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Not what I expected...at ALL

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SugaCane · 25/08/2012 23:09

Hi everyone - this might be a long one so I apologise in advance.

After nearly 12 years, I asked my - now ex - DP to leave a couple of months ago... Over the years, there has been ALOT of 'bad' that has happened between us; he's smacked me across the face twice, caused upset between my closest friends and me, cheated on me twice - the first time I found out while I was 3 months pregnant and the other was an online relationship that I found out about when he left his details open on my laptop and went to work. He was also quite controlling and bossy. Sounds ridiculous that I stayed with him so long...

The main reason, I think was because of our 7 year old DS and also because I really did feel that I loved him. I grew up in a single-parent home and while I don't feel that I missed out on anything - it was just something I never
wanted for my own children.

While there were some truly awful times between us, there was also some good and I always believed him to be a good father who loved his son. When we would argue, with him telling me of all the awful character traits I had and I would ask him why he stayed with me, he would say it was because of our DS.

When he left, it was far less dramatic than our previous break-ups - I was really scared when I asked him, not sure of what his reaction would be. He was angry and when he left, I changed the locks and my mobile number leaving the landline open so that he could still maintain contact with our DS - which he did.

He would, however, call at all different times of the day which I felt was quite disruptive to my DS, especially as he was calling after DS's set bedtime on some days. This went on for about a couple of weeks and during this time, I had visited a solicitor to arrange a written agreement for my ex to have access/contact with our DS on specified dates and times - mainly to keep things as consistent for my DS as possible. When he would call, he would ask my son when would he be able to see him and so I felt that as things between us had not been great that it would result in arguments so I went to the solicitor in order to avoid this.

The first letter sent to him outlined the agreement, advising him not to contact me directly but to decide whether the arrangements would be suitable for him. He ignored their advice and called the same day I presume he received the letter (the same day I got the copy) bombarding my son with 'when is your mum going to let me see you' and demanding to speak to me - which I refused to do - especially in front of my DS. I spoke to the solicitor about this the next day, who wrote to him again stating that if he continued to contact me before the arrangements had been agreed, he could be subject to arrest and to contact the solicitor with his response to the agreements. Since then, 1 July there has been no further contact from him - stating whether he agrees or disagrees.

I know I made the right decision in regards to my relationship with him and I know some people reading this will think - why if he was violent to you, would you want your son to have contact with him? But, my son is really missing his dad terribly - I have just had another upset bedtime with him. I have always been a believer that when a relationship breaks down, that children should not be used to hurt the other person and would never keep my son from seeing his dad, if he was safe and that was what he wanted. I know that my ex cannot be forced to see his DS and if he decided that he would rather not, we could cope with that. It's the not knowing that is hard for me to explain to my son and if I am truthful - to myself. It makes me feel that he is just lurking around, ready to strike - maybe to take me to court or telling people that I am denying access - I just don't know.

Remarkably, he has made 2 payments into my account over the last 2 months which I presume is for CM - but as it was never asked for from me or the amount agreed between us - I'm assuming it is to avoid CSA payments...
When I kicked him out, it was after months of feeling really disconnected emotionally from him and feeling him distancing himself away from me - with his previous MO, my gut instinct was telling me that he was cheating again. Even if he wasn't, the idea that I would always live my life thinking that was enough for me to call it a day once and for all. The lack of communication from him is making me believe that my intuition was right.

To be honest, his ability to just walk away from his son astounds and disgusts me. I just wanted to hear from any other lone parents that had gone through/is going through this and how they coped? Every day that I'm happy that he is no longer involved romantically with me is marred with the thought that he could do this to our DS.
Is there anyone who could give me any advice/pearls of wisdom/words of encouragement out there?

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Slowcooker123 · 26/08/2012 00:29

The short answer? He's lost his control over you so is punishing you by hurting you the way he knows he can hurt you hardest- your son.

Arsewipe!

