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Am I expecting too much?

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pollyh · 17/10/2010 20:26

Having split from my husband about eight months ago, life has moved on and I find myself in quite a good place. I have a nine month old, a two year old and a three year old. I'm trying so hard to build a new relationship with my ex so that we can co-parent the children and he can be involved in the children's lives (eg. I've invited him out for the day on my oldest sons birthday next week so he doesn't miss out). He's adamant he wants to be involved. We manage to get on really well in front of the children which is great. In the eight months since he left I have on four occasions asked for him to step in and look after the children as I'd had last minute baby sitting problems. On all four occasions he said no he had plans. The last time it happened I pulled him up on it and tried to point out that I had too had plans, but again I was having to cancel as he refused too. I stay in with the children night after night after night, whilst he's free to do whatever he wants. He just couldn't see my point that why should it always be me that cancels. Am I expecting too much?

To top it off, my nine month old and two year old both have horrible coldy coughs with temperatures, and last night I didn't get to bed until 5.50am sunday morning as the youngest was really poorly through the night, and was then up at 6.45am with the oldest, so not even an hours sleep. So through gritted teeth I phoned my ex and asked him if he could come and help with the children so I could go back to bed for a bit. His reply was the same, he had plans, no he couldn't. I'm fuming.

What I want to know is am I expecting too much? Is this normal behaviour of ex's who claim to be torn apart without their children? What would you do? I don't know if I'm being tunnel visioned and in fact what he's doing is not that bad, or is he being completely unreasonable.

Your thoughts would be appreciated.

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ChasingSquirrels · 17/10/2010 20:28

do the children (the 2 & 3yo anyway, maybe not the 9mo if bf) not stay with him overnight on a regular weekly basis so you get a break?

ChasingSquirrels · 17/10/2010 20:29

It is you that cancels because you are the resident parent, so it is up to you to sort our the childcare.
The flip side of that is you are the resident parent, so you get all the joy of that as well.

pollyh · 17/10/2010 20:39

We're working on the overnight stays, but the children aren't keen, so I'm just letting them set the pace.

Thing is with all this co-parenting thingy, it means I invite him into our lives and allow him a bigger part in their lives than they need to be honest, so it's for the ex as I feel sorry for him, but he's not giving extra in return.

Couldn't agree more about the joy. I would rather cancel a million nights out than live without them.

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Crumbsinthebed · 17/10/2010 22:31

Hi Polly
I don't believe you are being unreasonable or expecting to much ... tho I do think it's a very sad fact that some men do not contribute equally when co-parenting.
You appear to be in exactly the same position as a friend of mine was ... she went down the exact same route - co-parenting, him coming over for tea etc - and had the exact same problems, he was bereft without his kids (hmm) however could never cancel even a bog standard night out when she was let down by sitters, kids sick etc so she could go to work (she only ever asked him in emergencies).
This went on for a year or so ... until she got so sick fed up and stressed out she went down the route of solicitors and getting access down on paper ... 3 months in and things appear to be working well, she does shoulder the majority of responsibility for the kids but she now knows when she has some free time and if he has problems with having them her reply ... I've got plans it's ur problem ur day (grin)
Good luck it's not right and it's not fair ... but us mothers generally have to just get on with it, that's why we can multi task and become expert jugglers ;)

hairytriangle · 18/10/2010 08:38

You say "invite him into our lives" . He's their DAD so already there!!!

Snorbs · 18/10/2010 09:30

Childcare while the children are with you is your responsibility. There's nothing stopping you asking your ex of course, but I think you're on a hiding to nothing expecting him to step in at the last minute to pull you out a hole.

I also think you're being a bit disingenuous in implying that he should be jumping at the chance of any contact with the children. If you really thought that such nights were about contact you would offer him first-refusal for "babysitting" (for want of a better term) duties on the nights you want to go out. But it seems that you don't. Instead, you seem to be seeing him as a last-ditch emergency backup to your plans rather than as an important part of your children's lives. In that context I'm not that surprised he isn't bending over backwards to help you out.

Niceguy2 · 18/10/2010 09:49

Hi PollyH

I think you are kidding yourself if you think what you have right now is co-parenting. He's not even a part time dad. He's more an accessory which gets wheeled out when convenient.

