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What happens when children refuse to see dad?

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cheekychopsmum · 26/06/2012 11:25

I'm writing on behalf of a friend because he is desperate and misses his children. Quick history:- he separated from wife and she accused him of having affair and on the day she threw him out told the children 8 and 10 that he was leaving to be with another woman. (In the weeks leading up to this they had both spoken with the children and explained they were going to be separating and everything would be ok. The children although obviously upset did seem to accept this and seem to be dealing with it, in so much as they were asking questions and talking about it openly). Since the day he was thrown out he has not seen his eldest child as she has said she doesn't want to see him. She is angry and upset. She won't speak on the phone and her mum has said she won't force her. This is coming up to 6 months. The younger child also didn't want to see him, but following a mediation session it was agreed that there would be structured times he could come and take the child for something to eat and then return within 2 hours also a couple phone calls a week. This was a couple Of months ago and the first visit was great and child really positive with dad and they had fun. After that though he got a text from mum to say child came home very upset and it was awful for her to see her child distressed like that. Week later next visit child was visibly upset and saying didnt want to go. Agreed eventually and seemed to have a good time. Was relaxed and laughing. Since then relationship has deteriorated. When he rang child would say don't want to come and don't want to talk. He continued to ring and try and chat. Mum has said if child doesn't want to come she won't force it and doesn't bring child to door so they could even talk. This has been the status quo for the last couple of weeks, (including fathers day) where he has turned up twice a week only to be told my mum that child doesn't want to come. He has not got into confrontation with her but just put his head down and walked away. He is clearly devestated, the children are his life and before the split he was the main carer. He took them to school every day, made their meal meals nearly every day, took them to their activities. Basically was a huge part of their lives and the 3 of them were very loving. This situation can not be healthy for them and they must be very confused. He wants to help them through this but feels at a loss to what he can do. He will not give up on them and wants to know how he should deal with this situation. 6 months of no contact with his eldest is killing him and it is affecting his health. He is at the position where he feels he can not avoid court as he doesn't think the children should be put in the position of making the discsion as they are trying to protect mum and the fact that the youngest was seeing him and not the eldest, must have put a lot of pressure on. Also he has no confidence in mum moving this forward. All she says is the children aren't ready and he must wait. How will they be ready if he can't talk to them and explain and make things better. I think they are trapped in a vicious circle that is too hard for young children to deal with. Too much responsibility.

Sorry I've gone on! Please any advise

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RedHelenB · 26/06/2012 13:13

Go to court pronto in this case as the longer it goes on the less likely it is that the kids will want to see him. If he was the main carer could he still do that role as courts come down hard on parents who try to alienate their children from the other parent? Finally, is he living with the person he had the affair with?

cestlavielife · 26/06/2012 14:32

and by going to court he will show the children now and in the future when they ask that he was doing all he could to see them

origamirose · 26/06/2012 14:43

He must do everything he can to see his children (go to court quick as he can). This is very similar to what happened when my parents separated. I have never forgiven my dad for not doing everything he could to see us nor my mum for manipulating my feelings. Net result is one fucked up adult. Please encourage him to work with his ex through court I'd necessary to ensure those kids manage to salvage some of their childhoods!

cheekychopsmum · 26/06/2012 15:12

He is terrified that the children Will either be coached or off their own back stand up in court (or however it works) and say they don't want to see him. It Will kill him. But i think he Will go to court regardless of how much it Will hurt him because he believes he is a good and positive person in their lives and long term they Will see that. Yes he can continue to provide the same level of care and commitment and wants to, but also willing to work with mum to make it work in the best way for children. He just don't believe that not being in their lives is best for them.

He has rented his own house and first thing he did was decorate a room for them and made it special. He lives on his own. They are his priority.

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Fortyshadesofgreen · 27/06/2012 12:43

I would only echo what the other posters say CCM - he has to do everything he can. That is going to involve putting himself in positions where he could be really hurt, but he has no choice.

It won't be easy for him, but the longer the current situation carries on then the more difficult it is to get to the root of the problems and get some sort of solution for all parties.

MagicHouse · 27/06/2012 18:34

He needs the advice of a good solicitor ASAP. He can try some out for a free half hour of advice, and then choose which one to go with. I had to come up with agreed times for access. It was part of my divorce though, so I guess if your friend wasn't married it's different? I think it's recognised now that children need a positive relationship with both parents if that is possible, so a court will rule for fairer and consistent access if there has been no history of the children being unsafe in his care.

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