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Jeane82 · 11/09/2012 21:09

Hello! This isn't a question as much as it is information and it's something I've wanted to share for a while.

I'm a single parent to a ten year old and have always been a single parent. Two years ago I decided to go to university and I want to let people know how this really is a viable option for people, financially and otherwise.

First off, I had my son when I was 18 and I had only my GCSEs. After a million failures to get employed (plus a lack of desire to spend all my wages on childcare that I only needed because I was working - you know how it is) I was on income support and I was BORED, it got harder and harder to get a job the longer I was out of employment and I was essentially starting six years later and competing for minimum wage jobs with 18 year olds. It wasn't a great position to be in. I'd tried OU in the past but a combination of not being in the right place and having a young child made it difficult for me. Anyway, two years ago I decided to try my hand at university, I live in Manchester so we have a great university - Manchester - and two others, Man Met and Salford. I applied for all three starting on a foundation year - the year before a 3 year degree that catches you up to degree level. Applying was easy -my personal statement was nothing special, just that I liked the subject I was applying for and I'd not been in education because I was a parent - and I was rejected from Manchester (I expected that) and Man Met. Salford gave me an offer conditional on me writing a pretty simple trial essay and I was accepted. The university itself is an hour 2-bus ride from my house.

I have a couple of distinct advantages that I want to address first of all 1) I live 5 minutes from my kid's school and my kid was old enough that he could walk to/from school if i had an early/late class (he sits and watches TV in my parent's house with my little brother) and 2) if I didn't have that, there's a SureStart that picks up and drops off at his school too.

Obviously those things are dependent on your situation and for me and DS, it's not ideal but we manage it, we see each other a little less but it's still more than if I had a job.

The main thing I want to address is finance about it, really specifically, because I spent a lot of time researching each and every aspect of it to make sure it was viable, it took me a really long time to do and I never really found a great easy resource so I'm going to tell you specifically what financial help I receive. The position I was in was that I had never attempted a degree before, so I was entitled to full assistance with student loans and I was not (and am not) doing paid work.

My first year I was still entitled to income support because of the rules at the time (I believe it's now if your child is under 5?). Income support takes into account your student loan, less essential university expenses. I don't know how this is worked out but the upshot of it is that, in times when I getting my loan (Sept-Jun) I got around £1.50 a week IS which isn't a lot BUT during times your loan doesn't cover you are entitled to full IS, mine was approx £120 a week. Now I can no longer get IS, I'm entitled to apply for Jobseekers during summer (most students aren't) which would give me around the same amount.

My student loans and grants (excluding tuition fees which for me are £3000 a year):

In total over a single academic year (Sept-Jun): £9442

of that loans (to be repaid when working): £5000
of that grants (not to be repaid): £4500
plus, because you qualify for the grant, you get a special bursary of £400 each year which also doesn't have to be paid back.

For benefit purposes, as I mentioned before, only your loan (less required expenses - they work this out it's not much, around £200 of it), is taken into account. As far as the government is concerned your income is £5000.

This mean that you qualify for Child Tax Credit, mine is £62/week, child benefit, £20/week and housing benefit which doesn't quite hit the cap and so you contribute - my rent is £63/week of which I pay a total of £1.82. You also qualify for Council Tax Benefit, but students are exempt from that anyway (if you live with other adults there is a slight difference but you get partial exemption). I also get maintainence but I'm going to leave that out.

Childcare is included with Child Tax Credit - you get 75% of your childcare paid, I don't use this so I don't know much about it.

Basically, if you're in a situation like mine and you have 1 child (the benefit rates will obviously change based on amount of children but your Student Finance won't), over the course of a year (a whole year, not an academic year) and excluding getting jobseekers because I don't do that and so I'm not sure of the monies involved you get:

Annually - £13,920
Monthly - £1,160
Weekly - £267

Tax-free. £4500 of that is a loan (to be repaid when you're working). That's more than a minimum wage job, hell, it's more than an above minimum wage job. On top of that, two major expenses -rent and council tax - aren't there.

I know this will seem ridiculous to a lot of people - why should single parents get all this extra help? but this is an investment in your future. It's three/four years where you can have your own life and learn something that you love, or build your future career or hey, even if you just don't want to work and this seems better - why not? You shouldn't be excluded from an education just because you're in a situation where it's a little more difficult and you need a little more help.

I really wanted to talk about the financial thing mostly because I'm sure that's what puts a lot of people off and it's impossible to find a benefits calculator that will help you but if anyone has any questions about this or about my experience so far I'll be happy to answer it! I hope this wasn't too self indulgent :) I'm just kind of invested in making sure people know that university is a potential option for them - and it's one that no-one ever brought up during my trips to the jobcentre.

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RedHelenB · 12/09/2012 06:52

You would only get the childcare part of tax credits if you were working 16 hours or more. Definitely worth people looking into.

