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Moving Near Peterborough – Seeking Recommendations

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SmilingSunrise · 04/08/2024 22:26

Hi everyone,

We are currently living in London, but due to my husband's job change, he will be starting work in Peterborough soon. We are looking for a place to live within a maximum one-hour drive from Peterborough. I'm hoping to get some insights and recommendations from those familiar with the area.

Our Situation:

  • My husband is willing to commute up to an hour by car. (so public transport opportunities are not quite important)
  • Our daughter has just finished Year 1 and will be starting Year 2 next year, so we need to find a good primary school.
  • We are not planning to buy a house immediately but may consider it later. Budget is not a constraint for now.

Key Criteria:

  1. Commute Time: Within a one-hour drive to Peterborough.
  2. Primary Schools: High-quality primary schools.
  3. Safety: A safe neighborhood.
  4. Socio-cultural Environment: We value diversity and would prefer a welcoming community. (as an Albanian family)
  5. Vibrancy: While a lively area would be nice, we understand this might be less feasible. Proximity to Cambridge or Peterborough for occasional visits would be great.

Based on my research, I've shortlisted the following areas. I would love to hear your thoughts on these or any other recommendations you might have:

  1. Histon-Impington: Good primary schools, close to Cambridge, within an hour’s drive to Peterborough. Seems to meet our criteria well.
  2. Cambourne: Good primary schools, relatively close to both Cambridge and Peterborough.
  3. Ely: Slightly longer drive (sometimes over an hour), but a lovely town with good socio-cultural aspects. only concern about winter driving conditions to Peterborough?
  4. St. Ives: About half an hour from both Cambridge and Peterborough. Heard good things about the town, though primary schools aren’t top-rated.
  5. St. Neots: Some socio-cultural concerns, and perhaps less diverse, but the location seems convenient?
  6. Hampton (in Peterborough): Very close to Peterborough, good schools, new housing, and diverse. Not as popular as the others but seems to tick many boxes...

We would greatly appreciate any insights or experiences you can share about these areas or any other recommendations you might have.

Thank you in advance for your help! xx

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SmilingSunrise · 05/08/2024 21:39

SidekickSylvia · 05/08/2024 18:12

Stamford and Rutland are really lovely, but you said you'd like somewhere diverse, and there's very little diversity in Stamford/Rutland.

Many thanks for the comment. Yes, that was the problem with Stamford. Otherwise, it would definitely be on my shortlist.

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SmilingSunrise · 05/08/2024 21:53

Another2Cats · 05/08/2024 17:54

"I feel they don't really indicate KS1 success. Given that I haven't made a long-term plan yet, should their importance be somewhat secondary in my considerations? What do you think?"

You are quite right. However, your DD will be moving on to KS2 a year from now when she starts in Year 3 (I presume in the OP you meant she is starting Year 2 this September).

If you are only planning on staying wherever you move to for 6 months or a year then it doesn't really matter which school she goes to. But if you're planning on staying in one place for two or three years at least then the KS2 results do become relevant.

"Which do you think is more important, these percentages or the progress results?"

It's a bit of both. This is going to be another long post with lots of numbers in it. The links to all the information are given at the bottom.

Things like the overall % that meet expected standard are based on two things. Firstly how academic the children are anyway and, secondly, how good the teaching is.

You could have one school with a lot of high achievers but the teaching is just average and they will still outperform another school which only has a small number of high achievers but very good teaching.

This is the case with Hampton Hargate and Hampton Vale.

When pupils start Year 3 they are classified as either Low, Medium or High Attainers based on their KS1 results.

If you dig into the information available you will see that it is split up so that you can look at these groups separately.

It turns out that, in the latest results, Hargate had 41% High attainers, 42% Medium Attainers and only 17% Low Attainers.

In contrast, it was reversed at Vale. They only had 18% High Attainers, 49% Medium Attainers and 33% Low Attainers.

Overall, Hargate did have a higher % of pupils meeting the expected standard but this was only because they had a lot more High Attainers than Vale.

If you look at the figures for each group separately then Vale outperforms Hargate

% of pupils meeting the expected standard

School Hargate Vale
High.......100%......100%
Med........76%........81%
Low.........27%........21%

So Vale did just as well among the High, did better with the Medium. The figure for Low Attainers was not as good but when you look at the Progress scores for Low Attainers it looks like they were particularly low.

So, although Vale did well with both High and Medium the overall figure came out lower because they don't have as many High attainers as Hargate does.

It's a similar matter with % of pupils achieving at a higher standard. If you break the figures down by prior attainment you get this:

% of pupils achieving at a higher standard

School Hargate Vale
High.......38%......38%
Med........0%........5%
Low.........0%........0%

So, Vale does just as well with High and also gets some of their Medium at the higher standard as well which Hargate does not.

But, since there are more High Attainers at Hargate the overall figure for the school is higher.

You can also look at things like the difference between boys and girls. At Vale it's pretty equal but at Hargate there is a big difference between the sexes where 21% of girls were at a higher standard but only 12% of the boys.

Another thing this is useful for is for looking at the type of pupils going into the school at Year 3. One of the other schools I mentioned above literally had only one pupil that was a High Attainer and the rest were split 50/50 Medium and Low.

