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Issues with access/parenting- so upset :(

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TheDetective · 15/03/2011 11:05

Background - I have a 9 year old DS. Split up with his father 2 years ago. I now live with my DS, and my current DF. Arrangements for access have never been set in stone, due to both working shifts (I work in the NHS and him in retail). He used to help an awful lot with before/after school. Now he sees him one night a week, sometimes not at all, sometimes two nights. Really really varies.

In the last week or so a few issues have reared their ugly heads, and I am finding it harder and harder to deal with them.

The first issue is indeed one of contact. This week I will be working 3 night shifts, thurs/fri/sat. This means for my DS, he will be staying at my mums for the duration of the nights (ex used to look after him when I was in work - but now chooses not to). So I will drop him at school thurs morning, and not see him til sunday tea time. I text his dad yesterday asking what the arrangements for this week are, and told him my shifts. His reply was - 'I'm having him wednesday night'. I pointed out to him again that I was working 3 nights, and it would be very helpful if he could have him one of those nights, but would rather not weds due to 4 nights out of his own bed/disruption/not seeing him etc etc. Lets just say it ended in an argument via text. Is it unreasonable to ask him to have him a different night of the week? His work shifts mean that he works 2 evenings a week, so obviously can't have him those nights. But there are 5 other nights/days in the week where he could. I wish we could have a set day/night, but that would never work for ex dp mostly. And I don't think I'd like it either.

Second issue is parenting styles. I don't for one minute think my ex is a bad parent, or a bad person for that matter. But in my opinion - he has no common sense, and comes from a totally different background to me.

My DS got a mobile for his birthday last week - my intention was purely for him to be in contact with his dad and me when he isn't with us. His dad has given his number to various members of his family. My DS was texting away last night, and when I asked who to, he said his cousin (9). I checked the phone before he went to bed, and found that his cousin had text him 'shut up smelly arse'. My son had text him back 'No, you're the smelly fat ass'. I was really shocked and disappointed. I've never heard my son say something like that, obviously I know he knows the words, but I thought he knew better than to repeat them. When questioned, my son said his dad said he can say ass and crap, because they are 'ok'. Obviously I asked his dad was this true, and he said yes, there isn't anything wrong in him saying them. I asked him not to encourage that kind of behaviour, and not to treat him like a mini adult, he's just a child, he will grow up fast enough without encouraging bad behaviour. His response was 'no, I'm treating him with respect'.

I don't like his style of parenting one bit. I hate the way he treats DS, I don't feel like he is well cared for when he is with him. I know he is loved, and his basic needs are met... but little things like not giving him time to shower/bathe, not brushing his hair (its quite long for a boy). Putting him in clothes that are too small, or dirty, or creased up. Not major things, but all of which just make me upset that the extra things aren't being met.

All I want is the best for my son, and he seems to regard bringing him up to be polite and respectful as some kind of stupid idea.

I know its long, but I would appreciate advice, and being able to talk it through. I know I can be unreasonable sometimes, I do have high expectations, but I'm struggling to feel like my son is my son these days if you know what I mean. Doesn't help when your son tells you he wants to go and live with his dad.... arghhhhh. Always the bad parent it seems. His Dad just gets all the good bits of being a parent!!!!

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Niceguy2 · 15/03/2011 12:30

OK, as I see it, there are two main issues here.

Parenting styles and contact.

Now for parenting styles, I'm not saying you are wrong. Heaven knows my ex used to drive me mad with the lack of care she showed my kids. But firstly I bet your ex could rattle off things he dislikes with the way you parent. And secondly you have to understand that as long as DS is safe and his basic needs are met, then the rest is down to your ex to deal with. He needs to be left to learn and make his own mistakes....just like you are. Your high expectations are fine but they are not his. Does that make sense?

To be honest, the phone thing is a bit of a side show and not really worth bothering over. There are bigger battles to fight than your 9 year old son calling his cousin a smelly arse. I'm sure his language is probably stronger in the playground!

As for contact I always say that a fixed schedule is the way to go. I see a lot of couples who try a "flexible" routine and its usually only flexible for one person....the NRP.