00mariposa00 · 12/09/2012 13:50

Hi, this is my first post on mumsnet, I've been meaning to register for a while now and after reading your post I finally have :)

I'm also going to be a single mum in about a months time and will continue my second year of university in February instead of this October.
Your post encouraged me to stick with my degree more, because I've been worrying how it will all work out financially etc.
I'm continuing my course as an online course so I can study from home and wont be away from my baby.
I didn't want to drop out of Uni, because I know in the long run this is a good investment for our future.

Thanks for your post, it encouraged me alot :)

mummystudent · 12/09/2012 19:00

Thanks for starting this thread... I would also like to tell everyone my success story if that's Ok?

I left school at 16 after finding out I was pregnant with DS. Was an absolute scandal at the time, as I was meant to go on to do my Highers after achieving 7 Standard Grades at Credit level.
I became a single mum when my DS was just a year old, and at that point I decided I would live with my Mother (also a single parent) until I was more settled.
In the 4 years that have passed I have flitted from various bar jobs, and have also trained as a dental nurse.
At the beginning of this year I realised that Dental Nursing was not for me, so I applied to an Access to Nursing course. You spend one year at college doing relevant Highers, then have a guaranteed place at University. I got on of 21 places from 470 applicants (Feeling VERY proud) and will be starting Mental Health Nursing in Sept 2013. DS started school this year too.
Finances are tight. My clothes are from eBay. But f**k it- I'm not longer tarred with the "Teen Mom" label :)

Best feeling ever? My son told his class "My Mum is at Big School. She's going to learn to be a nurse and look after everyone."

alphabetti · 12/09/2012 19:04

Just want to add to this and let anyone interested know that part time university study is also a great option for parents, wether or not you are in a partnership or going it alone.

I am a single mum who works 20-25 hours a week. I am an administrator and find it rather dull so wanted to get into something more interesting which would challenge me and give myself and my children a better life.

I did an access course on an evening and the staff there wrote me a reference for university but I think it would be acceptable to do your own and perhaps even get your employer to write it/part of it. Just make sure you talk about how your skills and experience relate to the course you are applying for.

I am now doing a law degree and as I receive a lot of tax credits and housing/council benefit I get all the fees paid and was able to receive £265 from student finance and /£240 from the university to cover petrol/books.

My mum is happy to look after children on an evening so I dont need to pay any additional childcare costs but if you study in the daytime you can apply for childcare grants. My course is over 4 years and the full time one is over 3 yrs so not a lot longer and still worth exactly the same so definately worth thinking about if you want to go to university. Also it is not just parents on my course, there are people who work and just didnt want to/could afford to give up their job whilst studying.

(didnt want to take anything away from OP just thought it was worth letting people consider part time courses if interested in going to university.)

KateSpade · 12/09/2012 19:08

You can get income support with your loan?

mrsmcv · 14/09/2012 00:21

I have little knowledge of the financial issues but I'm a lecturer at a university and I'd be proud to have you in my sessions. I'm a single parent myself and without my education, my future would have been bleak indeed when I needed to leave my violent husband. I can honestly say my education provided me with the confidence and earning capacity I needed to walk away and never look back. A good education is life changing and for my part, I will do everything I can to help students from non-traditional backgrounds succeed. You are a sterling and shining example to your kids and to other families. Good luck xx

Katie198 · 17/09/2018 01:19

Hello jeane 82
I loved reading your post I found this very helpful and lovely for you to share this your great success.I would really like to speak to you some more on this subject

I am a single mum my ds is 15 months old I have worked all my life right up until I had my daughter this year I tried to go back to work and was refused not once but twice when I had made an appeal I had applied to work flexi hours of 16 a week .mainly worked as a senior support working in the mental health /learning disabilities sector

I now find myself and my daughter on universal credit really struggling financially.i have always wanted to further my education and now I find my self at a cross roads at 33 yrs of age wanting to secure mine and my daughters futures especially hers when she’s older

I came searching to see what We would be entitled and came cross your post you have now inspired me so much more you are an inspiration thank you .Smile
Best wishes Katie

Fakehungarian · 17/09/2018 20:57

Hi Katie,
I'm a single parent to a 2 year old and am about to finish my mental health nursing degree.
I would say that the support is out there for single parents to study and universities are very understanding and accommodating.
Financially there's a lot of support too.
I think nursing is a great career for a single parent and the NHS are good employers.
I'm not sure how PM works on here but happy to talk more.
Ps. I'm also 33!

idema · 01/10/2018 12:33

Hi girls,

I`m going to somewhat revive this thread with my question. Please redirect me to another section/topic if not appropriate, I am new to this platform :)

I am a single mom of a 6 y.o. girl, we are from a EU country (Latvia) and I am seriously considering master`s studies in the UK. However, being a single parent, I have a lot of questions re: feasibility of such a daring idea.

For those who have walked this path (if any Grin): do the UK school hours cover the hours you need to spend at the University? Do UK schools offer any after-school activities for the kids who need to stay for the entire day due to their parents working? What about your lecture schedules, are they reasonable? Can they be combined with a schoolkid`s schedule? I am now looking at the University of York as they offer a programme I am very much interested in. If they accept me, that is Grin

Is it possible at all to combine UK graduate studies with rising a child?

