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Dundonians, Fifers, Angusoids and Perthites - Over here!

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PinkPussyCat · 10/09/2008 15:45

Welcome to the crisp shiny new thread! The old one was getting a wee bit stoorie and dog-eared.

Have done my best to list all those from the previous thread, though some may have namechanged since then... hope I've included everyone - apologies to anyone missed.

Klaw
Perigrine
mrspitt
FromGirders
clayre
fish45
ILiveinhope
dingdong05
LittleWee Pickle
jamtastic
littlepinkpixie
minipinkscottish
dizzydixies
PinkPussyCat
louii
Jennyfromthe Block
poppysocks
babyboos
kofiwan
Tigz1985
Newmum1977
asur
kam29

OP posts:
Klaw · 10/01/2009 20:15

Hi!

Jenny, have you been given good CORRECT info about the fasting required for a gtt?

There's a great site about GD

I was at a fab waterbirth of a 36wk girl at the best maternity unit in the land last night. And still waiting for another.....

Beaming from ear to ear!

dizzydixies · 10/01/2009 20:26

jenny sorry to hear you're having such a hard time but if it makes you feel any better at all Gestational Diabetes is very common and they handly it very well. Are you at Ninewells? If so the GD midwives are lovely, the clinic is much nicer than the usual antenatal set up and the team are really really good.

I didn't have it with DD1 and DD2 but did with DD3 and she ended up being my smallest let me know if you have any questions and I'll see if I can help

Klaw sounds wonderful with your ladies

minipink how are you doing, are you back at school again?

PPC tescos? same time next week? should we try the one on south road this time

faeriemoo · 10/01/2009 21:57

Klaw are you a doula or a midwife or something? (Or do you just go and watch women giving birth for kicks )
Which unit was that at? I had a waterbirth in Arbroath with my DD2 and can't gush enough about how fantastic it was!

minipinkscottish · 11/01/2009 06:30

not back to work till 2nd feb xx hoping for a meet up for yhis thread before then

Klaw · 11/01/2009 17:17

Faerimoo I am a doula and it was at the other Angus unit . Was there today with my Jan lady but she went off the boil again. So it should be very soon now

I'm pleased to hear you're happy with Arbroath. I'm also a lay member of the Angus Maternity Services Liaison Committee (MSLC), the lay members and mws are very proactive at improving maternity care so have to try very hard not to feel smug about the great units we have. It's not so good in other parts of the UK at all

So ladies can we pick a date? what about not this week but next? Thursday or friday best for me, in the afternoon, from 12.30pm. Or else the Saturday anytime? Hope to be at a Study day on the 17th or would have suggested then. What about the 18th, Sunday?

faeriemoo · 11/01/2009 19:39

Oh how exciting, that must be a fantastic job! I am very envious!
The midwives in Arbroath always seem to be campaigning for or working on something or other to improve services for women to birth in a natural way. I know they were so excited when funds were raised for the birth pool and are so proud of each and every woman who gives birth there, as each birth is one step closer to keeping the unit open. Is it still at threat of closure? I, for one, would be heartbroken if it closed. I spent the first 24 hours of DD1's labour in the same room I was born in before being transferred to Ninewells, and DD2 was born in the room next to where I was born. That's special, to me.
From what I've read online and heard from others, services and care at both Angus units are second to none.

dizzydixies · 11/01/2009 23:35

Fri or sunday provisionally ok at moment for my but I might have to go through and help out with Dad, am still waiting to hear

Sat no use as DD1 has dancing and a party to go to and Thurs I have to be here for school run at 3pm and swimming lesson as DH on late shift

Habbibu · 11/01/2009 23:50

Can I stick my beak in and ask you a question, Klaw? Are you involved with the Maternity Services Liaison Cttee for Tayside at all, or do you know anything about it? I emailed, but it bounced, and I wondered if it was still going.

minipinkscottish · 12/01/2009 09:31

Hi Friday would be good for me next week xx

Klaw · 12/01/2009 18:42

Habbibu, I'm on the Angus one but they haven't had a Dundee one for a while, iirc. They hope to get something going now that the CMU is open.