Other than the kids "aren't keen", is there any reason why he cannot have them overnight. I'm sorry but your eldest is 3, not 13. Eight months is more than a long enough time to adjust them into the concept of staying at daddy's house. You two are the adults, not the kids.

Until you get into a routine where your ex actually has the kids overnight and as such takes on the responsibility then he will never really be a co-parent.

My advice is to sort out the overnights. Then once you have a set routine, stick to it. My ex & I have a fixed routine now. Years down the line, we can call each other up and swap if needed BUT the other is free to say no. It took years to get to that point and its not easy.

gillybean2 · 18/10/2010 10:59

I'm afraid that yes you are (expecting too much). And perhaps your expectations of him wanting to stay involved don't match the realities of what this means to him. Have you asked him what he means when he says that and listened to what he says?

Basically as a single parent you simply have to get on with it. When it's your time you have to be responsible 100% for your children and you can't hope or rely on others or expect them to help you out (even if they are the father of the children concerned). And this is regardless of how little sleep you've had, how ill you are, or whether you are physically and emotionally capable to do so. Because there is only you.

You are no longer a couple who shares your life and helps each other or makes sacrifices for the other. You are now two seperate and single parents. When it is his time he has responsibilty for the dc, when it is your time they are your responsibilty.

I think that is reflected in the fact you have only asked him to babysit after your other arrangements have fallen through and then expect him to jump at the last minute and cancel his own plans.

Maybe if you asked him well in advance. And maybe if you made him feel more like a carer and parent of your dc rather than just an emergency babysitter of last resort...

My sister once rang me at 7.30 at night saying could I come over and babysit as she had a works do and her husband had been delayed at work. So she basically expected me to bundle my tired ds in the car, drive half an hour to her place incuring petrol costs, babysit for free so she could go out, and then drive home with ds at some unknown point in the future depending on whethe rhe dh made it home before she did.
I was absolutely fuming at her expecting me to drop everything with absolutely no warning to help just because I was doing 'nothing' in her eyes. She didn't actually even ask if I was busy, clearly too flustered and wrapped up in her own requirements to consider what I may be doing.

Plus I know that if I ever asked that of her she'd tell me how tired she was and how she couldn't possibly bring her children to babysit my ds. In fact if she has ever babysat I have had to ferry my ds to her and back.
So her evening out was clearly more important than any thought for me or my ds. And that fact she would never ever do that for me just was too much I'm afraid.

Fortunately I was down the garden bringing in washing so didn't hear the phone ring when she called. But I was even more shocked to find out that she had rung my parents to say could they walk round and tell me she needed a babysitter and could I leave now. And because I wasn't answering the phone my mum offered to go babysit instead.
So on some level I can understand why your ex may not have been jumping to your request when you called, especially is he had other plans already.

And my ds is 11 now. I don't have an ex to give me a break ever as ds's father decided he wasn't ready to be a dad yet before he was born and has had no involvement at all.

The only time I ever get a break is the rare weekend when ds was at cub camp for a couple of days, or when he's been on a school trip (once). Oh and the two times he has been away in the school holidays when I have worked till gone 8pm each night in order to reduce my childcare costs and have more time with him when he is back. So hardly a break then either. Very occassionally he may go overnight to a friend. And I can't afford a babysitter (or a night out I might add).

And my own family, pah. No help there either. I find it so much easier now I have stopped waiting, asking, hoping, they will offer some/any kind of help.

You will probably find the same relief too if you stop hoping and expecting him to help you out and simply accept this is how it is.

I'm not saying it's fair, or right, or easy. But it is the reality of being a single parent I'm afraid.

The sooner you get overnights with your ex sorted out the sooner you'll get some well earned rest and a break. Oh and perhaps go to him as your first port of call with plenty of notice to 'babysit' rather than last minute may help. Treat him as a co-parent, not a babysitter. If he says no then you have time to find an alternative, and if he says yes then that's a binus for the dc and for you.

Hope you're feeling better now and got some sleep and the dc are better too. It really isn't easy but becomes easier when you stop relying on other people and just rely on yourself. It's taken me a long time to get to this point though, and I'm so much happier for it. Hope you work things out for the dc soon.
Best wishes

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