Any insights will be appreciated, including are you out of your mind? Smile

mumto2babyboys · 05/10/2018 21:43

Hi I’m a second year student nurse and I have found it hard going because my parents are both dead. I’m Thinking of changing to teaching instead just to fit in with my children’s school hours.

Some schools do afterschool clubs but my main problem was that my daycare shuts at 6pm and the rush hour traffic means it takes me an hours drive to get back in time to collect them so I have to leave uni just before 5pm even if I have a class. Daycare charges £10 per 10 mins that you are late and your child gets upset waiting when all the other children have already gone home 😕

When I was on placement I was able to somewhat work different shifts but with uni I have had to miss loads of it and if one of my children and sick that’s another day/week I’ve missed.

Also just the course work and tests I have to still take care of my kids and do all the housework and then stay awake all night before an exam just to learn stuff as I dont have enough free time to study unless they are in bed.

I’ve found it stressful and expensive as I have 2 young children, their dad pays the min amount of child support and only sees them on a sat and there I a limit on how much you can claim for daycare fees. I get just slightly more than someone with one child gets but it costs me 800-1000 a month in daycare after they refund it. I really liked it the first term of first year it was great learning new stuff. Now it’s just a long hard slog, not sure if I want to finish the course anymore and most of the other parents on my course have dropped out or deferred for a while.

The difference between going to work and uni is with work when you get home that’s it until tomorrow but with uni you constantly have work to hand in and things to read before a certain lecture and tests to study for and it’s lots of stress all the time where we when I just worked in an office it was only stress while I was in work. If that makes sense!

mumto2babyboys · 05/10/2018 21:48

Also check the parking at the uni. As my uni has no parking and when you have already had a long morning getting the children ready it’s just another headache and a waste of time.

This is my second degree and while I like learning stuff I’m not sure if it is worth it or not as it is very stressful. Not sure if you will be entitled to any financial help from sfe student finance England, as you have to have lived in England for a set amount of time but you could call them and ask.

Mumto4amazingkids · 02/03/2019 09:31

Hi, I’m new to mumsnet this is my 1st post, I’m looking for advice if anyone could help me, I’m a single mum and I’m looking to go to university to do a nursing degree, I’m not sure what finances are available to me and what I would receive as I’m on benefits at the moment and not sure how If I would be able to live financially? Can anyone help me with any information please I’d be ever so greatful

Mumto4amazingkids · 02/03/2019 09:32

Forgot to mention I’m in Scotland, thanks

milajane16 · 20/07/2019 13:29

Hi, I too am in the same position, I have recently separated from my husband and find myself freaking out about the future, how will I survive when they are older on minimum wage, I literally won’t have any sort of like. I really want to further my education, and am considering a foundation degree to make my way to social work. I have been researching what I would be entitled too an a lone parent in full time education, and I don’t think it is a visible option, since universal credit has been rolled out in Northern Ireland.
Any advice would be greatly appreciated x

iloveshakespeare · 20/07/2019 20:05

Thanks Jeane82 for posting this. I too would love to tell all other single parents how achievable this is.

First of all, as long as you haven't done a degree before then you will be eligible for a student loan. If you are a loan parent and on a loan income then you are also likely to get additional grants - including one for childcare. For me doing uni was actually a fantastic financial decision - this wasn't why I did it - to be honest I was anticipating adverstity - but that's how it worked out.

Universites, moreover, really value mature students with life experience. I am in second year of an english degree and last year I won 'best shakespeare essay' and this year won 'best year 2 english essay' and 'top scoring english student'. Mature students go in to uni because they want to learn, not because they want a social life!

My girl is about to go into reception but for the past few years I have had a childcare grant which covered about 85% of nursery fees. I also got some extra scholarships from the uni for being on a low income. I also get child tax credit.

I'm so happy doing what I love and my daughter benefits from that too.

To the other posters who have asked abot nursing etc, just get into contact with the universities near to you. I imagine you will be as surprised as I was to find how accessible it is - and actually really financially viable.

carly2803 · 20/07/2019 22:54

Just curious - how accessible is doing mental health nursing on placement as a single parent? with no help other than full time nursery??

CharlesLeeRay · 21/07/2019 11:45

@milajane16 I am doing am access course, starting in September. I'm doing Biology with chemistry but my college offers a access to social work course. For this 1 year course you have no student income so will get full UC. I also have had my full child care funding approved for the time I'm in college. Once at university and my student finance is taken into account I get about £600 still from UC and full UC in the summer months.

How old is your child? Would you like me to roughly work out how much help you will receive?

CharlesLeeRay · 21/07/2019 11:46

@Mumto4amazingkids move to England or Wales, Scottish students have it quite hard on UC where as English and welsh students have more that can be disregarded.

milajane16 · 21/07/2019 12:18

Hi, my children are 16, 7, 5 and 2. I’m hearing a lot of horror stories about uc that’s really putting my off changing my circumstances. But if I don’t do something about my future now I will be too old I’m 37 now.

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