SugaCane · 26/08/2012 01:36

Slowcooker123, your description at the end of your reply is priceless (and spot on - if not a little TOO kind) Grin thank you for making me laugh about this!!
I actually think you might just be right - he knows that DS will be asking/crying for him and is probably expecting me to cave in and call him and ask him to see him as I probably would have in the past.
I hadn't thought of his behaviour as a direct attack on me before Hmm I would've believed that having his son in his life would have been much more important than getting back at me...But, come to think of it, it's just the selfish, immature, 'what I say goes' attitude that is so typical of him Angry
Thanks for shedding some light on this Thanks

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RedHelenB · 26/08/2012 09:01

FWIW, I left my ex to it. He wouldn't arrange contact with me (for reasons best known to himself) and did it through dds. Eldest was 7 at the time.They don't like it but accept it - if they are busy they say so, if not he has them. He has only once or twice had them alone without his now wife being present which again they accept but don't like. It took him a year to see his son ( I was pregnant when he left for ow). I think he totally put himself first BUT the children want to see him & in your situation I would let your son talk to him, ask you if going out with dad on say Sunday is ok & take it from there.

MrsTomHardy · 26/08/2012 10:24

I think you did the right thing.

Some men like to be in control by not agreeing to contact/times for phoning etc as they think it gives them the upper hand without thinking of the actual kids.

My xh and i split up 12 years ago and he saw our 2 dc's regularly. Then over the 3 years contact reduced to sundays for about 5 hours!!!!
Then one day i got a phone call saying he couldnt afford to see our dc's again and that was that!! They were 4 and 6 at the time Sad
I was very angry at the time....and sad for my boys. But tbh he was a crap father anyway and my boys have blossomed into nice teenagers. They are emotionally well balanced and they don't feel theyve missed out on anything.

SugaCane · 26/08/2012 14:15

Thank you ladies for your advice Thanks

It's sooo hard knowing what the right thing is to do in this situation. I've heard so many stories of how fathers have just abandoned their children in this way and I guess, stupidly, I just never thought this would happen to me.
I can totally see where you are coming from RedHelenB, but because the lawyers are involved, I don't want to run the risk of calling him against their advice and if things were to get nasty again and we went to court, then that may be held against me in some way..?

And like your situation MrsTomHardy (great name by the way!) that he has done this now, I'm worried that if regular contact were to start up, then at some point in the future he could just disappear again and break my son's heart all over again.

The way I've been looking at it, he's the adult (supposedly) here and if he wants to see his son, he knows that all he has to do is agree to the arrangements and all this could be stopped - it's just that simple but that he won't is speaking volumes to me and most hurtfully, to my son.

When my son asks, I try to be as truthful as possible... He knows that Daddy has been sent a letter with times and days and that if he says 'Yes' then he can start seeing him very soon but all I can say is 'I don't know' when he asks why he hasn't called...

I'm so confused with this... I think I need to think really carefully about what the next move should be... Maybe mediation...? But I know that's usually when there hasn't been any agreement after trying between both parties. When I spoke to the solicitiors a few weeks ago about my son asking for his father, their response was - he can't be forced to see him and to wait and see if/when he gets in contact.

I just remembered this...a couple of weeks ago, I didn't realise that even though my number had changed that he was still in my What'sApp contact list and saw that his status was showing 'At the cinema' and just before that 'At the gym' Oh, really?! While your son has been crying for you every night?! Angry But then I see how upset my son is and I start to wonder am I really doing what's best for him in all this?

ARGHHH!!!!! Confused

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RedHelenB · 26/08/2012 17:19

It will never be held against you, letting your son have contact with your ds in court so don't worry about that. Solicitors represent their clients - they are not the law! Most judges would prefer contact to be sorted out without the involvement of court. Why not let ds contact him if he is missing him. Yes set times are great but at the end of the day if it is irregular contact or none I know what most KIDS would choose.

balia · 27/08/2012 18:15

Didn't the solicitor mention mediation before sending the letters? It just seems a bit heavy-handed to send out a list of dates without any negociation and then threaten to have him arrested! I understand he has behaved badly but people do that in the midst of break-ups. Seems like now you have a stand-off and you both want the other to back down, while the little one is left in the middle.

I would write and suggest mediation, saying that it was not your intention that all contact should cease, merely that you wanted to work out what arrangements would be best for everyone and you would like to discuss the best arrangements for DS who misses his Dad.

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