Do I have a right to know where ex is taking sons on holiday?

[martine2]

Can you help? The ex is taking our 2 youngs sons on holiday for 8 days soon but refusing to say where? Do I have a right to know? He has parental responsibility for our youngest (aged 5) but not for our 7 year old (as law has changed since he was born in 2003). I am worried as I would like to know where they are going? I have concerns over the ex's ability to parent responsibly and he has lied to me in the past, for example he moved in with girlfriend last year and gave me a false address as to where our sons were staying every other weekend. I did not find out for nearly 10 months and that was by accident...I have numerous other examples...what are my rights as their mother to knowing where they are during this holiday time?
look forward to hearing any replies that will help me in my predicament!
thanks!
Martine2

emergency contact tho could be exP mobile phone (if necessary police could tracka dn trace it?) so while of course he should tell you roughly where they going, with mobile phone the contact in emergency thing goes out the window

Mobile phones only work if they are charged, have signal and are in a persons possession. I have lost a phone on holiday before, and have certainly forgot a charger. Although mobiles would be the first port of call in an emergency, I wouldnt feel confident if it was the only method of contact with my kids who could be any where in the world... I dont think its unreasonable.

I doubt you could get the phone tracked / traced by the police without a court order, whether or not it would even be effective if you didnt know the country would be another matter.

I just dont see what the problem is with providing an address & contact number, the only problem it seems to me is the reason why exP wants to withhold this information..

I'm struggling to think under what circumstances the OP would urgently need to phone the address of where the children are staying on holiday?

I truly understand how frustrating it is. Like I said, my DH's ex is going away at some point over the next month for 2 weeks, and is refusing to tell DH when or where (despite him having court ordered access which won't be possible in that time). Yes he could go to court but what would be the point in the end? The children are going on holiday and will enjoy it.

Control freaks are terrible to deal with, but I'm not sure how preventing the trip helps the situation.

Do you have a residence order (deciding where the children live)?
I have a residence order for my lo and I can legally take him out of the country for up to a month without any consent from anyone else holding PR. However they cannot legally do this the other way around.

I know what country my two are in, but that's it.

I agree with allnew.
If there was an emergency involving them, I wouldn't know unless my ex phoned me.

If I had an emergency I wouldn't phone them and tell them. Or I can't think of a reason why I would.

I think if people want to know they should, but it can only be for comfort as I can't see what difference it makes.

My ex refused to tell me his new address when he moved, there was no issue of me visiting him, I had known where he had lived for the previous 2 /1/2 years and never been there! It was just about him being in control. We ended up back in the Family Court, where the Judge said a mother needs to know where her children are overnight, so give the address! As simple as that. If my ex refused to tell me where he was taking the children on holiday, I wouldn't let them go.

It has to be in the interests of the DCs for you to know-I'm sure that legally you could. What would happen if you were rushed to hospital, need to make arrangements and can't get hold of them? Go to the citizen's advice bureau and find out.