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Birth certificates..Does any one know??

14 replies

Loobie · 01/10/2005 18:59

After yet another row with ex p he is now saying he's going to take me to court to have his name on the kids birth certificates,can he do this i always thought that after a year birth certificates cant be altered?
We were never married and have 3 kids his name is not on any of their birth certificates,he couldnt get time off with me to do no.1 so i wasnt making no.2 and 3 any different in case anyone wonders why he aint on them LOL

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starlover · 01/10/2005 19:09

hmm i am pretty sure he can't just turn up and demand his name goes on it! not without your permission anyway.

Tommy · 01/10/2005 19:13

I guess if his name is not on them, there's no proof that he is their Dad - unless you tell them

spacecadet · 01/10/2005 19:16

no a birth certificate cant be altered, even if you named a man who subsequently didnt turn out to be the father, his name would remain on the certificate!, so if your dc's dad isnt on the certificate, he cant be added.

Surfermum · 01/10/2005 19:23

Sorry spacecadet I'm going to contradict you . I think it is possible. Dh's x didn't put him on his dd's birth certificate, and they weren't married. When she was 5 or 6 she wanted to have him put on, and there was a form for them both to sign to get it altered.

aloha · 01/10/2005 19:24

if he gets a cert of parental responsibility he canget his name added to the birth cert. birth certs can be changed.
Why don't youwant his name on there?

tammybear · 01/10/2005 19:43

tbh it doesnt matter if his name is on there or not. it doesnt give him any more "rights" if it is or isnt, if he doesnt have parental responsibility, and even that doesnt give him "rights" as such

tegan · 01/10/2005 19:47

The only way you're ex will get his kids to have his name is to get a paternity test to prove he is the father and then they would need to be changed by de-poll but you have to agree to all of this or he hasn't a leg to stand on

staceym11 · 01/10/2005 20:03

sorry to be the bearer of bad news but the details cannot be changed on a birth certificate but a fathers name can be added if there isnt one.

but i think they have to have your permission and signature so shouldnt be a problem in preventing it!

triceratops · 01/10/2005 20:09

I don't think that I would personally want an empty space on my own birth certificate where the fathers name should be. Even if the father is not a very nice person or a good dad.

But you know your situation best and can decide what is best for your kids. It does not give him any rights over the children anyway.

Loobie · 01/10/2005 20:23

So mixed idea then!! Its not that i dont want it on its just something new for him to demand and cause upset about,the 3 kids now he is there father and i have never denied this to him them or anyone else,its just something else he wants to come along demanding to cause upset.
He has no pr cause we are not married and even if his name was on the bc he still wouldnt have i know that much,he just goes all out to cause as much stress and upset for me as possible.He has had no contact with them since early june due to many things,we have been over the last week talking and trying to reassess this and get visits going again but he has been told to be extremely stable in it as my eldest son has severe autism and he has been pissing the kids about something terrible,low and behold im supposed to call tonight to finalise the last of it,phoned at 5 his new gf says he's not in will be in an hour,phone back 70 mins later and get a babysitter who tells me he aint in and neither is the gf,shes away out with him.He cant call me as i had to have all house and mobile numbers changed after his gf posted them on a perve site on the internet!!!so i left a message with the babysitter to tell him i called and wont be calling back!!!
Cant he just realise that he can only take the piss for so long!!I already started telling the kids they are gonna start seing him again and getting them built up to accept him coming back into their lives and he f*s them about again arggghhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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triceratops · 01/10/2005 20:44

He sounds a real piece of work.

Loobie · 01/10/2005 20:55

The thing is too i dont need to let him back in but feel i should all school reports and doctors reports and physchologist reports,as well as everyday life say all 3 are better without him in their lives,but i just cant get it out my head that i should be doing everything to getr them together though it dont seem to matter cause all he wants is it all his way regardless of what effects it has on the kids!!

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aloha · 01/10/2005 22:00

It's a fact that birth certificates can be changed and added to (really, they can) and if your ex got PR he could add his name. But that alone wouldn't affect anything in your lives, and frankly he sounds quite mad and I'm not surprised you'd rather have nothting to do with him. I really doubt that this unstable man would have the commitment to go through the process to get a change made. It seems he can't even be bothered to see his own children

Lel1972 · 01/10/2005 22:13

Hi Loobie,

hopefully I'll get this right as I'm a Registrar! for unmarried parents, if you both attend to register baby together, dad's name will appear on the certificate. if mum goes alone and dad's details are left blank, they can be added by re-registration at any time - this means you have to get a form from your local register office (one for each child), sign it to declare that you both agree he is the natural father, and then they will give you an appointment where you both go in to reregister the children - this needs you too, so he can't do it alone. (if you want a new certificate, get it at this time, as because it will be a 'new' entry it will only cost 3.50 and not 7 pounds (can't find the pound sign on this stupid machine!))

however - he can go to a solicitor for advice and take it through the courts to get parental responsibility. we have one at the moment where dad has written in to say that he can prove he's the dad as they've had a DNA test done, but it's still all in the hands of the court, and it doesn't necessarily mean that his name will eventually be on the birth certifciate, but he may get a document from the court to prove he is the natural parent and that he has parental responsibility.

so if you DO want his name added for all 3, you just need to get in touch with the local register office for the relevant forms. for any children born before 1 December 2003, being on the birth cert doesn't give him any additional rights, he would still need to go to court to obtain equal parental rights. After 1 December 2003, if he signed the register then he has equal parental rights with you, exactly as if he was married to you at the time of birth.

Phew! hope that makes sense - let me know if you need anything clarifying!

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