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Does this sound like hes losing interest or is it just me???

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shanelle5 · 06/08/2013 20:13

So, after honest opinions please.
EX P is the type of man who wants what he cannot have. I feared he would get bored with our DS and was initially reluctant for him to have contact due to his inconsistancies in the past but have doen my utmost to put my own personal feelings of hurt aside and encourage, support and frankly push a relationship between him and our baby who is 8 months.
At the beginning when he was only seeing him for a short time (once a fortnight, an hours contact, supervised) he was desperate to be in touch and kept on about how much he loved and adored ds, how much he missed him and was very gushy over him etc.
He has recently, the last 2-3 weeks been tailing off gradually, little by little....
The reason for this in his explanation is that he is working really hard, in order to set up a business to provide for his kids financially and set them up for life. Admirable yes, but does that make his tailing off contact ok? Confused
I email him every night when ds is in bed, telling him what he has done, eaten, any new developements, provide short video clips and/or photos as he said he missed him SO very much and these were his life line.

But over the last month he has gone from thanking me profusely on return of each email, to emailing occasionally or the next day, to now rarely responding at all. He used to txt me every morning to ask how baby slept, these have stopped completely. He was until last week phoning daily to ask after him, 4 days without contact at all last week and yesterday, I emailed him to ask when he was in the area in order o see ds as he had only managed 1 short hour last week and at this age I feel little and often is best for him to build a relationship. He did email me back for once, and I was encouraged by his promise to call me today and arrange a day/time to have contact with ds this week. Surprise surprise no call Confused
Now its obvious he is not making DS his prority at the moment, and I DO know he is setting up a buisiness that is going well and that he working all hours. So is this acceptable? I feel worried/sad/pissed off that he is losing interest in DS and has trailed off in his want/need for contact and it feels like he wanted him at first but as is typical with him, he got bored and moved on to the next rush which is his work. Am I being unreasonable and should I cut him some slack as it is just work?
If so, how long do I back off for and when do I have the right to be miffed that he is too preoccupied with work to fit in DS?

I do appreciate his ethic that hes doing it all for his kids (he has 2 others who he is not with either) but in my opinion, kids dont care about money or Dad having a great job or business to leave them, all they care about it having a parent who wants to spend time with them and loves them enough to make them a priority when it counts Sad Am I wrong, and does it wound like hes losing interest or is this a legit excuse? x

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cjel · 06/08/2013 21:33

I don't know if hes losing interest but I wouldn't make any more effort in forcing it.DS is young enough that there is time to rebuild if he changes his mind but as he has 2 others he doesn't see much I wouldn't hold out much hope. You are right business is for his benefit not their, Don't let him kid you.x

betterthanever · 06/08/2013 22:17

Good fathers do not talk about all the wonderful things they are doing/going to do, they demonstrate it. He will love the attention you give him too, it sort of backs up the importance he gives to himself and how he justifies himself and how he leads his selfish life. I would imagine the less you contact him the more he will contact you all of a sudden to try and pull you back in.

starlight1234 · 06/08/2013 22:34

I think you are doing too much... step back... He may be very distracted... but why does he need to make an effort if everything is been spoon fed to him..

shanelle5 · 06/08/2013 22:48

Thanks ladies im fairly new to this board but finding it so helpful and friendly!
I think you are right and I have absolutely been doing all the running ie spoon feeding and will step back a bit.
The reason for me doing the majority of the organising, facilitating and groundwork for all contact is through guilt really that if I didn't he would probably not bother and id have to explain to ds later in life why he had a poor if any, relationship with his father. I felt i needed to be able to look him in the eye and hand on heart say id done everything i could for him to know his Dad and if that hadn't worked out it wouldn't be through anything id done - or not done. But its been making a bit of a doormat of me to be honest!

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cjel · 06/08/2013 23:02

I think you can tell your ds that you did everything you could but daddy was very busy. Don't be a doormat be a brilliant lone mumSmile

betterthanever · 06/08/2013 23:37

Op you are not responsible for what he chooses to do or in this case not do..you don't really know and will never know what your exp is thinking so you have no way of expalining it to DS, you can only answer that only he knows why he choses to do or not do things.

I used to be like that, over responsible it is called - all it got me was abuse and exhaustion. I didn't understand boundaries then, I do now, although I am far from perfect at sticking to them - I know what is in my boundary and what I am responsbile for and can change and what is in someone elses boundary and what they are responsible for and I can't and should not try to change. Your exp would be quick to moan if you steped on his patch and it was something he didn't want you to do, so don't when it is something he wants you to do either.

shanelle5 · 07/08/2013 08:16

Just googled his new company which launched Monday and had a snoop through the website. My heart lurched when I saw his photo and details on the "director" page Sad
It looks like he has a new baby now - his company, and wants to spend all his time nurturing that!
I feel all crap and down now FFS, Im such a twat and wish I could be a bit tougher and not feel so rejected by it all. I keep telling myself, I am and always will be richer than him in every way that counts as I have wonderful healthy beautiful children and they are more precious than anything bought. It just hurts that he doesnt feel the same and puts more stock in building a company (albeit for the future) than building a relationship with his son. Our DS will be 1 before we know it and hes missed every milestone and precious times with him as he chose to feck off when I was 33 weeks pregnant and invest all his time and energy elsewhere. He doesnt see it though, keeps phoning me and talking on and on all proudly as though he's doing something amazing for his children and going to buy them all houses and "stuff" I tried pointing out kids dont need stuff but a parent who is there day to day, and he just got annoyed that Im always negative, drag him down when he calls all excited that hes doing well and basically Im a miserable person just out to burst his bubble.
This is why I post here, to see honestly if it was me and if I do have a point or am I just a bitter sourpuss Confused

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niceupthedance · 07/08/2013 08:26

Really, don't invest too much energy on this berk. He's not going to listen. My biggest regret in my son's first year was wasting time trying to get his father to be a dad. Looking after an 8mo on your own is tough. Look after yourself and your baby and do things which make you feel good (just like this guy is doing).

betterthanever · 08/08/2013 19:47

nice is right and that is what I did, but one word of warning keep every bit of evidence you can because they can come back (years, and years later) and try and rewrite history i.e. say you would not let them have contact ... tis unbelievable what they will do.

shanelle5 · 08/08/2013 19:59

Oh gosh you ladies are all spot on, how strange! I think you may all have Ex Partners like mine sadly, as you would not be able to speak so knowingly without having first hand experience of this type of berk as nice rather politely called him! (Think she was rather restrained) Smile
Yes, better EXACTLEY that, he is manipulative and twists everything. He has a MH disorder actually so it makes things doubly hard but he's had years of practice and genuinely made me think I was going mad when we were together Confused He has successfully pulled the wool over the eyes of MHT and SS before now so quite a dangerous character Shock
Thankyou all for your replies, it was just the kick I needed xx

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betterthanever · 08/08/2013 21:06

It is an experience that no one ever forgets. MH disorder or not (courts rarely care) keep a journal, every little thing, never lose it - keep it for years/ever. It does take time for you to see what is really going on otherwise we would not have been with them in the first place. The patteren emerges - you are not going crazy - why do crazy people make you feel like you are? never before and thankfully never since have I had that expereince. Good luck you and DS are going to be just fine together. MN has been a lifeline as these guys are rare, most men are wonderful and we all meet up here and get the advice we need.

shanelle5 · 08/08/2013 21:28

Thankyou better, that is excellent advice I will definately do that.
Yes to MN being a lifeline at the moment! Whenever I feel down I just come on here and read to find others in the same situation and feeling the same as me. And of course things to make me laugh help (wankbadger lol) x

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