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Dis-interested mother, switched on father

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SwitchedOnDad · 04/09/2012 17:58

I find myself in a rather awkward position. I have an ex who is pregnant with my only child, a healthy little boy, and she had decided about 20 weeks in that she didnt want to be a mother anymore and being pregnant was just too much effort. Although i find that most women will at some point feel very low and perhaps regret decisions made, but in her case it was a decision made out of spite and a as a way of maintaining the support i give her on a daily basis. She wanted the baby as a method of getting her own house, as she has been in secure housing provided by the government for many years. I cant believe how bad my judgement of her character was as she has bi-polar disorder and is taking medication for it, something she always neglected to tell me, she has two cases coming up in court for burglary, criminal damage, perverting the course of justice and purgery.

We had lengthy conversations about how she feels and after three weeks we prepared an idea of what we wanted to do and presented it to her social worker, child protection services, our family mid-wife and a mid-wife allocated to us by social services. So I have decided to become a single father to our little man, (I asked her to outline what sort of visitation she wanted, and she requested 6 hours a week over three days) but am facing problems at every junction. Social services, in their infinite wisdom, have decided I am of questionable character because I used to be a photographer and they have gleened this from looking at my facebook of all things. I have various work on there, from weddings, children and families, events, products ..... well you get the idea. But because they have seen a semi-nude woman they have decided Im unable to be a decent father. They also feel that because she wont talk to them and im a very open person, Im bullying her into the decision, which has only been made because of her shallow, insensitive, self-absorbed and ignorant behaviour patterns put me in this position in the first place. She is still self harming too, in a very mild cosmetic fashion, but only when I wont see her for an evening. We've been split up since february but if i say i want time to myself, or that i want to see my friends, she invents some health emergency whichi invariably submit to and end up giving her the attention she wants.

My family wont talk to me anymore, everyone seems to be trying to impress upon me that she would be a far better parent even if she has criminal charges, of which i have none at all, pending court cases, extensive behavioural problems and the motivation of a sloth. Granted a father cannot be both parents effectively, argueably, but I have various qualities and standards which make me someone who can at bare minimum offer consistancy, reliability, unflinching devotion and an abundance of patience.

Im frustrated that the offical health people who are following the case are making no attempt to talk to me directly and even get an idea of who I am based on person experience. I cry daily and am finding it hard to motivate myself through a mild depression, I'm trying to be the best thing that could ever happen to him and salvage some normality from this situation but I have to argue my point without being given the chance to express my self. Im so stuck and I dont know what to do, aside from fight for my right to save him from a life of social services involvement, bad parenting and an uncertain future.

Currently Im preparing myself and my flat for the arrival of my little man, stocking up on consumables, trying not to buy everything that looks cute and lasts two seconds and reading as much as I can - This is such a wonderful site to refer to - and hope that I get the results I want. I dont know what to do to help myself and my little man and any helpful words of recommendations would be so warmly recieved.

Thank you for reading!

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NicknameTaken · 05/09/2012 18:04

Hi SwitchedonDad, thanks for coming back on the thread. I think you took our comments well, and I got a much better impression of you this time round. I'm very sorry to hear about the death of your dd.

I get that sometimes we need to rant about an ex, and God knows, I do it too. I'm happy to know that you don't say this kind of thing to her.

I really wish you good luck. As I said before, all you can do is hang in there and show yourself to be a loving presence. I hope you and your son have a wonderful relationship. And I hope you can carry on supporting your ex so that she too can have positive role in your son's life, whatever that may be. The stronger and happier both parents are, the better for your child.

crackcrackcrak · 05/09/2012 18:06

That's quite an age gap and a v short relationship by the sound of it!

Sorry but I'm 33 - a 17 year old would feel like dating almost a child to me.

Corygal · 05/09/2012 20:49

I can really see why you want your child kept safe after the appalling tragedy you have lived through. My heart goes out to you. And who couldn't see your concerns about the mother.

I guess the way forward is to make absolutely sure you can tick all the boxes SW ask for to make sure that you can take the baby if and when. Are you really prepared to to carry on a relationship with the mother for the rest of your life as co-parents? Can you rescue a support network from your own family? And the rest.