They do a fantastic job and even get 15% of their Medium Attainers to the higher standard. They are clearly very experienced at getting Medium and Low Attainers to do well, but maybe the teachers aren't so used to teaching High Attainers

(I have no idea about this and am not implying anything negative at all about those teachers as they certainly do get impressive results).

These are the links with all the figures.

https://www.compare-school-performance.service.gov.uk/school/132763/hampton-hargate-primary-school/primary/results-by-pupil-characteristics?accordionstate=1|3

https://www.compare-school-performance.service.gov.uk/school/146753/hampton-vale-primary-academy/primary/results-by-pupil-characteristics?accordionstate=1|3

You can find the same information for all primary schools by searching here:

https://www.compare-school-performance.service.gov.uk/find-a-school-in-england

Thank you for providing such detailed and insightful information. I especially appreciate your analysis of Low Prior Attainers and Middle Prior Attainers, which I wasn't aware of before. By Low Prior Attainers, you mean students who scored low in their KS1 results, right?

I also noticed that Vale performs significantly better in the English as a Second Language (ESL) results, which supports the idea that the school may be a better fit for our needs.

Lastly, I wanted to ask your opinion on the Ofsted review, specifically regarding the percentages of children feeling happy and safe at the school. How important do you think these factors are in choosing a school? Do you consider them significant indicators of a good school environment?

Thanks a million, you're a legend! 😊

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SmilingSunrise · 05/08/2024 21:54

Octavia64 · 05/08/2024 18:01

It's a long drive from Ely to Peterborough.

I do it reasonably regularly to catch the train up to Newcastle. I wouldn't like to do it every day. Can be over an hour if you use the main roads or less if you go down along by Ramsay but they do close that sometimes.

I used to teach in Impington. It gets a lot of international families as the secondary school teaches the IB and is used to them. It's not very racially diverse but lots of non- British families.

I know a lot of people that live there and it's a good place to live. Bloody expensive to buy though.

Many thanks. The biggest challange is to find a property to let in that area. Hope to find a suitable one!

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circular1985 · 05/08/2024 21:58

Of all the places you've mentioned Histon would be my top one. It's a beautiful picture box village. Has a great village feel with lots going on. Lovely pubs and restaurants. Excellent primary and secondary (IVC, which is quite diverse). You're only a short cycle into Cambridge with access to guided bus and Cambridge north station. Also only a few minutes to the motorway. The A14 is notoriously bad for accidents, but your dh would be going against the traffic for the most part.

I also really like Ely, but schools less good and the drive to Peterborough is boring. if you get stuck behind a tractor it can take a long time to get anywhere.

Cambourne is ok, but it's a purpose built town with not much in it. It just appears amongst the flat vista.

At Ives is also lovely but check the secondary school there.

Godmanchester is a pretty village that merges into Huntingdon.

I'd give st Neots a miss. Just a bit more run down than other places.

Stamford is a good shout though.

If you can afford Histon you can probably afford some parts of Cambridge city.

TerroristToddler · 05/08/2024 22:47

I'm in a Cambridgeshire village near the areas mentioned.

I'd give Huntingdon and Peterborough itself a miss.

Socio culturally, St Ives and St Neots are much of the same. Also both towns have a bit of a crap high street shopping wise but I will say they both have lots of restaurants, cafes etc. both nice riverside areas. Sr Neots has a cinema I believe too, so maybe a bit more in walking distance for teens to do and has the bonus of its own train station with direct to Peterborough train and direct to London and south so popular with commuters- hence a lot of the new build estates you'd find all around the station area.

Ely is nice and has stuff going onbut a bit "middle of nowhere". Whereas some of the other places mentioned are central to get to Cambridge, Peterborough or go across to Bedford and MK quite quickly too.

I'd say neither St Neots, St Ives or Ely are very diverse if that's what you're after.

Camborne is a bit Truman show as its purpose built but has a good community. Cottenham is okay but I wouldn't fancy the drive to Peterborough daily. All the Cambridgeshire commute roads are pretty horrific most days (sadly speak from experience!)

Happy for you to PM if you want any more info on any areas

Squirrelsnut · 05/08/2024 22:49

HeddaGarbled · 04/08/2024 22:36

I know someone who lives in St Ives and they really like it. They use the guided bus to visit Cambridge regularly.

Me too.

greenmarsupial · 05/08/2024 22:52

I like Ely, I wouldn't recommend the drive but the train is very good if he would consider it.

It's very family friendly and has the best of being close by train to Peterborough, Cambridge and London.

Another2Cats · 06/08/2024 09:18

"By Low Prior Attainers, you mean students who scored low in their KS1 results, right?"

Yes, correct.

"...the percentages of children feeling happy and safe at the school. How important do you think these factors are in choosing a school? Do you consider them significant indicators of a good school environment?"

I haven't really gone into Ofsted reports so I'm not really the right person to comment on this.

All I would say is that if most schools cluster around a similar range (eg maybe they are all in the range 90% - 95%) then there is going to be no real difference between any of them.

But if there is one school that is very different indeed from the rest, say the other schools were all 90%-95% and this one school got 50% then, yes, that would definitely be something to think about.

By the way, I have no idea at all what the percentages are, I just gave the above figures as an example.

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