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CSA may start to charge single parents for their "service"

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CubaCat · 09/01/2011 21:28

I saw this article in the paper at my parents house today and quite frankly, am disgusted. How the CSA can expect us to pay for their shoddy service is beyond me. Not only that, but the Govt are being spectacularly naive if they think that this will stop couples splitting up, which according to this article, is their aim. People will still split up, but all this will do is allow non resident parents to get away even more with not paying maintenance because their ex may not be able to afford the CSA's fee, especially as they'll already have to deal with the costs associated with splitting up and becoming a single parent, such as moving house, dividing finances, hiring a lawyer etc.

If they start to charge us I for one will have to withdraw my claim, as it won't be worth my while paying the CSA just for them to administrate the measly £6.25 per fortnight that I get from my twat of an ex. It took three years for the CSA to get that out of him, even though I gave them his address at the time, his full name, d.o.b, employer details, his bank details, mothers address, where and when he played his sport and even sent them a photo of him when they requested one. I rang them fortnightly (at my own cost, to their expensive "helpline"), wrote to my MP three times to complain about the CSA and see if she could hurry them up, and kept the pressure on them so my DS would get the maintenance he's entitled to. In short, I more or less did their job for them - they should pay me. There's no way on God's earth I'll be paying for that "service".

I just hope this dickwad of an idea doesn't become reality.

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BerryLellow · 14/01/2011 17:49

You've made a bit of an assumption there. She wasn't his ex, they went out once or twice and he didn't see her again. Fast forward 5 years and he gets a call out of the blue from the good old CSA telling him he is the father of a child and could he start paying for it.

Had we been contacted privately I can assure you I wouldn't be trying to waste taxpayers money. Given that we are only now in physical contact because DP happened to bump into the mother (we weren't allowed contact details), we HAD to pay through CSA.

I hope that clears the confusion.

AngryLisa · 14/01/2011 17:51

Unfortunately there is no clarity over whether the application fee has to be paid again if you move onto to a payment direct from your ex, then he messes around and you have to go back to them to get the payments sorted out.

What the proposals also fail to take account of is that maintenance levels are pegged as a percentage of the absent parent's earnings. I cannot see any situation where my ex is going to be happy to disclose his wage slip to me on an annual basis so I can see if he's had a payrise.

Interestingly on the CMEC website (who runs the CSA) they have a corporate strategy paper which talks about simplfying the information required to calculate a case and that it will be pegged on previous year's earnings. This sounds like the way they do tax credts which means they can effectively get the information from the HMRC which might make it easier if the ex is playing silly buggars with wage slips like mine has.

Appallingly the CSA has NOTHING on their website about this. Talk about try and sneak this through the back door.

I'm also very upset that the press seem to be focusing on the few hundred quid application fee and not the percentages that will be applied and taken from the parents.

Please do support us on facebook - just type 'Campaign against Tory child maintenance proposals' in the search engine and you'll find us. No response from the newspapers I've written to yet but one of the campaign supporters got an email from a green assembly member to say they supported the cause.

BerryLellow · 14/01/2011 17:51

Blondie there is a calulator online you can use, but obviously only if you have some idea of his circumstances.

evolucy7 · 14/01/2011 17:52

Cubacat - I couldnt' agree more, and I am sorry that there seem to be so many of us with this experience.
lol @ might not be able to trust yourself not to twat him! Takes a lot self control sometimes.

CubaCat · 14/01/2011 18:09

Believe me, evolucy7, there is a queue of people who'd like to twat him, and I'm at the front of it (although in reality I wouldn't, because I always think that being dignified is the way to handle dickwad exes).

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blondie11 · 15/01/2011 16:08

Thanks BerryLellow i will have a look at that, i do know more or less what he earns, Don't suppose they take both his and his partners income into account do they, not after all their money just i bit more,

BerryLellow · 16/01/2011 08:01

No it will be just his. And can be taken directly from his wages by his employer I believe.

I think we just about have our private agreement sorted. Weirdly the CSA are suggesting we pay her less than they take from us, does anyone know why that would be? Confused I don't like that idea.

blondie11 · 16/01/2011 16:55

seems a bit unfair that he can have a double income, thanks to his partner having a good job, that they only take account of his wage, not his household income,if i moved a bloke in (ha ha) i bet they would take money off me quick smart !! Why it it always the parent with the kids that suffers financially, really fuks me off when he rings me to sort out having them over and i get the 'make sure you tell the kids i'm not doing owt with them this weekend cos i'm skint' Why not do what i do and spend it on the kids and not on nights out !!!!

goingroundthebend4 · 16/01/2011 17:04

Hmm my ex of older two dc I gave them adresses work place everything and have they chased him nope.He has two more dc now oh and he is working F/t

younger two dads well he pays minmal as we split he deicded life on incapcity suited him (but that's a whole other post)

he pays £6 a week in total .Has brought two cars since then and his new Gf expecting a baby

like the Csa done anything I did their job for them but they failed to follow up

sand12 · 17/09/2011 12:49

Hi

How do you get the CSA to put a variation order on your ex as he keeps holding back his commission which more than doubles his salary! every 3 months he contacts CSA and tells them change of circumstance holds back his commission for 3 months then gets a healthy 4th month!

chubbasmum · 17/09/2011 20:56

this is a joke right ???????? through all my years dealing with the CSA i did most of the work for them and they still f.....ed it up, it was only when i went to my MP for help i started getting some money. i dont think they deserve a penny from us if they did a great job i would have been the first one to say lets pay

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