SwitchedOnDad · 07/09/2012 13:46

Many thanks for your helpfull comments everyone. I have a meeting with social services, SW and one of our widwives on monday to discuss everything. It appears that someone has maliciously reported me for being a porn photographer and drug addict, so they are following that up too, and makes up a great deal of the concerns they have. It also appears that she has realised that she needs to communicate wiith the officals more, otherwise it seems like im pulling her strings. Just as a side note, we thought she went into labour early yesterday. Luckily I had prepared her a bag in advance. Fortunately the lovely people at the delivery suite were really good, and confirmed he was healthy and there was no breach at the neck of the womb.

Another problem has become apparent; I was talking to her about the fact she always finds a reason to come to my house late at night, and I told her she just needs to ask if she wants to see me, rather than making up excuses and worrying people. Following her rather aweful experiences as a teen she finds it hard to sleep in case someone comes and gets her during the night. I tried to help and reassure her as much as I could but i recommended that a professional could help her more than I possibly could. And whilst I would support and help her as much as I can, certain serious problems need to be addressed by people who have background and training. Is that the right suggestion, did i come accross as being disinterested or unwilling to help?

@toothbrushtheif: Thank you. Im going to take your advice and talk to my allocated midwife first, she's really open and easy to talk to. I think maybe she can help me with a simple release mechanism for my thoughts. I think whilst taking your advice i should follow the advice to gave to her, and talk to people who are profesionally experienced. Im not sure if counselling would work as I have built a fairly good coping mechanism. But it all followed three deaths in my close family and my bankruptcy early this year so ive pretty much buried any sensitivity and am just getting on with the tasks in hand. Though I must admit, this method of talking with good people such as you is really helping my processing information.

@nicknametaken: thank you, Im not a bad guy, but i probably didnt come accross brilliantly to begin with. Thank you so much for your support, its good to talk about this stuff. She tends to go through my phone when im not looking, unfortunately this meant she read a rather uncomplimentary message i sent to a close friend months ago, so im so very careful about who i speak to. This annonimity is brilliant.

@crackcrackcrak: I can see your point, however I'm pretty young for my age and she is pretty old for hers. It was a relationship based on heavy drinking and good food, just a bit of fun you could say. Maybe it was nice of a guy my age to have a young nubile lady on his arm, and maybe it was nice for her to have a professional looking man on hers.

@corygal: It was a heart breaking time of my life, she was only 2 months old. The mothers new boyfriend made it very difficult for me to see her, and when i would meet the mother to talk and maintain relationships she would arrive with sunglasses which poorly hid the black eyes she'd be trying to hide. The mother was so scarred of the bf that she didnt even press charges when *** died of her injuries. I never got to say goodnight to her that one last time, or tuck her in and kiss her little head, or stare into eachothers eyes on the changing mat. I was threatened with serious violence if i even went near the mother, but i did just to get any time with my child, whether she was inutero or not. Perhaps this is why im so worried about getting this wrong, and why I wont spend a minute away from him when he arrives. I have rebuilt my relationship with my mum a bit more, but my parents are nearly 70 and have the morals and values of post war wales/england. My dad wont be in the same room as me, i dont think he'll forgive me. but my mum is brilliant, shes one of the strongest women ive ever met. Whenever i talk to her i tell her i love her and make sure she knows shes inportant to me. I was a bit of a wild child, and through this and living in squats and on the street when i was 14-16 i managed to put a massive distance between me and my dad. After all that i started my own business which i ran for a couple of years, gave up drugs and got my life sorted. It took til i was about 28/29 before my dad accepted me again and even said it would be nice to see me more. Alas, things changed at the beginning of the year.

Thanks to everyone who has commented on this thread. Ive had some good advice and will be ticking all my boxes, expressing myself to the right people in the right way, getting character references and continue my unflinching support for the mother to be. I wish you all a lovely weekend and I'll update this thread to let you know what happens, should you be ineterested.

"Dont sweat the petty stuff, and dont pet the sweaty stuff"
---Steve Tyler

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MagicHouse · 07/09/2012 23:44

It sounds like you have been through some tough times. The story of your daughter sounds heartbreaking, but a bit confusing. (I don't understand why your ex would need to "press charges" for justice in these circumstances to take place.)
You come across as lacking in confidence (you seem to need approval) and very much in need of counselling and support. Maybe that is why there are concerns over your wish to be the main carer here.

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