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How do I deal with this?

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hidingfromlife · 02/01/2012 20:37

Ok slight back history:

DS age 5 and DS age 3. Married to their dad in 2005, he walked out 2009. Cited that couldnt cope with kids etc, but has since managed to rewrite history in his head that I was the problem etc. He got with current girlfriend in summer 2010, they moved intogether quickly and they are having a baby with lots of health problems in Feb. He pays bare minimum CM, which his girlfirned keeps arguing is too much. We arent yet divorced because neither of us can really afford it, yet shes pushing for it heavily. They live in a 1 bed flat, and my boys stay once a week overnight on a double pull out sofa bed.

Basically I spoke to my ex inlaws today. They have been trying to get me on my own for weeks apparently, but the ex/girlfriend kept getting in the way (they told me not to come there boxing day, have made out for over a year that I am not welcome anywhere with the inlaws)

They told me that she basically hates my children. She slags them off all the time. She has pushed all their toys and belongings out of the flat, either binning it or sending it back here. She is extremely controlling and jealous - the ex is never allowed anywhere without her. (I knew this about being in my company as she blew a fuse when he came to my house alone after my eldest had an op) But she is like this with his family too. She has told him she expects him to give up work when the baby comes, basically so they dont have to pay any child maintenance to me.

She begrudges the children going there. Moaned about having to leave her parents at 5.30pm on Christmas Day so they could see the boys. Is currently moaning that eldest son at 5 still needs to be in a high backed booster seat, as they will struggle to fit 3 children in the car. Is making lots of noise about no overnights, and basically very little contact.

The inlaws caught me today and my initial thought was that they wanted to have a go at me - I have been led to believe for months that they hate me. But instead they told me they still think of me as their daughter in law, always will and are sickened by him trying to shirt his responsibilities. They want to see the children as much as possible, to help pay for things that he wont like school shoes and school trips and want me to be in their life as much as possible. I was in tears, they were so nice to me. I am also devastated at the things they told me about my ex's girlfriend and the way she speaks about the children.

The kids have just spent 3 nights there as part of the custody arrangements - they are meant to go 1 night a week, and an extended 3 night stay twice a year. But they were upset every night on the phone wanting to come home to me, and it broke my heart. The ex and girlfriend played happily families, throwing money at them, but they must have felt something was off. Someone said something to the ex a few weeks back about her - and he said "the kids love her", to which they replied "shame its not both ways" and he shrugged it off. I dont expect her to love my children, but equally I dont expect her to push them out. She has basically eroded every inch of them out of the flat - they gave their dad a photo of them both last christmas in a frame. First the frame was taken for somehting else, now the photo I think has gone.

I arranged a long time ago for them to have the boys next Friday night because of a big reunion I am going to. But she booked something for the saturday morning and demanded he go to - so want to drop the kids off at 8.30am. My inlaws have said they will have the boys instead - even though they tried to prevent this. I just feel gutted that he seems to want so little to do with his current kids. They have spent 3 nights and 4 days with them and not once did they spend any time alone with their dad. Not even for a walk to the shop. She looks up things like CSA money on the internet to argue about the pittance he pays.

I dont know what to do with all this. Apparently the ex's dad wants to thump him and hates what he is doing. They all hate her. Its such a situation that I dont know what to do with all this. I am in tears, my head is spinning.

I know things will change when the baby comes next month anyway (well, to an extent. She is very sick, and strong possibility she will die or be in hospital long term) She has alienated the ex from all his friends and family basically. And now she seems to want to erode the rest of his past. And I cant deal with the fact that this is my kids. I can tell when she is there when he rings to speak to me/the kids - he speaks to me like utter shit, where as when she isnt there he is just a chatty friendly person.

I am humbled by my inlaws. I am devastated that we were both spun stories making out that we were hated by each other and unwelcome. I am glad they are going to step in to help me with the boys, but dont know how to deal with all this. My sister in law and brother in law were there too and said the same story and offered the same support.

Sorry, epic post and not sure what to really make of it all myself. (have namechanged as its a bit detailed)

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NatashaBee · 02/01/2012 21:02

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gillybean2 · 02/01/2012 21:12

Big hugs to you.
How awful to hear these things and also to realise you were being misled. Fortunately your inlaws weren't taken in and have set you straight now.

All you can do is be there for your boys. You can't change her jealousy or fears (and that is what it is - her own insecurity).

Hold your boys close and let them know you love them and that they are loved. If they ask why she is like that then just say you don't know but that you and dad love them very much and always will.
Perhaps suggest to your ex that the boys go to the inlaws for contact and he sees them there as new partner is unwell and probably needs quiet and rest etc with baby coming... Put it that way, that you're trying to make things easier for him/her and it'll be easier for him to agree.

