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Could really do with some advice, not really sure where to go from here

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LucyDeSpiderman · 17/09/2010 12:35

This may be a bit of a ramble, but I'll try and give the full picture.
Ex-P and I split up around 4 months ago. Since then he's not stuck to any of the arrangements we made regarding access to the children, or money he's supposed to give me.
Our first agreement was that he would have both of the children overnight once a week, either a Friday or Saturday night. We have a 2 year old and an 8 month old. He's had them both overnight approximately 2 times. More than once he's been and picked them both up, or I've taken them to him only for him to bring the baby home a few hours later. His excuses have ranged from she's crying and he doesn't know what to do, to he needs to take our 2 year old to get his hair cut the next day and he can't take the baby with him. Once he bought her back to me at 3am, dropped her off at my friends house where I was. I've had a completely shitty couple of weeks, my Grandad, who I was extremely close to, died last Tuesday while on holiday. I've had the worst 2 weeks of my life, trying to cope with that and tonight I had plans with friends to try and take my mind of it, and just to vent for a while, but he has once again let me down and is now saying he can't have the children for me because he has to meet his football team manager in the pub to discuss fines Hmm.
Our second agreement was about money. We said he'd give me £20 a week, not a huge amount but he doesn't earn much and £20 would cover nappies/milk for the baby and a couple of things for our son. He's given me this £20 once, in the four months we have been apart. He always has an excuse. I'm living off benefits now, and while I do get enough to get by that £20 would be a huge help, but instead he chooses to go out drinking every weekend, which is where his money goes.
He also owes me money, he's put holes in 3 of the doors in the house through punching them, and one wall. I paid for 2 new doors because the landlord was coming to inspect the house, and he said he'd give me the money back. I have, of course, not had this money, and he has since put a hole in one of the new doors. I also lent him some money when we first split up and he's not given it back. I should probably add we're only young, I'm 20 and he's 23. Please save me the lectures about doing things too young, I know, but the kids are here now and of course I wouldn't change them for the world.
We had also run up some rent arrears from a few months ago when ex-p was off sick from work. When we split up he said he would take some money down to the estate agents each week to pay off the arrears. He's not paid a penny, he says because he knows once the arrears are paid off I will move away with the kids. I do want to move out of this house, but not miles away, and definitely not so far away that he wouldn't be able to see them. So I am now trying to save as much money as possible each week to pay off the arrears so we don't get kicked out of our home.
I've had to call the police out to the house when he's turned up drunk, and started shouting at me and threatening to take my son away with him. It's a huge mess, and I don't know what to do anymore. I can't keep letting him mess the children around, my son is getting to the age now where he gets excited about seeing Daddy, only to be let down.
I was wondering if anybody had been in this sort of situation before, and where I should go next. I think I need to start going down legal routes regarding access, would you agree? I really have no idea what to do.
My grandad's funeral is next wednesday, and I am terrified my ex will let me down and not have the kids, and I wont be able to say godbye to my lovely Grandad.
Sorry if that was all a bit confusing, if you want to know anything else please ask, and be completely honest with me. Thankyou.

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Supercherry · 17/09/2010 13:14

Oh sweetheart :( No, you're not alone, honestly, I have very similar issues with my XP as do most of the lone parents on this board. Not that that's any consolation I realise.

Didn't want to leave your post unanswered but I don't have enough time right now to reply properly. I'll be back later.

readywithwellies · 17/09/2010 13:16

Ok, get an appointment with a local solicitor, yellow pages will have them, look for family matters. As you are on benefits it will be free. It sounds like you need legal advice. The solicitor will probably arrange mediation for you whereby things can be discussed. This will also be free (I think) if you are on benefits.

Personally in the mean time I think you should offer him to have the dcs for two hours max at a time with the idea to increase it when he proves himself.

