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Selling on eBay whilst claiming benefits. Would CSA trace absent father for this?

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Challen · 06/08/2012 17:07

My children's father has been out of employment and claiming jobseeker's allowance for around 15 years now. He is also fraudulently claiming some kind of incapacity benefit or whatever it's called now, pretending to be ill. I have no idea what exactly.

He also earns thousands of pounds selling specialist equipment on eBay, although that is sporadic, for example he will knuckle down and spend 3 months on ebay and make a packet, then do nothing for a few months, then pick it up again. He never has savings, always spends what he's earnt almost as soon as he's sold something, usually just on more equipment to sell. He doesn't declare this income.

I have never asked for financial assistance from him as there is no way of proving to the CSA he earns thousands on eBay - I don't have his bank account details nor his Paypal a/c details and don't know his eBay ID name anymore. He also uses fake names and addresses to sell on eBay to avoid being tracked by benefits people.

This last year has been difficult for me though, I had to pull my 3 year old out of nursery because I couldn't afford one morning a week (I know he's free come September) and I'm two months behind with my rent at present since the govt reduced my housing benefit by £100 a month (three of us in 2-bed house. two children age 3 and 5).

I have never asked him for financial support, but am now thinking I may. Just odd bits of money for things like new term school shoes or uniform, etc would be so appreciated. Or paying for something like Brownies or similar for my 5 year old once a week. I can't afford to stay living in this village anymore so am soon going to have pull my eldest out of school and move to a nearby town and a cheaper house, possibly even a one bedroom, so need to try and start saving some money for removal costs, deposits, etc.

What I want to know is, where do I start?

Do I just email CSA and explain that he sell on eBay when I can't provide documented proof he does? Because if they mention this when contacting him, he will know I have effectively dobbed him in for this fraud, and being as we left him due to DV issues, it's not a risk I want to take.

I'm not trying to fleece him, I have just reached the point 5 years on, where I am at rock bottom financially, and am struggling to support my children, to the point we are about to be evicted. I can't even afford a week's shopping this week, or next week in fact, because I'm so overdrawn, we are goijng to be living on value beans and packets of half opened old pasta shells in the back of the (empty) food cupboards!

What is your advice? Is there really any point contacting CSA and starting the ball rolling when he will know it is me who has mentioned eBay to them? And can they even do anything about that anyway, tracinbg his selling activities? Because he must have made about fifty grand in the last 15 years.

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Olympia2012 · 06/08/2012 17:19

Csa won't be interested in eBay. Fwiw my ex sounds identical to yours. They did however, start collecting £5 a week from his benefits

Then I text him. I politely asked for a bit of help with cadet camp and a family laptop for school work. ( he has no contact ordered by court) he put £ into my account the next day.

Just my story.

stargirl1701 · 06/08/2012 17:22

HMRC would be far more interested in his eBay activity. Do you know his NI number?

solidgoldbrass · 06/08/2012 17:24

Ebay's a bit of a grey area, because you are allowed to sell your own belongings, and the money you make doesn't really count as 'income' (EG if I sell my clothes, jewellery, old books etc because we are flat broke I don't have to declare it).

Olympia2012 · 06/08/2012 17:32

I would think it would cost more to investigate than it's worth tbh. If he changes details regularly it will be difficult. And the money is long gone so won't be given to you anyway

Challen · 06/08/2012 17:35

No, I don't have his NI number.
He gets away with it because he's a hoarder and he can claim everything he sells are his own possessions, notwithstanding the fact mostly what he sells is specialist equipent he's just bought from police auctions or on eBay itself.

He doesn't need to claim benefits, he owns two houses outright, no mortgage, and has enough hoarded away to support himself financially for the rest of his life and then some.

Meanwhile, if I asked him for even £20, he would swear at me and tell him I owe him money (for the petrol it used to cost him to drive down to see his children) :/

I guess there's no point at all then, if the CSA wouldn't consider his substantial income as income, just because it's eBay.

Oh well... gives up

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HerRoyalNotness · 06/08/2012 17:36

50k in 15 years? So about 3.3k per year, which you could have had 55/mth of.

Are you able to send him a message and ask him to willingly help out, or is that avenue not open to you?

Challen · 06/08/2012 17:40

No, HRH, for the reasons above. He will tell me I owe him money, because I stopped paying his petrol costs for travelling 200 miles to see his children (so he just stopped visiting his children). Despite the fact I lent him two grand years ago which he never repaid :/

It's ok, I guessed I wouldn't have a hope in hell.

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omfgkillmenow · 06/08/2012 17:49

CSA only go on income declared my ex works cash jobs and I only get £20 a week. Has to be inland revenue first. Don't hold your breath.

ColouringIn · 06/08/2012 17:55

challen not sure if you have sought advice about your overdraft or not but if it's got so bad that you can scarcely do a weeks shopping I'd be inclined to open a new basic bank account and get the next lot of benefits paid in there. Then negotiate with the current bank regarding a repayment plan.

corlan · 06/08/2012 20:35

Challen - does he rent out the rooms in either of his houses? If so, I wonder if that could be classed as income.

NatashaBee · 06/08/2012 20:45

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Challen · 06/08/2012 22:03

No, there's no facility to rent out rooms, he's a hoarder.
He doesn't buy cars and mansions, he buys specialist electrical equipment.

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cestlavielife · 06/08/2012 22:36

if he owns two houses you might ask a lawyer about claiming some share for the children under children's act schedule one - ask in legal maybe. were you ever a joint owner with him on any property?

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