As lay rep for Angus MSLC I attend the Labour Ward Forum at 9wells, and I know there is an Antenatal Forum. But until now not a MSLC. I should be able to find out if there's been any progress when at next Labour Ward Forum or I could ask some of my contacts, if you wish? Would you like to volunteer? I'll pass your name on

There is a Perth MSLC AFAIK.

Habbibu · 12/01/2009 19:45

Would love to volunteer - could you email me at habbibu at gmail dot com and I could give you my details? Thanks so much - am very fond of NW, and would like to "give something back" iyswim?

Klaw · 12/01/2009 20:12

I shall email you but my emails disappear a lot so check your trash or spam box If all else fails you can find my tel no if you do some detective work via my profile

Habbibu · 12/01/2009 20:14

Thank you!

babybear77 · 13/01/2009 21:08

okay peeps....more questions...

HV suggested doing a dream feed. lo (7 weeks on thurs and 9lbs 14oz) kind of in a routine well for a couple of days anyway. has bath about 5.30-6pm feed and goes to "bed" about 6.45-7pm. then wakes at about midight (ish) th4n 4ish 6/7 10 and 1 (all "ish"). but that's only been a couple of days (yesterday was disrupted by a trip out on sunday). would be nice to push that evenig stretch of sleep forward. but i had worse on calls when i was working to be honest.

anyhoo. thinking about giving it a couple of days to see if this "routine" is sticking and then try a dream feed. do you think my bedtime routine is to early???? how do i stick my nip in without waking him i see how you could ram a bottle in....answers on a chat forum please.

which brings me to my next dilemma. introducing the odd bottle...now the dream feed is quite a good opportunity. but have been told to only do it every other night. if i don;t the wee man might refuse a bottle later on and i've had a friend (or 2) this has happened to. however, should i express say 9pm before the feed so i don;t get exploding boobs? At the moment am collecting milk (and have started doing a little expressing on my unused side - am i right to do that) while am feeding and generally get about 1oz+. Most of that is being used to give gaviscon for lo's reflux but have started to make it 1/2 milk 1/2 water. to try to save for my alternate daily bottle - she says i'll need about 6oz?????!!!That's another one we have to stop....this parenting lark is terribly confusing!

so basically....any dream feed advice/expressing advice?
might try lo with his gaviscon from a bottle tomorrow - but it's only 1oz?
that was rather long and rambling...any advice greatly appreciated as always!
bbx

minipinkscottish · 14/01/2009 10:24

Hi babybear sounds like you are doing great You've done a lot of the hard bits by getting to 7 weeks and still bf despite the difficulties you had....well done!!

Your routine sounds great and tbh only you can decide if you think it's too early or not. With my first dc I bathed and fed a bit later and then had more of a sleep during the night but that was fine with only one baby to give attention to.
With Abbie she is fed and bathed around 6ish and is generally in bed well before 7pm....this is great for me as I need to spend time with other dc's doing homework etc
However, she does get up in the nigh but like you it doesn't really bother me - I enjoy the quite times and the cuddles with noone else around
As for the dream feed... I know some people who swear by it as it ensures lo sleeps through but IMO I think you are setting up a remembered pattern that will be hard to drop
Babies are babies for such a short time and they will eventually settle down to sleeping all night especially if like you they have sensible and loving mummies who give them routine and security
My only tip for night feeding is no stimulation like bright lights or music....

Take care xxxxxx

minipinkscottish · 14/01/2009 10:32

When I was pg with my first ds almost 17 years ago my mum gave me a cutting from the paper.....there was a bit of a story to it but the best quote that I never forgotten was this.............

The time will come too quickly
when those little arms that tug,
Wont ask for you to hold them
or so freely give a hug.
The day will sneak up subtly,
Just as it did with me,
When you wont recall the last time
your child sat on your knee.
Like those sacred pre-dawn feedings,
when we cherished time alone,
Our babies grow and leave behind
those precious times we've known.

