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CSA and Parental Responsibility

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shazama · 23/05/2014 10:51

Quick question:

If I go through CSA, does that give him Parental Responsibility.

He does not currently have it - not on birth certificate etc

Thanks, Shaz

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Lioninthesun · 23/05/2014 11:10

No, he is legally obliged to pay for his child. It is not at all related to contact either. Completely separate so don't worry about having a pay per view situation where he pays only if he can see her or doesn't have to pay if he doesn't etc.

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shazama · 23/05/2014 11:29

Does it put him in a better position to demand contact if I contact CSA?

He's going to dispute paternity anyway.

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lostdad · 23/05/2014 11:48

If you go to the CSA and he denies he is the father there will be a DNA test. This is not the case if he is on the birth certificate If he gets a DNA test you'll be in a weaker position to deny him PR.

Surely it's in your DC's best interests to have a father who contributes both financially and in terms of care?

There is no link in law between contact and maintenance.

Bellezeboobian · 23/05/2014 11:57

CSA isn't taking on new cases anymore.

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shazama · 23/05/2014 12:06

He's on benefits and so all that I would get is a share of the £7 per week he pays for his son from previous marriage.

I would like DS to know how his dad is as he grows up but ExP wants to dispute that he is his and has told me to go through CSA so it's all done properly.

I am quite happy to have him involved but have been frightened recently seeing posts about ExPs with PR being able to remove children from schools etc and do not want that to ever be an option with my DS Just In Case.

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Bellezeboobian · 23/05/2014 12:10

It might not be worth it shazama

CSA aren't taking on new cases anymore, there's a new thing called CSM. You have to pay the costs involved.

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shazama · 23/05/2014 12:14

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Bellezeboobian · 23/05/2014 12:15

Sorry it's CMS

www.gov.uk/child-maintenance/overview

starlight1234 · 23/05/2014 12:16

I am not sure I would bother. I get £10 a fortnight from my Ex.

You have to think about whether there is a risk of him taking DC from school or you just want control.

He can apply for PR through courts even if you are not claiming CSA.

Does he want contact?

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shazama · 23/05/2014 12:25

He's controlling in a really subtle way. I wanted DS to know who he is and so contacted him recently. We were supposed to meet today but he's text me saying to go through CSA and not to contact him other than via a solicitor.

I thought that my son's need was more important than trying to squeeze money out of ExP as I know it would be a pittance and also wanted him to prove that he can be responsible/reliable before asking him if he wanted PR.

He seems to have an "all or nothing" view of it.

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fedupbutfine · 23/05/2014 13:06

this is not the case if he is on the birth certificate

Not true. My ex is on our son's birth certificate but the CSA demanded a DNA test when he denied paternity.

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shazama · 23/05/2014 13:16

Well guys, I think that I'm going to put this one to bed and let him deny parentage.

I wanted to give him the option to step up, but I think I'll leave him to it.

Thank you for everyone's responses.

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Lioninthesun · 23/05/2014 13:16

I think you may find that if he is denying paternity already he may have no interest in Contact. Not always the case however. You cannot force them to have contact. If he has issue with you he can use a Contact Centre to see the child where he/you will not have to meet at all. I don't think Courts see the BC as a major issue; their concern is for the child, not what decision the parents made at the child's birth.

If you put him on BC you do give him a little more authority over things like holidays - they can refuse to allow you to leave the country for example.

Lioninthesun · 23/05/2014 13:17

Having said that if he does want contact and does turn up for the signing of the BC the Courts could possibly say that was him being an eager/keen/responsible father if it was disputed at a later date.

Owllady · 23/05/2014 13:23

I think you are doing the right thing :( even though ideally he should be working to financially support all his children, but if that's unlikely and he's controlling to boot it might not be worth the hassle

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shazama · 23/05/2014 13:40

I've just text him back saying that I only contacted him to give him the opp to know his son. I'm not doing DNA testing, I have no doubt in my mind that he is his.

Said that I will not contact him again.

Now then, how do I explain to DS that although his dad gave me options, I decided not to take them...?

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MexicanSpringtime · 24/05/2014 04:22

Much nicer not to have his name on your son's birth cert but keep as much information as you can so that your son can look for him at a later date, because he will want to.

And enjoy your child and enjoy the privilege of being solely responsible for his well-being.

Jr12345 · 01/05/2020 21:04

Hi in don't have parental responabuilty or on the birth certicate am.I libile to pay CSA ?

Jr12345 · 01/05/2020 21:06

Hi am.I libile to.pay CSA if I am.not on the birth certicate and I don't have peranatl responbuilty ?

Starlightstarbright1 · 01/05/2020 22:18

If you are the father yes. Why would you not provide for your child ?

PumpkinP · 01/05/2020 22:44

Yes you still have to pay unless it turns out you’re not the father

Jr12345 · 01/05/2020 23:40

Think u I i am providing im a new dad learning new things

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