What your ex needs to understand is that if he wants to be a "dad" then he needs to take the rough with the smooth. So on his days, he suddenly has a shift to do, then its HIS responsibility to sort out childcare. Just like if you had to work late on your day, he'd expect you to sort it out. Good luck with that....its not an easy lesson for an ex to learn, especially if you've let him cherry pick his days for 2 years. He will just think you are being arsey. But its deffo something I'd work on getting him to understand.

cestlavielife · 15/03/2011 14:20

he si nine - my eight soon to be nine year old daughter says fart willy poo bum etc all the time - her friends do too. texting each other smelly arse is fairly mild. just let it go. he didnt say it to you did he? or to older person/adult?

some down on him ahrd if he tells his teacher/you/your mother "smelly arse" - but kids banter. it is fine.

contact - well you have had flexible arangemetns all along so to suddenly complain about one night might seem as a bit much. ok so you wont see ds for four nights - but this is just one week right?

yes it would have been nice of him to take this into account - but he didnt - the more you wind him up over it i guess the more angry you both get...

the way round it is to agree set nights then if it falls on shift duty the parent with care organizes child care.

if the more flexible approach works better for both you overall then you have to accept some weeks you will end up with that four night thing. you and DS will survive - o presume you can make contact during those days via phone/skype? and it will be all the better when you off shift again

lookingfoxy · 15/03/2011 15:05

Do you live with your fiance? Just wondering why your ds is not staying with him at 'home' when you are at work?

With regards to your ex, I would tell him that night doesn't suit, end of.

TheDetective · 15/03/2011 22:43

Some interesting points taken on board, so thank you for the replies. Please keep them coming, I value the advice.

lookingfoxy To try and explain the arrangements... Ok, me and DF have been living together for 11 months. He doesn't drive, and can't afford to for a few more years yet.

School is 11 miles away - no easy way of getting there unless by car.

The reason he goes to school so far away is that my mum is the headteacher. It made life and childcare arrangements easier and cheaper. It has been this way for 3 years now. Prior to that I was struggling with my ex dp (when we were together) to find someone to care for him in the evenings when we were both at work.

Now I am no longer alone, I could move my son to a nearer school, cut out the need for him to stay at my mums overnight. But it still leaves me with the evening childcare issue (DF works evenings too). Plus it uproots my son from his school and friends. He is so happy where he is.

It also puts a massive burden on my DF which I do not want to make. And what if the relationship breaks down? That really would leave me with big problems. DS couldn't go back to staying at my mums, as she couldn't bring him back here for school every day. And she would refuse to as well - don't blame her.

I wish life were simpler sigh

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Niceguy2 · 15/03/2011 22:55

OP. I was a single parent for quite some time. I've also been a step parent (and are now again).

So forgive me for being blunt but if you think that DF looking after your son on a regular basis is a massive burden and "...what if the relationship breaks down?" then perhaps you should rethink getting married.

Because I tell you something. Life is harder in a stepfamily than as a single parent.

cestlavielife · 15/03/2011 22:56

presumably hewill have to move schools anyway for secondary so you can rethink then? if your mum happy to have him i would keep this up time with granparent is v valuable

TheDetective · 16/03/2011 00:08

Niceguy2 Not the looking after him on a regular basis - but the changing schools. That puts an emotional burden on him that I am not happy to make. Point being, I don't want to move my sons school regardless. DF isn't in the equation for that reason.

He is young - 20, and I am 26. He does look after my son regularly, I think nothing of leaving DS/DF together if I am working a weekend, and he happens to be off. There is no issue on DF taking responsibility, he is more than willing.

But ultimately DS is mine, and ex's responsibility. So any choices I make are based on that alone.

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TheDetective · 16/03/2011 00:12

cestlavielife Yes, in 2 years he will be moving schools. I'm still struggling with that one - I'm not sure where he will be going - to a local school (arghhhh evening childcare issues again!!) or to one of the feeder schools for his primary. I'm at a loss as to what to do - at 11 he can't be left alone til maybe 7pm some nights (or 10pm if I was alone). And childminders don't seem to take older children here.

Oh god, I don't want to think about all that yet!! Headache!!

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