{blush]

JennyfromtheBlock · 14/01/2009 19:01

hi MPS sorry i'm not gonna be able to make it tomorrow. I'm having a really bad time just now and everything seems to be getting on top of me. I'm really not a good person to be around. I'm really sorry and hope you get this

dizzydixies · 14/01/2009 20:40

jenny are you ok? is there anything we can do to help? am not adverse to some cleaning/cooking/painting etc (even though my house is a bomb) or just a cup of tea and a chat?

you don't need to be down on your own when we can be down with you

minipinkscottish · 14/01/2009 20:44

Oh Jenny I'm so sorry you are having a bad time...did the hosp appointment not go well?

I am sorry you can't make it for coffee but if you change your mind just knock on the door I am a good listener and I know what it's like to feel low and want to hide away.....try and get out honey....and if I can help I will

Take care xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Klaw · 15/01/2009 00:45

Babybear, if he is feeding at 6pm, 12pm, 4pm, 7pm, 10pm then 1 am, all at only 7wks I would say things are great!!! A lot of women have cluster feeding from 6pm till 10pm or more and are desperate about that!

BF is quite intensive but only for a short period of your life so don't rush to get him sleeping through the night.

I'm not convinced on the dream feed idea either, I don't think it worked for me. However, the ONLY thing I ever took from GF routine was the common sense thing of darkened rooms and not talkign to baby at night, as MPS says, no stimulation at night time.

If you get him up to feed at 9 or 10 then do so in the room his cot is in, keep the lights dimmed, don't make eye contact and don't talk to him. Then perhaps you can get to bed straight after and get a few hours till the next feed. And that would be my interpretation of 'dream feed'. I also never got around to expressing enough for anyone to give my lo a bottle, neither did I want anyone else to do it actualy. This was MY job and one I was was fiercely proud of!

But be reassured that at 7wks bf through the night is still normal. Please feel free to contact me. I am no longer on call as my Jan and Feb ladies have both given birth so I have more free time now

HTH

Klaw · 15/01/2009 00:50

Jenny, I too have been through PND, and ordinary depression, so understand why you are withdrawing from us. Please do NOT feel that we wouldn't want to be with you whilst you are feeling miserable and that you would not be good company. This is EXACTLY the time when those who have an understanding of depression can be of best support to you, because we know WHY you feel you are not good company.

We are here for you. Sending you hugs and chocolate!

babybear77 · 15/01/2009 19:13

Thanks Klaw. Glad to hear your ladies have given birth. V exciting. Been reading your threads Jenny and can sympathise. Been there too - although perhaps not to the same extent. Thinking of you.
BB x

babybear77 · 17/01/2009 19:43

if he sleeps longer than the 4 hrs (ish) and would be coming up to one of his usual feed times would you wake him????
regularity is great but now feel like i'm clock watching and fretting if he goes past a time he'd usually be awake....i sneakily "helped" to wake him up at 6pm tonight because he'd usually be in the bath by then...feel v naughty. am i a bad mother ?
STRESS
BBx
p.s. thank you for your help (yet again).

Klaw · 17/01/2009 19:53

That might be down to trial and error.... ime if I tried to wake dd she'd be grumpy as hell and so wouldn't eat but then I'm thinking of her when she was a bit older than 7 weeks!

It's probably OK to wake a sleeping baby at his age if he's still sleeping past 4 hours... It's a difficult decision as often times I'd say that if he's sleeping it's cos he needs it and he'll waken when good and ready....

Sorry, I've been no help but I do think it's your decision as you know him best. But when waking a sleeping child I'd do it very gently so that they're not shocked awake iyswim?

And no, you're not a bad mum for waking him for a feed. Babies love to be fed and cuddled so I'm sure he did not mind in the slightest!!

minipinkscottish · 21/01/2009 09:15

Where is everyone?

Thought we were going to try and meet up this week?