Good luck

quiddity · 17/09/2010 13:19

So sorry to hear about your Grandad and all the other troubles you've been having.
I hate to say this but it really doesn't sound as if you can count on your ex to keep your dcs while you're at the funeral. Can you take them with you? Are thee any family members who will be there who could help you?
You don't mention other family--do you get much support from them generally? You need to call on anyone you can, coping with two small children on your own is hard.
Also, yes, you definitely need to get legal advice on what you're entitled to, not only re access but also financially. It's not just a matter of your ex deciding what he feels like giving you--or not. You don't just have to accept what he says and does, even though he's violent and abusive.
I don't know much about these things, hopefully someone more knowledgeable will come along here to help. But you can call CAB, and I know you can get a free half-hour session with a solicitor which should be enough to give you a clearer idea of what you need to do.
If I were you I'd post on the relationships thread, where there are lots of people who have been through this and can offer practical help. You sound strong and sensible but you need and deserve a helping hand.

booyhoo · 17/09/2010 13:21

no-one's going tolecture you on here about being too young, there are lots of us young mums here so you aren't alone.

ok, well first off, i think you should forget about any money he owes you, you wont ever get that so write if off. contact CSA about child maintenance. he is obligated to pay for the support of his children. and see if you can get a free session with a solicitor about contact. you need to set something up so it is a legal agreement that he has them on say a saturday night and he has to stick to it. if he is letting them down all he time do you think he would kick up a fuss if you told him they weren't going anymore until he agreed to a commited regular arrangement? you might also be entitle dto legal aid if you are on benefits.

sorry you are going through this. i have been there too.

LucyDeSpiderman · 17/09/2010 15:08

Sorry it's taken so long to get back.

Supercherry - thankyou for replying, sorry you're going through similar things, it's wrong that anybody has to go through this!

readywithwellies - I didn't know it would be free to see a soliciter, I was worried about costs of 'going legal', I'll have a talk to my Mum later and ask her to help me look for a solicitor and I'll make an appointment, I know that's what I need to do, I just never wanted to do it. I desperately wanted things to stay civil between ex-p and myself, for the childrens' sake, but he's not going to change is he? I think it's a good idea to tell him when he can have them and how long for until I have spoken to somebody. Then if he doesn't stick to it, atleast I know I've givin him the opportunity.

quiddity - I really don't want to take the children to the funeral. I want to take the time to say goodbye to my Grandad, not having to worry about crying/fidgiting children. I will have family there who I'm sure would be happy to help, but I'd feel so much more comfortable if I could go minus the children. If it comes to it I can ask my friend to look after them for the couple of hours I'm away.
I do get support from my family, my Dad is just down the road and my Mum is half an hour away but there's only so much they can do, and I don't like asking them to have the children for me too much because I feel like they're my children and I should look after them. Plus, my daughter (8months) is quite attatched to me still, she doesn't particularly like being with anybody else and I know whenever other people look after her she is generally quite whingy and hard to settle and I feel bad for putting that on people. My Mum is always happy to have them for me though. I will definitely look into getting some legal advice, I know that's what I need to do. I was thinking CAB myself, but a free half an hour with a soliciter sounds like the best way forward.

booyhoo - it's good to know I wont be judged. I feel like such a failure, I have these 2 beautiful children and I feel like I've let them down so much, it really hurts. I've struggled with PND since dd was born and although I'm on anti-d's, what with my ex being difficult and my Grandad being ill then dieing, it seems to have come back with a vengence.
I agree that I need to forget about the money he owes me, it just makes me so angry to know that I lent him that money to help him out, even after how awfully he treated me when we were together, and he obviously has no intention of paying it back.
Again, I will most certaintly be getting some legal advice, it's the only way forward from here and I realise that now. I do think he'd kick up a fuss if I said he couldn't have them until we'd sorted a legal arrangement. He shouldn't, because he doesn't have them even when he's said himself that he will, but I know he'd have a paddy about it.
Sorry you've been through it too.

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Tippychoocks · 17/09/2010 15:12

You will never see the money you lent him.

For the arrears and the damage he caused then he is liable, use your free solicitor's advice and/or CAB. They can also help you with the CSA and contact.

He sounds like a solid gold twat and you shouldn't worry about having had children too young, be relieved you haven't wasted any more of your life on this eejit.