It must be hard for her being unwell and not knowing what the future will bring. She obviously want to be his number one priority and is pushing your boys out to achieve that for her and her baby.
Play the long game here. And wait and see. If she really is as ill as you say things may resolve themselves one way or another. At least you'll know in a couple of months time which way to go to move forward.

hidingfromlife · 02/01/2012 21:32

Their grandparents have said they want to see them as much as possible and we have already arranged a day contact and sure we will have an evening one soon. They are horrified that I recieve so little money and that it is soon going to nothing, and want to help with things like school shoes. His sister has just accepted me on FB, and we are arranging things too. I have missed them all incredibly in the last 2.5 years.

I understand it is hard for her with the baby etc, but she seems to be going out of her way to make it harder for everyone. I was told a few weeks back by a friend that she had been like this, and I knew her from a long time ago (she basically made a play for my ex husband when we were first together, in front of me, and then tried the same thing with my friend and his girlfriend 2 years ago) but didnt realise she was quite so manipulative and selfish as she seems to be.

I dont think the kids have picked up on a lot, they did want to come home but not sure whether thats just because they are young and wanted me? They have had spells of 3-4 nights away before, but not for 6 months or so. I just want to keep them with me forever now, my babies are my life.

We only have 4 more overnights scheduled before the baby comes. So i will go ahead with them. I dont think overnights will happen after that if the baby does ever come home, as she will find a way to stop them. Which devastates me as the boys adore their dad despite everything (I have always worked at ensuring they never ever see any arguments between us)

The money side is annoying - more that I cant believe they have looked into it to discover that if he gave up work and not her thye have to pay nothing. How can someone honestly not want to provide for their own kids? and be that selfish? But more than anything it is the time and love I want for my kids.

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hidingfromlife · 02/01/2012 21:34

My mum was dropping them off on a Friday next week. She wont be dropping them to her thats for fricken sure. They will go to their grandparents and their dad can get them from there. She is not ever being alone with my children again.

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WibblyBibble · 03/01/2012 11:15

God, that is awful. I don't know what to suggest, it seems like you are doing the right things by arranging things with the ex-in-laws, ex himself is going to have to try and sort things out with the new gf I suppose, as she's obviously not going to listen to reason. Poor you and your children though, having to deal with it!

Bossybritches22 · 03/01/2012 11:45

You poor thing,dreadful situation.

The one BIG positive is that you have the XPIL's & XSIL onside again, which is marvellous both for you in terms of support & the children in terms of their extended family. It's often the GP's/ Aunties/ cousins etc who lose out in break-ups as they don't always get included in access visits.

The other thing is that it validates your opinion & thoughts about the new GF, she is a nasty piece of work regardless of her baby/illness situation.

I think you are right to keep access visits as much as possible at the GP's house & if your Ex wants to see them it has to be there. She'll probably like that too, unfortunately, but your DC's are more important than that woman.

Their Dad will probably relax & play with them more at his parents house anyway so although it might be less often if it's nicer time with him that's better.

Chin up it sounds like you now have a good back-up team, use them for support as they're firmly in your corner!

RedHelenB · 03/01/2012 14:39

My ex's wife is like this in terms of him never being alone with the children or having contact with me. Bear in mind that situations do change & when the new baby arrives things may be different.

It may be that talk of giving up work is due to the sick baby rather than in order to cut maintenance to you.

Cross bridges as yo0u come to them else you will overthink everything. Great news that the grand-parents want to be more involved though.

hidingfromlife · 03/01/2012 18:29

Sadly Helen I know the giving up work is to cut the maintenance. They havent been discrete about it, and she is forever checking how much he pays and looking on google etc at ways of lowering it. If he gives up work, she can work and earn as much as thye want and they pay me nothing. Though I think it is also a control thing - she doesnt want him anywhere without her, and that includes work.

I went to see my DS's godparents today who have been friends of both of ours for years. Walked in and burst into tears - cried myself to sleep last night too - and they were lovely. I have always tried to keep them out of most of it, as they are joint friends, but apparently thats gone by the wayside too as he's not allowed to visit, or speak to his former best friend, alone. Godfather has 2 children from a previous relationship himself - one of which he sees regularly, one of which he doesnt (not his choice) so he was a great source of help, and is going to subtlely encourage (like BIL) ex to keep his responsibilities as a father.

He has told people apparently that the girlfriend is number 1 and first priority over anyone or anything else, including his father, his children, his sister everything. He has no friends left at all apparently.

I am feeling a lot better today. Just anxious about having to speak to them at all.

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Blondeshavemorefun · 03/01/2012 23:02

i dont know what to say apart from the gp's sound fab and sorry that you have both been lied to by your ex (hes an arse)

and hope you manage to sort things out

thepeoplesprincess · 03/01/2012 23:06

Is the contact arrangement court-ordered?

If not, I think you need to consider whether you think it OK for your young children to be sent to an environment where they'll be openly hated.

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