2hrs in a contact centre!!! :/ LOL, where my kids can't see their sister! Nor my family! As it's private! I'm also paying £45 an hour to see her atm! And can't continue to pay this! This court has wiped my bank account out and I'm really struggling find £45 a fortnight to see her now xxxx

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becki3 · 07/04/2018 16:36

It sounds pretty positive overall, from what you're saying! Try not to stress too much about money, as there ought to be £5,000+ of maintenance coming your way.
The report and the court will only focus on the facts and that's how he'll be found out! He has no job, hasn't paid mountains of child maintenance, has lied about a child being abused and is keeping a girl from her mother. Doesn't sound very promising for him...

Good luck!

Aprilviolet · 07/04/2018 16:43

Thank you hun' I'm not bother with the money now! But we did fight as he turned up an hour early to get her and she was in the bath! He come into the house and grab our daughter out the bath naked! And tried to take her into his car! I grab my daughter got her into my home where he kicked my door open saying he wanted her! I the tried to push him out of my home! And it's caused a massive fight infront of all the kids! I then shouted he could have her! Bug to leave for 5mins while I got the kids settled! (They was crying) he left and I locked the door! Called the police! And he left! But he ended up getting his job back' as it was my word via his word! But it's on record as a domestic! He's also living with is mum' in a 3bedroom house! She has 3kids living there! Her - her partner & now my ex & daughter! Xxxxx

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Aprilviolet · 07/04/2018 16:45

Thanks for much for your reply's tho! Making me feel a lot better! First court & report was I believe in my side! But due to allegations they left Lola in his care! As I stated he was no harm to my daughter, minus the attack he done! :( it's been so hard! Seen my daughter 2 tines kn 5months now! And I'm so scared they will say she's settle there now! :( I'm so heart broken to be honest xxx

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becki3 · 07/04/2018 16:57

It's so sad, because I can imagine that your daughter misses you terribly. You're her mum and she'll not forget that! I suppose that they have no evidence for what he's saying that you did to her, so they can't and won't be taking her away from you. I guess that it might help just to focus on that future day of when you get her back properly.

Shame about him getting his job back, but glad that it was all reported! He sounds like a real piece of work.

justdontknow45 · 07/04/2018 17:18

Keep us updated op.

If 2 other children in your care and social not been that says it all. They don't have time for vendettas and it's that with bells on.

CuppaTeaAndAJammieDodger · 07/04/2018 17:23

Sickens me when parents use their kids as some sort of punishment device. Really sorry this is happening to you.

Aprilviolet · 07/04/2018 18:10

Thank you everyone!
I'll keep uiu all updated, including last Cafcass report for advice! But he really is using her as a Weapon! The poor woman at the contact centre gets upset having to remove Lola from my care! As my daughter cry's and says she want to come home! Very upsetting for us all! He really is hun! He's got progressively worse! He's never even touched me before! Ovs before the attack! But I have been very soft around him! And he does intimidate me! I'm hoping they see the real side of him' but nope no conserns for my other two children! Who are now! 2years and other daughter 8weeks old! I even have a message of ex's mum saying it's a shame you and (vinny) baby's dad play games and it's come to this! Even stating he's playing a game with me! But dragged out poor daughter into it all :( I worry for her so much! I know she must be asking for me and her younger sister! My youngest daughter has also been very much a victim in all of this! She's always saying Lola has gone mummy! She's just gone! Where is Lola! Is it Lola's birthday party now :( so she can see her! Bring on 3weeks 5days! I pray the Cafcass & judge see the real him' a monster! Xxxxx

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Aprilviolet · 12/04/2018 11:11

Hey everyone!
Quick update! Cafcass attending my contact this week at contact centre! Do you know will happen? Will she ask me & Lola things? Or will it just be her watching how my little one is with me? Many thank! Courts in 3weeks thankfully! Not long left of this nightmare! Xxxxx

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Starlight2345 · 12/04/2018 15:06

Fingers crossed for you . I imagine they will want to. See how you are with her.

Aprilviolet · 12/04/2018 18:28

That's great, thank you! So they will just be watching? But thank you! Praying it just goes back to normal! And the truth is found xxxx

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