Things will get better.

Lemonylemon · 17/09/2010 15:59

You need to contact:

CAB; Women's Aid; Solicitor. Oh, and maybe Sure Start just for some support. Also, CRUSE Bereavement Counselling - it's terribly hard when someone you're close to dies.

Get as much information as you can about what you're entitled to etc.

Nothing wrong with being a young Mum - although I'm an old one. You'll be fine. Keep shouting out on here - there will be people along who know much more about this sort of situation than me. But just wanted to give you some encouragement.

LucyDeSpiderman · 17/09/2010 16:29

Solid gold twat. I like that. Sums him up brilliantly. I am relieved that I'm not with him anymore and don't have to waste any more of my life with him.
Thankyou both for replying, it means a lot to have people encouraging me!

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Supercherry · 18/09/2010 08:40

Echoing what everyone else has said really. At some point over the weekend write a 'To do' list and get yourself organised.

  1. Call CSA
  2. Go on yell.com and search solicitors in your area- not all take on legal aid so you'll have to find one that does.

I would let your XP know that from now on all contact will be via a solicitor and that he is not to contact you directly. Maybe give him an email address if he wants to nake arrangements to see the boys- thats if you think there is any chance of him not letting them down?

I would prepare yourself for things to escalate in terms of his abusive behaviour- that's exactly what happened with my XP. Call the police and report each incident.

It is really important for your emotional well being that you get some help with the children. Mine are 2.5yrs and 10mths so I know how hard it is doing it on your own.

I also aim to get out every day, usually the park. The fresh air does us all good and we eat lunch over there meaning less housework!

Keep coming on here to let us know how you are.

Have a nice weekend :)

Fontella · 18/09/2010 09:05

Hey Lucy

Sorry to hear your story. As others have already said - your ex does sound like a solid gold twat.

The CSA will sort him out as regards paying you something towards the children. Also, get in touch with your local council/housing association and if you haven't already done so - get your name down on their housing register.

The CAB are brilliant - to start with them is a good way to go, as they will put you in touch with other organisations who will help you.

As regards your ex - if it were me I would put a stop to the current arrangements with him regarding seeing the children. He is clearly unreliable and it is doing the children no good at all. Just tell him that - 'what is the point of making arrangements that you never stick to?' and then get a formal legal arrangement in place.

It might not seem like it but you have all the cards stacked in your favour and there is help out there. Stay strong, get yourself organised and it will all turn out for the better in the long run, it's just a case of getting through the current difficulties.

Snorbs · 18/09/2010 10:11

Lucy, it's not your fault your ex is a wanker. It's unfortunate for you and your DCs that he's a wanker but that's not something you can change.

What you can do is reduce the effects of his wankiness on you and your DCs.

I don't often say this, not least because I'm a dad myself, but I'd seriously think about stopping contact.

And I agree that you should just write off any money that you have loaned to him. Yes, I know it's annoying and downright unfair but, frankly, by dwelling on it all you're doing is giving him control.

And, absolutely, do not let him in your home ever and be ready to phone the police instantly if/when he kicks off. Try not to get involved in any arguments with him, either.

I know it's hard to change this kind of thing but the less you talk to him and the less control you unwittingly give him over your life, the better you will feel. I promise.

lilac21 · 18/09/2010 10:14

Lucy, I don't have anything to add except that you have my sympathy and I hope things start to seem better soon. You've been given lots of good advice here.

justonemorethen · 18/09/2010 11:53

Add my sympathy to the pot.
One thing I would say is that nursery at this age is an excellent way of getting some adult time even if it means going to work. If you can go self employed maybe taking in ironing or delivering stuff it's even better as working tax credits can pay you the over 16 hours rate.They will pick up 80% of the fees and if a nursery charges by the session rather than the hour,you may get an odd bit of time to yourself, plus the benefit of having your own money,

It may seem heartless putting an 8 month into nursery but if you are on your own it's a relentless job. Schools fine but very limiting in terms of hours if you want to work whereas nursery's are open from 8 till 6.

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